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Tue Aug 18, 2020, 08:55 PM

Just chatted with a man 50ish we were waiting on takeout order

at local Italian Restaurant. Asked me how long I thought we would have to put up with masks etc and I said at least til next summer. He shook his head and said Trump dropped the ball on this. I said well Iím not a Trump fan. He said he voted for him in 2016 but no way would he vote for him now since he completely mismanaged the pandemic.

Yes anecdotal. In a red part of Albuquerque.

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Reply Just chatted with a man 50ish we were waiting on takeout order (Original post)
ALBliberal Aug 2020 OP
CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2020 #1
EarnestPutz Aug 2020 #33
captain queeg Aug 2020 #2
calimary Aug 2020 #20
Mike 03 Aug 2020 #3
Eliot Rosewater Aug 2020 #4
Demovictory9 Aug 2020 #5
ancianita Aug 2020 #9
Decoy of Fenris Aug 2020 #12
JI7 Aug 2020 #29
Eliot Rosewater Aug 2020 #36
stillcool Aug 2020 #6
oasis Aug 2020 #7
djacq Aug 2020 #8
Maru Kitteh Aug 2020 #27
paleotn Aug 2020 #10
Cornus Aug 2020 #11
AlexSFCA Aug 2020 #13
marble falls Aug 2020 #14
Scarsdale Aug 2020 #15
Upthevibe Aug 2020 #16
mountain grammy Aug 2020 #17
ChoppinBroccoli Aug 2020 #18
Phoenix61 Aug 2020 #19
Sucha NastyWoman Aug 2020 #21
BadgerMom Aug 2020 #22
ALBliberal Aug 2020 #23
patphil Aug 2020 #24
ALBliberal Aug 2020 #25
Wounded Bear Aug 2020 #26
Sherman A1 Aug 2020 #28
North Shore Chicago Aug 2020 #30
ALBliberal Aug 2020 #31
AllaN01Bear Aug 2020 #32
ALBliberal Aug 2020 #34
Grammy23 Aug 2020 #35
ALBliberal Aug 2020 #37
dickthegrouch Aug 2020 #38
ALBliberal Aug 2020 #39
warmfeet Aug 2020 #40

Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 08:56 PM

1. Yes, anecdotal, but this is still good. The tip of the iceberg, perhaps. n/t

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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 19, 2020, 12:55 PM

33. The tip of the iceberg seems to be getting bigger every day. You never hear stories of...

.....Hillary voters expressing what a mistake they made and that they will vote for Trump this year.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 09:00 PM

2. One can hope. Haven't run into anyone who voted Hillary that says they'll vote for trump this time.

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Response to captain queeg (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:36 PM

20. There is that.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 09:03 PM

3. These first-hand anecdotes are among my favorite posts at DU.

Thank you for sharing.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 09:06 PM

4. So the attack on infants and children, torturing them, the attack on all freedom of the press,

the GOING ALONG WITH PUTIN to KILL our soldiers, which is still happening, the attack of gold star families and all POC and the stealing of billions, no problem.

But you screw up something and it affects ME personally, problem.

Glad to know he isn't voting for the TRAITOR but fuck him anyway.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #4)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 09:07 PM

5. Yep

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #4)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 09:31 PM

9. You're right. Still. They really do know all the rest. They do. It's just not takeout talk...

They're slowly being dragged into the 21st Century, some kicking and screaming, others trying to give up their old world views and decently turn toward new ones.

Their kids and grandkids are helping along these lines, too.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #4)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 09:38 PM

12. People do tend to vote when they're directly affected by something.

 

If this comes as a surprise to you, I'm more than a little shocked. This is the way of Democracy; people vote for what they perceive is their best interest, not some random issue that happens halfway across the country to people they'll never meet or even hear about again. Like it or not, 90+% of the average American population either hasn't heard of or doesn't care about whatever new outrage-de-jure Trump does, unless it directly affects them.

Thankfully (if such can be said about a pandemic that kills millions) this pandemic has touched everyone in one way, shape or form, so it's pretty likely that the idiot will get stampeded out of office on a blue wave that makes 2018 look like a kiddie pool.

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Response to Decoy of Fenris (Reply #12)

Wed Aug 19, 2020, 04:16 AM

29. So hurting black and brown people was seen to be in their best interest

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Response to JI7 (Reply #29)

Wed Aug 19, 2020, 02:29 PM

36. thanks, I wont even respond to that post myself.

NO, like you say DECENT people care about issues that DONT affect them...the DEFINITION of a liberal!

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 09:10 PM

6. always good to hear...

I hope we can find a way to provide accurate information to people for free. Information that educates. A lot of people do not know what they're voting for. It's hard enough to just stay afloat.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 09:19 PM

7. "Trump dropped the ball". K and R

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 09:30 PM

8. Lesson Learned but Trump came with a warning label.

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Response to djacq (Reply #8)

Wed Aug 19, 2020, 12:33 AM

27. I'd rather they voted with us than have the meaningless satisfaction of

beating them about the head with their mistake.




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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 09:33 PM

10. Enough anecdotals turn into a trend.

I think we've passed that point.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 09:34 PM

11. I suspect there are many who feel exactly the same way.

They recognize the mistake they made four years ago and will not be repeating it.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 09:40 PM

13. these are the best stories, the cult is chipping away

person by person. It appears trump is losing many whol voted for him in 2016 and I canít see how he gain any new votes, who would be voting for him 2020 if didnít vote for him in 2016?

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 10:02 PM

14. Seems like we Democrats have a bigger tent than the GOP.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 10:29 PM

15. Why do people say

tRump "mismanaged the pandemic"? He did NOTHING, how can anyone call THAT managed or mismanaged? We were left on our own, after he was warned for a couple of months ahead of time that it was coming. It would have interrupted his Nazi rallies, and golf games, so forget it.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 10:38 PM

16. ALBliberal......

Thank you for sharing. I think any bit of encouragement is wonderful.....

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:05 PM

17. I miss Albuquerque..hope to get back there soon

And Iíll take anecdotes any day of the week.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:06 PM

18. Anecdotal, Yes, But We ALL Have A Story Like This One

Literally everyone I talk to knows someone or has met someone who either voted for Trump or didn't vote at all who can't WAIT to vote against him this time. Think about how many people that is, and then remember that Trump lost by 3 million votes last time.

I, myself, have 2 people JUST IN MY FAMILY who didn't vote in 2016 (my mom and aunt decided they "just didn't like Hillary", but are foaming at the mouth to vote for Biden this time around. This is what I'm saying. I bet every person on this board has a story like that. Those numbers add up.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:28 PM

19. I'm in the Florida Panhandle which is as red as it gets.

I heard lots of "it's just like the flu" several months ago. Now, lots of people wearing masks. There's several outdoor music venues where it's very easy to socially distance. Lots of people telling me it's the only place they go now. They don't feel safe going to inside venues. BIG change for around here.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:37 PM

21. Amazing to me that it takes something this drastic before the see the light.

More amazing still is that so many STILL donít see it.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:44 PM

22. Unless Russia breaks into our voting machines,

a proposition that very sadly cannot be dismissed, I disagree with people who say we wonít know the result for days. In an undisturbed election, this would be a historic rout. I donít think we should sit on our hands. We should donate. We should vote. We should make certain our like-minded friends, neighbors and relatives vote. But we have a good chance heíll be voted out. He is incompetent and unpopular.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:50 PM

23. Thanks for the appreciation for my thread and all your

thoughtful responses. My read with this gentleman tonight was...The pandemic has turned his way of life upside down. Maybe the kids in his life canít go to school maybe he can no longer go to his office to work. He had forgotten his mask (we were in our cars so adequate distance) and he was tired of that continued mask hassle. Who knows what he thinks about local or national sports being sidelined. In short he misses his day to day life.
Yes many other reasons to despise Trump but Trump taking away the daily life we lead as Americans will be resented by so many of us and not just us Democratic voters.

And to add he was real pleasant in our brief encounter I think he simply missed talking to people.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:52 PM

24. My daughter lives in the Nob Hill area of Albuquerque

She says that between the pandemic failure and the postal manipulation that Trump will definitely lose New Mexico.

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Response to patphil (Reply #24)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:54 PM

25. I agree with her. 100%.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Tue Aug 18, 2020, 11:55 PM

26. One vote at a time...nt

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Wed Aug 19, 2020, 04:14 AM

28. Everything counts

And it all adds up.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Wed Aug 19, 2020, 06:08 AM

30. This is good news

I live in primarily a Democratic area of Chicago (is that redundant?) However.....my 2 next door neighbors are not only republicans, but MAGATS. One is more low keyed about it than the other. The more vocal one had a trump sign in his yard in 2016, which I flipped off every time I walked by.

I am bracing myself for the trump signs and flags to come out any day now. This is the first time in my political life I envision trespassing in his yard and removing his signs. That is not who I am, yet this evil trump has brought out such deep hatred in me, I'm sure many others as well.

So, instead of thinking about trespassing, totally focusing on where I can place my HUGE Biden Harris flag.

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Response to North Shore Chicago (Reply #30)

Wed Aug 19, 2020, 07:26 AM

31. An appropriate response! I will also be getting some Biden yard swag as well as t shirt gear!

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Wed Aug 19, 2020, 09:57 AM

32. was in the e r from 11pm to 2. had a interesting talk with my e.r dr.

naturaly we got into talking about the weather , climate change and so on. the dr . said that trump is a jerk. his words . i live in a mostly red district with some of us scattered about.

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Response to AllaN01Bear (Reply #32)

Wed Aug 19, 2020, 01:08 PM

34. Yes encouraging

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Wed Aug 19, 2020, 02:00 PM

35. The point to remember is that this man reached his breaking point. Okay, so he had to

Get personally hurt or potentially hurt by tRumpís actions or inactions. At one time we all believed there was nothing that could break the bond between tRump and his supporters. Now we know that isnít quite accurate. Apparently, some people do take their own personal safety and well being very seriously. They could be blind to his faults but whenever it began to threaten them and their families, it started to get real for them. Finally.

So take it as a sign of hope even if you only encounter a few here and there that have broken the spell. It still represents something to give us a reason to smile and carry on.

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Response to Grammy23 (Reply #35)

Wed Aug 19, 2020, 04:07 PM

37. Point well taken Grammy23!

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Wed Aug 19, 2020, 07:34 PM

38. It's all part of the plot to keep us from voting.

I view these stories with skepticism.

Do not get lulled into a false sense of security. All similar stories could actually be about the same one person.

There is no substitute for voting on the day.

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Response to dickthegrouch (Reply #38)

Wed Aug 19, 2020, 07:46 PM

39. Point understood. All the same it's nice to have some uplifting

messages as we get out the vote.

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Response to ALBliberal (Original post)

Wed Aug 19, 2020, 07:48 PM

40. K & R

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