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Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:13 PM

More shenanigans: Mailbox openings are being locked shut

So it looks like the GOP and trump are still playing gotcha games. They claim they won't remove anymore mailboxes, but will the mailboxes be functional???






The Post Office in Burbank, CA

All outdoor boxes locked shut. The entrance to the Post Office is locked and you canít mail a letter?

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Reply More shenanigans: Mailbox openings are being locked shut (Original post)
ecstatic Aug 2020 OP
triron Aug 2020 #1
SheltieLover Aug 2020 #2
Atticus Aug 2020 #3
Hekate Aug 2020 #7
Atticus Aug 2020 #9
Hekate Aug 2020 #11
Atticus Aug 2020 #17
Hekate Aug 2020 #21
Atticus Aug 2020 #22
Mr.Bill Aug 2020 #28
Atticus Aug 2020 #31
FailureToCommunicate Aug 2020 #35
FailureToCommunicate Aug 2020 #34
PSPS Aug 2020 #18
flyingfysh Aug 2020 #40
Volaris Aug 2020 #41
progressive nobody Aug 2020 #4
Hoyt Aug 2020 #5
dsc Aug 2020 #6
tinrobot Aug 2020 #8
Hoyt Aug 2020 #13
renate Aug 2020 #16
Hoyt Aug 2020 #20
chowder66 Aug 2020 #33
not_the_one Aug 2020 #38
Hoyt Aug 2020 #42
Volaris Aug 2020 #43
druidity33 Aug 2020 #10
Hoyt Aug 2020 #12
demigoddess Aug 2020 #25
Beaverhausen Aug 2020 #46
ecstatic Aug 2020 #15
Hoyt Aug 2020 #23
ecstatic Aug 2020 #24
Hoyt Aug 2020 #26
catchnrelease Aug 2020 #29
shanti Aug 2020 #14
a kennedy Aug 2020 #19
DSandra Aug 2020 #36
ehrnst Aug 2020 #47
DSandra Aug 2020 #50
ehrnst Aug 2020 #51
appalachiablue Aug 2020 #27
Illumination Aug 2020 #30
ehrnst Aug 2020 #48
Illumination Aug 2020 #49
ehrnst Aug 2020 #52
Illumination Aug 2020 #53
Pepsidog Aug 2020 #32
bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #37
ecstatic Aug 2020 #39
Blue Owl Aug 2020 #44
liberalla Aug 2020 #45
DFW Aug 2020 #54

Response to ecstatic (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:17 PM

1. Nancy get onto the shit asap!

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Response to triron (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:21 PM

2. RIGHT NOW!!!!!

🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

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Response to ecstatic (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:29 PM

3. I possess a large bolt cutter. Can anyone tell me what the penalty would be for

"removing an impediment intentionally installed as an attempt to delay or halt properly stamped US mail"?

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Response to Atticus (Reply #3)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:42 PM

7. You suddenly reminded me of Cool Hand Luke cutting the heads off parking meters...

Can you eat a hundred eggs?

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Response to Hekate (Reply #7)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:47 PM

9. "What we have here---is a failure to communicate!" nt

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Response to Atticus (Reply #9)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:52 PM

11. Definitely my favorite line. nt

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Response to Hekate (Reply #11)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:02 PM

17. I'm kinda partial to "I don't care if it rains and freezes

Long as I got my plastic Jesus
Sittin' on the dashboard of my car"

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Response to Atticus (Reply #17)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:08 PM

21. Was that in Cool Hand Luke, too?!

I donít care if Iím a winner or loser
Long as I got my gold mezzuzah...

Goiní 90 it ainít scary
Long as I got the Virgin Mary
Assuriní me that I wonít go to Hell ...


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Response to Hekate (Reply #21)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:12 PM

22. Yup. Luke sang it sitting on a bunk just after finding out his mom had died. I think he was

strumming a makeshift guitar or banjo.

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Response to Atticus (Reply #9)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:35 PM

28. I like "Callin' it your job don't make it right, boss."

as the guard was putting him in the box for the night and being apologetic about it.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #28)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:38 PM

31. A good choice. Hard to select just a couple "favorites" from that movie. nt

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #28)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:01 PM

35. Agree!

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Response to Atticus (Reply #9)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:59 PM

34. ...

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Response to Hekate (Reply #7)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:05 PM

18. "50 eggs in a hour"

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Response to Atticus (Reply #3)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:46 PM

40. It works not help

They are probably no longer collecting from the box

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Response to Atticus (Reply #3)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:53 PM

41. I cannot, but you can bet your sweet bippy that if YOU had locked that mailbox shut,

That bippy would get itself spanked with a federal felony charge. Screwing around with Constitutionally mandated post routes is one of the oldest national crimes on the books, right?

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Response to ecstatic (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:31 PM

4. Holy Effin' SHIT!!!

 

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Response to ecstatic (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:36 PM

5. Post Offices in high crime areas have been doing that for years after last pickup.

Hereís a 2015 article. Sorry itís behind paywall, but you can read enough to get the gist ó prevents people stealing from them at night.

https://www.latimes.com/socal/glendale-news-press/news/tn-gnp-montrose-post-office-branch-locking-mail-boxes-at-night-20150819-story.html


Hereís a free one 2016.

https://www.dailynews.com/2016/04/23/thieves-raiding-valley-mailboxes-prompt-postal-service-to-take-action/

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:41 PM

6. Burbank is high crime?

I thought it was a tony area of LA

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Response to dsc (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:43 PM

8. Solid middle class.

Definitely not high crime, though.

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Response to dsc (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:55 PM

13. Do we have to be as gullible as GOPers. Here's a photo from 2016.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #13)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:00 PM

16. Thank you! That's a relief!

But we do have good reason to suspect shenanigans, unlike conspiracy theorists.

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Response to renate (Reply #16)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:07 PM

20. I totally agree, but we ought to Fact Check too.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #20)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:46 PM

33. +1

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #20)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:29 PM

38. It's all part of the plan...

 

We caught them, they are saying they will remove no more drop boxes (I don't believe them), so the lock them up. No mention about putting the ones already removed, BACK. The sorters have already faded. Are THEY going to be put back? (It is really hard to put back one that has been destroyed, and they won't be bothered to pull the ones out that are still in the dumpster...)

When questioned about the locks, they will say it is only done after dark to keep people from stealing mail (when it has never been a problem before in that area). Aren't all these problem areas where democrats are predominate?

It gives them justification, and STILL accomplishes EXACTLY what they set out to do.

Meanwhile, the dems are "considering" coming back from recess (when everything is now being done virtually) to issue some sternly worded letters and a threat of subpoenas. While simultaneously the republican senators really don't give a shit, and can't be made to do anything.

And how many days is it until the election?

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Response to not_the_one (Reply #38)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:56 PM

42. Well, I just read a NYT article saying if the post office slows things down, it'll hurt GOPers more

than Democrats.

Maybe we ought to be encouraging that. Most states that we need have Ballot Drop Boxes. GOPers can use the "crippled" PO, while we take our ballots to the drop boxes, or at least request ballots early and mail them back immediately.


"Which Party Would Benefit Most From Voting by Mail?

"Itís Complicated -- Conventional wisdom has been that Democrats are more likely to benefit from voting by mail. But thatís not what research has shown."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/25/us/vote-by-mail-coronavirus.html

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Response to dsc (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:56 PM

43. It is of they voted for clinton.

Dear Leader will brook no deviation from the requirement of his worship.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:52 PM

10. Photo looks like daytime to me. nt.


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Response to druidity33 (Reply #10)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:54 PM

12. Last pickup at 5:00 PM.

Christ, everything is not a conspiracy.

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Response to druidity33 (Reply #10)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:26 PM

25. long shadows. check the shadows.

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Response to druidity33 (Reply #10)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 09:53 PM

46. And it's sunday

The office is closed and they lock the boxes so no one can steal mail out of them.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:59 PM

15. Interesting. I've never seen that and there's quite a bit of crime near the Kroger Plaza

which contains my nearest USPS mail/drop box. I think I'll drop by tonight to see if the box is even there anymore.

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #15)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:12 PM

23. I suspect smart Post Office thieves are more likely to go for stuff in Hollywood.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #23)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:22 PM

24. OK. The twitter user needs to check again tomorrow during business hours

and update everyone on the situation. It's possible some of us are becoming too paranoid, but it could be a brilliant strategy for the GOP, as it would be hard for people to prove to others that it's happening for the wrong reasons. Any locked boxes that were outed on social media could be opened back up on a case by case basis. That would take tremendous organization though... so hopefully you're right and there is nothing nefarious going on.

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #24)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:30 PM

26. That's a good idea. Believe me, I understand the paranoia and distrust.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:36 PM

29. I'll vouch for this

I'm in the East Long Beach/Lakewood area (very middle class, not high crime, altho' it's been getting worse) and we have had the mailboxes in our neighborhoods and at the actual PO changed to this kind of system. For at least a couple of years there have been increasing problems with people stealing mail out of the old style mailboxes--the kind with either drive up chutes or the pull open door at the top. You would to to put mail in either one and the entire openings would be full of sticky 'goop'. What was explained to us that complained, was that thieves would use wire, or other long implements with sticky substances on them, and essentially, fish for mail. That was the chute style. For the pull down door style, the sticky stuff would catch envelopes that were just tossed in and the person didn't check. So the mail piece would not fall down, but stick inside the door area.

So, now our outside boxes have either been removed or replaced with the kind in the photos that lock--yes at 5pm, or ones that have just a narrow slot that even has kind of a lip on it. And you really have to bend down and look to see that you are getting the letter into the slot. It's a little bit inconvenient, but at least it should deter theft. And no more getting gunk all over your hands when you went to mail a letter!

I do believe the PMGeneral is trying to screw over the USPS, but in this case I don't think these changes have anything to do with elections or voting, etc.

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Response to ecstatic (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:56 PM

14. They say they aren't destroying

the sorting machines, but leaving them out in the elements WILL destroy them! MFers!

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Response to ecstatic (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:07 PM

19. OFGAWD SAKE.......SERIOUSLY???

What the hell else can they do to make sure the orange piece of shit gets in AGAIN.

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Response to a kennedy (Reply #19)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:04 PM

36. RWers bring an AK 47 to a gunfight...

What do we bring?

We have to learn how power works and how to get power, otherwise we will be steamrolled like this.

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Response to DSandra (Reply #36)

Mon Aug 17, 2020, 09:34 AM

47. Speak for yourself.

 

Last edited Mon Aug 17, 2020, 10:33 AM - Edit history (3)

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/16/903056927/pelosi-calls-back-lawmakers-to-vote-on-postal-service

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-democrats-post-office-campaign/2020/08/14/390f8b82-de4d-11ea-809e-b8be57ba616e_story.html

Biden Slams Trump's New Remarks on Post Office






So... what would Democrats 'bringing an AK47' to the fight actually mean specifically?

You continue to bash them as "weak" or "cowardly" or "do nothing" on thread after thread, yet won't say what you expect them to do that they are not.

That's not 'dissent,' just carping and sniping at Democrats and leadership, again and again and again. There are other places where Democrat bashing is welcomed, and you would be much happier there than on Democratic Underground.

You seem so familiar, though... even in the short time you've been on DU. You remind me of someone who hasn't posted here in a while.

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #47)

Mon Aug 17, 2020, 05:39 PM

50. We are always on the defensive, if we were a well run party...

They would be on the defensive at least half of the time. They creamed us in 2010, and used the census year to redistribute many states to make it very hard for us to regain the house. They get to name our policies instead of us, like Obamacare. They make us look like a bunch of uptight nerds, which isnít a bad thing but in campaigns for a very powerful role, does matter to many. They have people like Frank Luntz, and past ones like Karl rove and Lee Atwater. I guess we had David Plouffe and David Axelrod, but where were they after 2012?

They keep on getting ahead of us, shows how we have not been playing the game as we should.

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Response to DSandra (Reply #50)

Mon Aug 17, 2020, 08:44 PM

51. Well, there is one guy...

 

He was a partner of Paul Manafort's and got Victor Yanukovych elected in the Ukraine.

Maybe that's the kind of consultant you think that can teach the "poorly run" Democratic party how to "play the game as we should," and "get ahead like the GOP does?"

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Response to ecstatic (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:34 PM

27. Do they know

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Response to ecstatic (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:36 PM

30. Nancy needs to declare this idiot insane & take over running our country ASAP!

 

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Response to Illumination (Reply #30)

Mon Aug 17, 2020, 09:44 AM

48. Right, because the constitution totally gives that power to the Speaker of the House.

 

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #48)

Mon Aug 17, 2020, 12:17 PM

49. OMG Ehrnst! Just found out they're going to drill iin the Artic!!!!!! I'm so upset!

 

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Response to Illumination (Reply #49)

Mon Aug 17, 2020, 09:51 PM

52. I take it you were being facetious?

 

My apologies - I've been seeing posts like this that are serious as fuck. No irony, and literally that complete lack of understanding of what Pelosi can and cannot do as Speaker, as though she has a magic wand she's hiding away somewhere...

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #52)

Mon Aug 17, 2020, 10:58 PM

53. Hello ehrnst. Not joking @ all! Just upset about more of Trump's "shenanigans" & destroying our

 

environment (Arctic, Grand Canyon, etc) This discussion doesn't have to do with Nancy. However we can make it about her also if you'd like...Understand what you're getting at. For the record I think she's doing a great job (under the circumstances) Respect & admire her. She's an outstanding person. Would love to see her take over the reins...

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Response to ecstatic (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:38 PM

32. Why are postal employees following these orders?

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Response to ecstatic (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:15 PM

37. Many drop boxes you can't put a package in anymore

Only open about 3/4". THen they replaced some with older style with shutes on the front. They're nice.

But yes, just stating they won't remove them, they didn't say they'd pickup the mail, or how often, or will process it quickly. They are just playing games with the public, and there's somebody directing this, and I'd bet paying dearly to make it happen.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #37)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:36 PM

39. Good points. We definitely need to monitor the pick up times as well

...somehow. It's a lot to keep up with!! Maybe Congress can pass something requiring that residents of an area be notified of any changes to pick up times, "lock" times, etc. Of course, it might take months to receive such notice.

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Response to ecstatic (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 09:39 PM

44. Those red blockades on the drop boxes could use some "Make America Great Again" stickers

Just sayin'...

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Response to ecstatic (Original post)

Sun Aug 16, 2020, 09:51 PM

45. WTF!!! I don't like seeing the 'junked mail sorting machine' photo either...

I am surprised that they're so bad at the sabotage of the USPS. GOP is low down dirty and corrupt through and through... but they've been much better at hiding their dastardly deeds in the past. It all seems more sloppy, clumsy and obvious this time.

I'm not complaining, I'm just surprised.

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Response to ecstatic (Original post)

Mon Aug 17, 2020, 11:06 PM

54. Trump will say

ĄI said I wouldnĎt remove them. I never said you could use them.ď

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