Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:35 PM
progressive nobody (816 posts)
REALLY?!!! Kamala not eligible to run for VP because of her Immigrant parents?
Why the F*CK isn't a reporter standing up and asking Trump how is he eligible to run when his OWN parents immigrated to America? If he is going to stoop to that level than the next press conference everyone report should ask why isn't his Presidency is illegal after all his mother was an immigrant . Did his grandparents enter America Legally?
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progressive nobody | Aug 2020 | OP |
The Velveteen Ocelot | Aug 2020 | #1 | |
TheBlackAdder | Aug 2020 | #33 | |
TreasonousBastard | Aug 2020 | #2 | |
imanamerican63 | Aug 2020 | #3 | |
TheCowsCameHome | Aug 2020 | #4 | |
onecaliberal | Aug 2020 | #5 | |
TlalocW | Aug 2020 | #6 | |
imanamerican63 | Aug 2020 | #8 | |
ecstatic | Aug 2020 | #14 | |
csziggy | Aug 2020 | #35 | |
zipplewrath | Aug 2020 | #7 | |
Blue Owl | Aug 2020 | #9 | |
cornball 24 | Aug 2020 | #10 | |
progressive nobody | Aug 2020 | #12 | |
ornotna | Aug 2020 | #11 | |
progressive nobody | Aug 2020 | #15 | |
IggleDuer | Aug 2020 | #20 | |
nsd | Aug 2020 | #30 | |
progressive nobody | Aug 2020 | #32 | |
SMC22307 | Aug 2020 | #13 | |
SheltieLover | Aug 2020 | #21 | |
SMC22307 | Aug 2020 | #26 | |
SheltieLover | Aug 2020 | #28 | |
Initech | Aug 2020 | #16 | |
progressive nobody | Aug 2020 | #18 | |
IggleDuer | Aug 2020 | #17 | |
Ilsa | Aug 2020 | #19 | |
ornotna | Aug 2020 | #23 | |
unblock | Aug 2020 | #25 | |
struggle4progress | Aug 2020 | #34 | |
unblock | Aug 2020 | #22 | |
nsd | Aug 2020 | #31 | |
atreides1 | Aug 2020 | #24 | |
Princess Turandot | Aug 2020 | #27 | |
onetexan | Aug 2020 | #29 |
Response to progressive nobody (Original post)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:38 PM
The Velveteen Ocelot (107,166 posts)
1. Ignore it; it's more birther bullshit. They got nothing.
Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #1)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:14 PM
TheBlackAdder (26,108 posts)
33. Yep. That rules out anchor baby Nikki Haley as Trump's VP pick!
Response to progressive nobody (Original post)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:38 PM
TreasonousBastard (42,131 posts)
2. See Straw! Grasp!
Response to progressive nobody (Original post)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:38 PM
imanamerican63 (12,621 posts)
3. This makes Trump an even more illegal president!
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Response to progressive nobody (Original post)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:38 PM
TheCowsCameHome (40,081 posts)
4. The reporters are a bunch of sheep.
It isn't worth watching.
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Response to progressive nobody (Original post)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:38 PM
onecaliberal (29,340 posts)
5. The press is the problem. I'm sorry but a fifth grader could do better.
I’m done watching or paying attention.
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Response to progressive nobody (Original post)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:40 PM
TlalocW (14,906 posts)
6. Fred Trump was born in America
Not Trump's grandfather has an interesting history of apparently being kicked out of Germany after returning from America which he went to in order to avoid military service. Then opened a brothel.
I know how much of that is true though. But Fred was born in America. ON EDIT: Oh, yeah... his mom was born in Scotland... Never mind. ![]() TlalocW |
Response to TlalocW (Reply #6)
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Response to TlalocW (Reply #6)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:45 PM
ecstatic (30,821 posts)
14. On several occassions, trump has said his dad was born in Germany.
The media corrects him and expresses bewilderment each time, but maybe there's a reason why trump continues to project fake birth certificate conspiracies onto others?
![]() But for some reason, the president keeps saying his father was born in Germany. The White House did not immediately respond to a request for an explanation.
In July 2018, the president told Fox Business Network’s Maria Bartiromo that both his parents were born in the European Union in an interview about trade with Europe. His mother, Mary Anne Trump, was born in Scotland. “My parents were born in the European Union,” he said. “I love those countries, Germany and all of the countries, Scotland.” https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/claudiakoerner/trump-father-false-germany |
Response to ecstatic (Reply #14)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:17 PM
csziggy (33,812 posts)
35. For years both Dolt45 and Fred Trump claimed Frederick Trump was from Sweden
Trump's family denied German heritage for years
Jennifer Hansler By Jennifer Hansler, CNN Updated 2:57 PM ET, Tue November 28, 2017 (CNN)President Donald Trump has come under fire for using the name of a famous Native American as a slur -- at an event honoring Native Americans for their service as code talkers in World War II, no less. <SNIP> Fred Trump sought to pass himself off as Swedish amid anti-German sentiment sparked by World War II. According to the biography "The Trumps: Three Generations that Built an Empire" by Gwenda Blair, Fred Trump denied knowing German and did not teach it to his children. John Walter, a Trump family historian and one of Donald Trump's cousins, said this was an effort to not offend his Jewish customers. "He said, 'You don't sell apartments after the war if you're German,' " Walter said in the Boston Globe article. "So he's Swedish, no problem." Even after World War II, Fred Trump continued to claim he was Swedish, according to Walter. More: https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/28/politics/trump-family-heritage/index.html |
Response to progressive nobody (Original post)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:40 PM
zipplewrath (16,565 posts)
7. SSDD
We went through all of this idiocy with the original birthers.
You can read the whole constitution, you'll see nothing in there about "anchor babies". |
Response to progressive nobody (Original post)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:41 PM
Blue Owl (43,856 posts)
9. FUCK TRUMP
n/t
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Response to progressive nobody (Original post)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:41 PM
cornball 24 (1,420 posts)
10. I am so pissed off about this I can't see straight!! So Obama was Kenyan and Harris is
Kamalian? If they told shitbag that Kamala was a Kamalian, he is so F'ing stupid he would believe it!!
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Response to cornball 24 (Reply #10)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:43 PM
progressive nobody (816 posts)
12. I am too. This is my way of venting. Trump just needsto look at his own family history.
Response to progressive nobody (Original post)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:41 PM
ornotna (10,373 posts)
11. No, not really
And Fred tRump was born in The Bronx.
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Response to ornotna (Reply #11)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:45 PM
progressive nobody (816 posts)
15. Yes, but mummy was born in Scotland and did Fred run back to the father country to get out of
military service?
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Response to progressive nobody (Reply #15)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:51 PM
IggleDuer (929 posts)
20. Did Mommy go back to Scotland?
Since the Trump fathers are known to be absentee fathers (think Stormy Daniels). She may have fled to get support from he family.
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Response to progressive nobody (Reply #15)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 08:58 PM
nsd (2,383 posts)
30. No, it was Fred's father who was the draft dodger.
He left Germany to avoid military service.
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Response to nsd (Reply #30)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:13 PM
progressive nobody (816 posts)
32. Ah, I stand corrected
Response to progressive nobody (Original post)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:44 PM
SMC22307 (8,040 posts)
13. I wonder if Kamala laughed it off and called it "birther bullshit"
in such a way that makes him look like even more of an idiot, how it would go over. Something along the lines of "you losers tried this bullshit with Obama... give it up already" but with much more finesse.
Fat Nixon's father was born in the Bronx and his mother in Scotland, so I guess using his "logic" he's half-eligible to be Prez. |
Response to SMC22307 (Reply #13)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:52 PM
SheltieLover (57,073 posts)
21. No doubt!
I'm sure she knew full well the ridiculous nonsense that would be coming her way. Somehow, I think it strengthens her resolve. 👍
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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #21)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 08:06 PM
SMC22307 (8,040 posts)
26. "Grab a Red Stripe and some samosas and try to figure out why you're wrong, dumbass."
I think laughing at them for their sheer stupidity might be a better strategy than getting indignant.
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Response to SMC22307 (Reply #26)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 08:12 PM
SheltieLover (57,073 posts)
28. Maybe so!
They are beyond ridiculous! And, as they have no plans to improve or fix anything, all they can do is attempt to throw stuf at the wall.
Mr. "Law & order" can't very well attack her for being a tough prosecutor, for example. I guess it's better to laugh at them and not be distracted while we are busy winning in Nov! ![]() |
Response to progressive nobody (Original post)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:47 PM
Initech (96,362 posts)
16. These fuckers are ruthless, we must not fall for their bullshit!
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Response to Initech (Reply #16)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:50 PM
progressive nobody (816 posts)
18. No, but we should bring a gun to the gun fight.
fire with fire....
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Response to progressive nobody (Original post)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:49 PM
IggleDuer (929 posts)
17. Wait till they say that California did not have statehood when Camela was born ...
... like when Obama was born in Hawaii, they said it wasn’t a state. It was!
The Repubs will grasp at anything! |
Response to progressive nobody (Original post)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:51 PM
Ilsa (60,884 posts)
19. They are using an interpretation
about whether her immigrant parents still held allegiance to foreign governments when she was born.
A very slippery standard, IMO. |
Response to Ilsa (Reply #19)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:55 PM
ornotna (10,373 posts)
23. They were marching for civil rights
Sure sounds like their allegiance was to the good old USA.
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Response to Ilsa (Reply #19)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:59 PM
unblock (51,291 posts)
25. They're basically claiming that only children of citizens are citizens
Of course, if that what was intended, they would have drafted the 14th amendment that way. They didn't. They said "... and subject to the jurisdiction thereof...".
It's ridiculous to claim that immigrants aren't subject to the laws of the United States, even if they're not citizens. It's meant to exclude invading armies and diplomats. |
Response to Ilsa (Reply #19)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:16 PM
struggle4progress (114,736 posts)
34. Our current president has an allegiance to Russia and doesn't think he is subject
to the jurisdiction of the United States
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Response to progressive nobody (Original post)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:55 PM
unblock (51,291 posts)
22. Federalist crap pretending a precedent from 1898 isn't settled law
Us v. Wong kim ark in 1898 held that you're a citizen if you're born here, unless
1) your parents are foreign diplomats, I.e., subject to the laws of that other nation; or 2) you were born in a part of the United States under the control an invading army, I.e., subject to the law of that other nation; or 3) you were born to parents subject to the laws of an untaxed Indian tribe (a concept that afaik doesn't exist any more, I think they're all taxed now). None of this applies to Kamala, so she's obviously a citizen from birth, a natural-born citizen, and eligible for vp/president. But she's black, so birthers gotta find a way to call her illegitimate..... |
Response to unblock (Reply #22)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:00 PM
nsd (2,383 posts)
31. +1. Good summary. (nt)
Response to progressive nobody (Original post)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 07:55 PM
atreides1 (15,799 posts)
24. Okay
Trump's father was born in the US, his mother immigrated from Scotland using chain migration!
His paternal grandfather was born in Germany and immigrated to the US using chain migration...after he made his fortune, he returned to Germany to get married, and intended to remain in Germany. But, it seems that grandpa was a draft dodger, so he was deported back to the US, with his new bride! By the way, Melania's parents immigrated to the US using chain migration, what makes this interesting is that Trump has spoken out against the use of chain migration...with some exceptions, it seems!!! |
Response to progressive nobody (Original post)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 08:10 PM
Princess Turandot (4,694 posts)
27. She's perfectly eligible..
Per Twitter in trending Politics
Kamala Harris is eligible to serve as US president, fact-checkers confirm. Multiple fact-checkers, including AP, PolitiFact and Snopes, confirmed that Kamala Harris was born in Oakland, California, therefore making her a natural-born citizen of the United States and eligible to serve as both vice president and president. (Among others): AP:
"She was born on Oct. 20, 1964, in Oakland, California, making her a natural-born U.S. citizen. Her father, an economist from Jamaica, and her mother, a cancer researcher from India, met at the University of California, Berkeley as graduate students. Since she was born in the U.S., she is regarded a natural born citizen under the 14th Amendment of the Constitution." PolitiFact
The 14th Amendment of the Constitution states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside." Link to tweet |
Response to progressive nobody (Original post)
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 08:19 PM
onetexan (11,730 posts)