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Sat Aug 8, 2020, 09:13 AM

I see what they are doing?

All along, McConnell has held the extension of UI benefits so Trump can can swoop in and save the day with an executive order! Then Trump can say “see the Democrats we’re the ones who held it up”! It was their plan all along?

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Reply I see what they are doing? (Original post)
imanamerican63 Aug 2020 OP
Laelth Aug 2020 #1
imanamerican63 Aug 2020 #2
soothsayer Aug 2020 #3
Jersey Devil Aug 2020 #4
PatSeg Aug 2020 #5
SWBTATTReg Aug 2020 #6
uponit7771 Aug 2020 #8
Orangepeel Aug 2020 #9
imanamerican63 Aug 2020 #12
Sneederbunk Aug 2020 #7
BannonsLiver Aug 2020 #11
imanamerican63 Aug 2020 #13
BannonsLiver Aug 2020 #14
highplainsdem Aug 2020 #10
Maeve Aug 2020 #15

Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Sat Aug 8, 2020, 09:30 AM

1. Yes. That appears to have been the plan all along.

But we must understand that rule by Executive Order, sidestepping Congress’ power over the national purse, is dictatorship—nothing more and nothing less.

-Laelth

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Response to Laelth (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 8, 2020, 09:32 AM

2. Yep!

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Sat Aug 8, 2020, 09:37 AM

3. They hate the Constitution

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Sat Aug 8, 2020, 10:01 AM

4. except that he does not have the power to do it

A President cannot appropriate money. That is the sole prerogative of Congress.

He can transfer funds already appropriated, as he did with the border wall by taking money from the military, but he cannot initiate an appropriation of funds. So if he does it, there will be a lawsuit in like 5 minutes to stop it.

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Response to Jersey Devil (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 8, 2020, 10:05 AM

5. Exactly

Trump really doesn't know how government works. He is still trying to run the country the way he ran his businesses.

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Response to Jersey Devil (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 8, 2020, 10:28 AM

6. Yes! Didn't they just reaffirm that Congress has the sole right to appropriate funds? Based upon

funding for the wall along the mexico border being ruled illegal or something similar.

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Response to Jersey Devil (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 8, 2020, 11:08 AM

8. +1, ... and in this case he doesn't have a half trillion dollars to transfer from somewhere

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Response to Jersey Devil (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 8, 2020, 11:13 AM

9. who is going to bring the lawsuit?

If the republican hold up is part of a plan to make him the hero (I'm skeptical, but that is the premise of the OP), then republicans won't. If Democrats initiate it, that would play into the plan.

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Response to Jersey Devil (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 8, 2020, 11:39 AM

12. Maybe that is another plan?

“See, I tried to something good & they stopped me” from Trump?

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Sat Aug 8, 2020, 11:07 AM

7. What can an executive order do without money approved by Congress?

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Response to Sneederbunk (Reply #7)

Sat Aug 8, 2020, 11:19 AM

11. Not much

Which is why this OP is off the mark.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #11)

Sat Aug 8, 2020, 11:43 AM

13. If you read it carefully?

I was saying Trump will use this whole thing against the Democrats. He likes stirring the pot anyway he and McConnell can!

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Response to imanamerican63 (Reply #13)

Sat Aug 8, 2020, 11:44 AM

14. So what?

Everything he does at this stage will be to attack Dems. In other news, water is wet.

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Sat Aug 8, 2020, 11:17 AM

10. I thought it seemed pretty obvious. Political theater, with zero concern for the people and the

city and state governments that need help.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Trump had demanded this, even told McConnrll he'd veto any relief bill since he wants to issue EOs instead.

This may very well hurt some Senate Republicans, but I don't think Trump is concerned about anything except his own re-election.

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Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

Sat Aug 8, 2020, 01:36 PM

15. It wasn't Mitch..it was the reason Meadows was sent to "negotiate"

" reject everything, bang on the table, let trump look like the great Solver"

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