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Thu Aug 6, 2020, 05:14 PM

Since the Atty General of New York is dissolving the NRA, how is this going to affect

the ballot box Nov 3rd? Will repugs double down on their "they're gonna take your guns"
rhetoric possibly influencing independents? One thing I've always thought was if Democrats
would say they were 2nd amendment supporters, we could take away one big repug
talking point. We could also talk about enhanced background checks that would only
piss off the deplorables who would never vote for a Democrat anyway. Isn't it around 80%
of NRA members who want better background checks, but McTurtle won't even vote on it?

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KS Toronado Aug 6 OP
GreenPartyVoter Aug 6 #1
lapfog_1 Aug 6 #2
The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 6 #3
Andy823 Aug 6 #17
elleng Aug 6 #4
gratuitous Aug 6 #6
The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 6 #7
DrToast Aug 6 #8
Sympthsical Aug 6 #5
empedocles Aug 6 #9
yonder Aug 6 #16
FM123 Aug 6 #10
Steelrolled Aug 6 #11
SiliconValley_Dem Aug 6 #12
Edwcraig Aug 6 #13
Thomas Hurt Aug 6 #14
mac56 Aug 6 #15

Response to KS Toronado (Original post)

Thu Aug 6, 2020, 05:15 PM

1. I doubt it will affect very much, really.

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Response to KS Toronado (Original post)

Thu Aug 6, 2020, 05:16 PM

2. I think most NRA members are fed up with

the leadership of the NRA.

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Response to KS Toronado (Original post)

Thu Aug 6, 2020, 05:17 PM

3. The NRA stole its members' money.

Only the hardest core MAGAts who wouldn't vote for a Democrat anyhow would be OK with that.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #3)

Thu Aug 6, 2020, 07:14 PM

17. Yes anyone with a brain

left the NRA years ago when they became so political. I agree that only the diehard trump cultists will get upset, and like you said, the would never vote for a Democrat anyway.

Seems like a lot of "concerned" people posting this talking point today!

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Response to KS Toronado (Original post)

Thu Aug 6, 2020, 05:17 PM

4. She is not DISSOLVING the NRA,

she is SUING them.

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Response to elleng (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 6, 2020, 05:19 PM

6. Also . . .

If the proposal is, "Wayne LaPierre is entitled to take contributions to a non-profit organization and spend it lavishly on his own comfort," I'd rather take the "against" side.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 6, 2020, 05:27 PM

8. Yes, but OP kind of skipped a step

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Response to KS Toronado (Original post)

Thu Aug 6, 2020, 05:19 PM

5. The Russia thing seems to have taken the wind out of their sails

It's actually a bit strange. With the protests and everything, you would have thought they'd be going on like gangbusters.

But they're super quiet. Meek even.

I think the Russian thing just kind of wrecked them.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 6, 2020, 05:30 PM

9. Seems like there was a lot more than fraud, that the NRA was involved in

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 6, 2020, 07:08 PM

16. I think lights started shining on the free-flowing spigot from Russia

and they've been trying to lay low before cracking it open again. Today's news caused them to duck for cover again.

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Response to KS Toronado (Original post)

Thu Aug 6, 2020, 05:34 PM

10. The NRA is broke and practically irrelevant

hard to believe trump and the repugs are going to go big for "gun culture" this election without their dollar bills thrown at them.

In 2016, the NRA spent more than $30 million on behalf of the Trump campaign, according to Federal Election Commission data. It was a staggering number compared to 2012, when the group spent about $13 million to try to unseat President Barack Obama and elect Mitt Romney. The Trump campaign represented the lion's share of the group's spending—the NRA spent $54 million on the 2016 elections in total.

https://fortune.com/2019/08/21/how-much-did-nra-contribute-trump-campaign/

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Response to KS Toronado (Original post)

Thu Aug 6, 2020, 05:48 PM

11. I think people pay too much attention to the NRA

It is true that gun owners have a lot of clout, but not through the NRA.

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Response to KS Toronado (Original post)

Thu Aug 6, 2020, 05:59 PM

12. i think most people now see the NRA for the corrupt cesspool it is

 

the ones who should be the most steamed are regular members/donors

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Response to KS Toronado (Original post)

Thu Aug 6, 2020, 06:04 PM

13. In swing states this could be the difference. Passion issues.

There are issues. i.e. the environment and there are Passion issues i.e. take my gun away. Someone can agree with you on 9 out of 10 issues but will vote against you on the one passion issue. The art of politics is to hold down you opposition by avoiding passion issues you are against and stimulate your base with passion issues you are for. We are stimulating the oppositions passion issue. Not good.

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Response to KS Toronado (Original post)

Thu Aug 6, 2020, 06:08 PM

14. meh, I think it will survive but they will be seriously damaged.

Hopefully they will go back their roots gun and hunter safety and stay out of christofascist extremist lobbying, whoring themselves to gun manufacturers, and promoting international gun running.

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Response to KS Toronado (Original post)

Thu Aug 6, 2020, 06:10 PM

15. See, I'm old enough to remember when the NRA

wanted to protect us from Russia.

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