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Sat Aug 1, 2020, 02:15 PM

The Post Office is essential. Cruise ships are not.

How in the hell does Carnival, a cruise ship company that pays virtually no federal income taxes, receive a bailout, but the Postal Service, the most popular government agency in America, does not? The Post Office is essential. Cruise ships are not.


Bernie Sanders (@SenSanders) April 27, 2020

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-fed-intervention-saved-carnival-11587920400?mod=hp_lead_pos4

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Reply The Post Office is essential. Cruise ships are not. (Original post)
diva77 Saturday OP
PoindexterOglethorpe Saturday #1
lark Saturday #3
diva77 Saturday #5
Doremus Saturday #6
MiniMe Saturday #2
msongs Saturday #4
IronLionZion Saturday #14
PoindexterOglethorpe Saturday #7
gulliver Saturday #8
erronis Saturday #10
pazzyanne Saturday #12
diva77 Saturday #16
diva77 Saturday #18
malaise Saturday #9
pazzyanne Saturday #13
IronLionZion Saturday #15
diva77 Saturday #17
Duppers Saturday #11

Response to diva77 (Original post)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 02:25 PM

1. Bernie has it wrong, as does everyone who repeats the myth that

cruise lines got a bailout. What they did, like a lot of other companies, did, was borrow a whole bunch of money. Actually reading the article is helpful.

I wish people would get a lot more exercised about major U.S. corporations that pay no income tax like Amazon, Netflix, Chevron, Delta Airlines, among others.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 02:59 PM

3. Even one penny to them is wrong. These are not American companies.

The rich fucks that own some of them are American, which is why drumpf cares for them & not the workers in the USA.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 04:03 PM

6. Ya think Bernie might know a little bit more about it than reading a couple of articles?

And I think we can be worked up about all the plutocrats and their corporations taking money away from Main Street, don't you?

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Response to diva77 (Original post)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 02:50 PM

2. Virtually no taxes?

All the cruise ships are registered to foreign companies. They pay NO US taxes.

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Response to diva77 (Original post)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 03:33 PM

4. how does the F-35 get a bailout one wonders nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 05:26 PM

14. No has tried shooting down the virus with smart bombs

...yet

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Response to diva77 (Original post)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 04:08 PM

7. Once again, where is the fury at the many American companies

that pay no taxes, some of which actually get tax rebates, so they are getting back taxes they never even paid?

And the cruise ships got to take out loans, as have a lot of other companies.

I honestly don't get the anger at cruise lines. They don't seem to me to be the boogeyman that so many see them as.

If you want to get worked up about companies that pay no taxes, look at this
https://itep.org/notadime/#table

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Response to diva77 (Original post)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 04:11 PM

8. Republicans seem to hate the Post Office for some reason.

I would like to see its mission expanded to the digital realm. It's already a central supplier of identity through its passport services. I would like to have a Post Office issued email address, digital certificates, etc.

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Response to gulliver (Reply #8)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 04:46 PM

10. I'd trust the USPS to be my safe-deposit box also.

Long thought that they could offer secured digital copies of all important documents for a small fee.

Of course, the anti-democracy group wants to reserve those functions/fees for their billion-dollar buddies.

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Response to gulliver (Reply #8)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 05:00 PM

12. I don't think Republicans hate the Post Office.

They want to privatize it so money can be made for their coffers.

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Response to pazzyanne (Reply #12)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 07:34 PM

16. The real estate value alone is enough for them to want it for themselves.

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Response to gulliver (Reply #8)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 07:43 PM

18. Great idea!!

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Response to diva77 (Original post)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 04:14 PM

9. What's more the post office is in the

Constitution

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Response to malaise (Reply #9)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 05:01 PM

13. That, too! nt

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Response to malaise (Reply #9)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 05:30 PM

15. Constitution gives Congress power to establish post offices

but does not require it

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Response to malaise (Reply #9)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 07:41 PM

17. Right you are!

I finally looked it up - an annotated version from Cornell Law School - I need to read this a few times to understand it!!

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-conan/article-1/section-8/clause-7/postal-power

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Response to diva77 (Original post)

Sat Aug 1, 2020, 04:48 PM

11. K & R

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