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Wed Jul 29, 2020, 09:32 AM

More Than 700 Democratic Delegates Vow To Reject Platform If It Doesn't Include Medicare For All

(Forbes) With the Democratic National Convention approaching in August, a growing number of Democratic delegates, led by Senator Bernie Sanders’ Nevada delegation, are joining a pledge to reject the Democratic platform if it doesn’t include Medicare for All, representing the Democratic Party’s latest struggle to unite its progressive and moderate wings and bring Sanders voters into the fold ahead of the November election.

KEY FACTS
More than 700 delegates—mostly representing Sanders, though some back presumptive nominee Joe Biden—have signed on to the pledge, which calls on delegates “to vote against any platform that does not include a plank supporting universal, single-payer Medicare for All.”

The organizers cite the current pandemic as making the need for single-payer healthcare even more urgent, writing in their petition that the widespread job losses resulting from the pandemic “has highlighted the need to separate healthcare from employment.”

Major progressive groups have backed the pledge, including RootsAction.org and the Progressive Democrats of America.

The current draft of the Democratic platform acknowledges but does not outright support Medicare for All, writing that the party “welcomes advocates who want to build on and strengthen the Affordable Care Act and those who support a Medicare for All approach; all are critical to ensuring that health care is a human right.”

Activists supporting the pledge say that the pledge is distinct from their support of Biden’s candidacy, with RootsAction.org co-founder Jeff Cohen telling Forbes that “defeating Trump in November is our number one priority.”

The Sanders and Biden campaigns have not yet responded to a request for comment on the pledge.

CRUCIAL QUOTE
“We believe it’s divisive for party leaders to block a position that is overwhelmingly supported by Democrats, including many Biden primary voters—and the broad U.S. public,” Cohen said in a statement to Forbes. “It’s divisive to foist a minority position on the party that may appeal to a few corporate donors, but offends the party’s activist base that is needed for victory in November.”

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Reply More Than 700 Democratic Delegates Vow To Reject Platform If It Doesn't Include Medicare For All (Original post)
FM123 Jul 29 OP
Loki Liesmith Jul 29 #1
Thekaspervote Jul 29 #2
ehrnst Jul 29 #3
jorgevlorgan Jul 29 #4
comradebillyboy Jul 29 #5
Tom Rinaldo Jul 29 #7
comradebillyboy Jul 29 #9
Tom Rinaldo Jul 29 #14
Happy Hoosier Jul 29 #6
MineralMan Jul 29 #8
Indykatie Jul 29 #10
onetexan Jul 29 #13
ehrnst Jul 29 #22
sarcasmo Jul 29 #11
FM123 Jul 29 #12
empedocles Jul 29 #16
FM123 Jul 29 #18
beachbumbob Jul 29 #15
OnDoutside Jul 29 #17
ehrnst Jul 29 #23
KPN Jul 29 #19
DenverJared Jul 29 #20
GeorgiaPeanut Jul 29 #21

Response to FM123 (Original post)

Wed Jul 29, 2020, 09:36 AM

1. Silliness

Plenty of routes to universal coverage.

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Response to Loki Liesmith (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 29, 2020, 09:37 AM

2. +1000

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Response to Loki Liesmith (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 29, 2020, 09:38 AM

3. +100000

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Wed Jul 29, 2020, 09:39 AM

4. What does this matter

I dont think 700 is close to enough to change the platform or keep it from enacted.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Wed Jul 29, 2020, 09:41 AM

5. The minority attempting to impose it's will on the majority.

Good thing the convention will be virtual or I would expect a repeat of the shenanigans that marred the 2016 Democratic convention.

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #5)

Wed Jul 29, 2020, 09:48 AM

7. The point of voting is to define the majority

If, for example, this plank is only supported by delegates representing Sanders and Warren, then they will lose the vote. Biden has a clear majority of the delegates to the Convention, who were all selected in accordance with Party rules. If a majority of the DNC delegates support a Medicare for All plank, that would not be a minority imposing its will on the majority. That would be a democratic (with a small D) process. Meanwhile they virtually all are backing Biden regardless.

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Response to Tom Rinaldo (Reply #7)

Wed Jul 29, 2020, 09:55 AM

9. Where is the polling to support the idea that

Bernie's version of MFA has the support of the majority of delegates? Why is MFA the only acceptable version of universal coverage when the best health care systems from France and Germany aren't even single payer? Why box ourselves into a dogmatic little corner with no flexibility?

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #9)

Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:05 AM

14. Polling has nothing to do with it, there are many polls that differ. There will be a vote...

...of accredited delegates. A majority will carry the day as always

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Wed Jul 29, 2020, 09:42 AM

6. I wonder if....

They will threaten to hold their breath.

M4A is only one path to universal health care.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Wed Jul 29, 2020, 09:53 AM

8. So? They will be in the minority.

Let's have some solidarity for the 2020 election, shall we?

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Wed Jul 29, 2020, 09:58 AM

10. If M4All Was So Damn Popular Sanders Would Have Done Better in the Primary

Warren started her slide in support when she came out and embraced Medicare For All. People may like the concept but once they hear they would have to give up private Employer sponsored healthcare they say no way. Because of that feature the big Unions won't support it either. Negotiating for benefits is a big part of their mission.

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Response to Indykatie (Reply #10)

Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:00 AM

13. +1 -K&R

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Response to Indykatie (Reply #10)

Wed Jul 29, 2020, 01:46 PM

22. +10000000

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Wed Jul 29, 2020, 09:59 AM

11. Still fighting the primaries. TOS

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:00 AM

12. Honestly, this news took me by surprise that they would pull something like this...

Unlike in 2016, however, Sanders has vocally thrown his support behind Biden after suspending his campaign, and the two candidates united to create a “Unity Task Force” that produced policy recommendations blending their visions.

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Response to FM123 (Reply #12)

Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:10 AM

16. BS pattern repeated

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Response to empedocles (Reply #16)

Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:21 AM

18. It sure looks that way....

at a time when we really need to pull together with less than a hundred days to go - they pull this. I guess it was just wishful thinking on my part that with Bernie, Elizabeth & Joe all putting their heads and hearts together for the Unity Task Force this kind of thing wouldn't happen....

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:06 AM

15. trying to create a wdge issue with in democratic party and we should pay NO heed to it and

let these delegates know they are doing Putin's work for him, NO NEED to waste time on this for "platform:. Its MEANINGLESS if we don't win and makes NO difference when we do.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:11 AM

17. I swear they want Trump to win, just so they can say we told you so.

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #17)

Wed Jul 29, 2020, 01:47 PM

23. Indeed. (nt)

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Wed Jul 29, 2020, 11:00 AM

19. So, what they are saying is they will vote against it. So what? How to make a big deal out of

everyday democracy basically.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Wed Jul 29, 2020, 11:15 AM

20. Undemocratic

 

The platform was built by consensus of Bernie's and Biden's delegates. Going back on the consensus is silliness and divisive.

Isn't Bernie's word worth anything? He selected the delegates to the platform committee and they signed off on the platform.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Wed Jul 29, 2020, 11:19 AM

21. Tail trying to wag the dog

 

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