Sun Jul 26, 2020, 08:21 PM

I am really starting to get worried about November.

I'm worried that the polls are not reflective of the real numbers. I'm worried that, as in 2016, Trump voters will lie and call themselves undecideds in polling, and vote for Trump on Election Day. I'm worried that Trump will screw with the Post Office enough to throw off the mail-in ballot numbers. I'm afraid that all the usual Republican election cheats will allow Trump to squeak out a tiny margin in battleground states and take the election.

I'm worried that even if Biden does manage an electoral victory, that Trump will throw the country into an absolute state of upheaval and that all those crazy fuckers with long guns who were protesting the lockdown will be out looking for targets. I'm worried that Trump will send out his goons to cities and have those crazy fuckers join with them for his own private army. I'm worried that the police will just stand by and watch it all happen. I'm worried that our armed forces will just stand by and let it happen. I'm worried that there will be open warfare in cities all across America and that it could mark the end of our democracy.

Someone tell me I'm wrong. Please.

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I am really starting to get worried about November. (Original post)	GaYellowDawg	Jul 2020	OP
I'm concerned that they've already rigged it.	BlueTsunami2018	Jul 2020	#1
Probably have, including the mail in ballots. They end up being tabulated with the same machines.	LiberalArkie	Jul 2020	#10
Don't feel like the Lone Ranger. n/t	rzemanfl	Jul 2020	#2
The polls were quite accurate in 2016.	Loki Liesmith	Jul 2020	#3
They were not accurate.	former9thward	Jul 2020	#37
She did. In terms of the popular vote. However, it's the Electoral College that actually	PoindexterOglethorpe	Jul 2020	#52
The Clinton campaign team wanted to get to 400 electoral votes.	former9thward	Jul 2020	#54
None of what you say is true...so stop. Clinton did not ignore the Mid West.	Demsrule86	Jul 2020	#77
She did not even make one stop in Wisconsin.	former9thward	Jul 2020	#80
Bernie Sanders did, for Hillary.	betsuni	Jul 2020	#85
+1	BannonsLiver	Jul 2020	#84
Yes they were where she was in mid July within the margin of error is where we ended up	Demsrule86	Jul 2020	#76
The polls were accurate. Then the polls changed.	StevieM	Jul 2020	#78
Not me. 2020 is not 2016.20	LakeArenal	Jul 2020	#4
Thank you!! A voice of sanity	Thekaspervote	Jul 2020	#12
Trump is a ."..GIANT DISASTER" A LIAR AND A BULLY. Trump will lose.	Stuart G	Jul 2020	#36
I think a bunch of us are thinking that	marlakay	Jul 2020	#5
Not concerned about what he might do if he loses. I am concerned	Hoyt	Jul 2020	#6
I could see Trump cheating if he were only down a couple of points	Poiuyt	Jul 2020	#7
The difference from 2016	badseedboy	Jul 2020	#8
I think Joe Biden is right	quickesst	Jul 2020	#9
Amen to that! I don't think Biden just says stuff...I really don't	Thekaspervote	Jul 2020	#13
here's what I personally think	quickesst	Jul 2020	#53
Might as well give up then?	brooklynite	Jul 2020	#11
Hell no, I'm not giving up.	GaYellowDawg	Jul 2020	#17
Facing and planning for reality is the opposite of giving up	uponit7771	Jul 2020	#26
I absolutely agree...	brooklynite	Jul 2020	#31
except these type of OPs are not reality	obamanut2012	Jul 2020	#62
Only if one were to give Red Don the benefit of the doubt, I don't believe he deserves ANY AT ALL	uponit7771	Jul 2020	#65
Exactly, how do these help in any way ?	JI7	Jul 2020	#68
Keep working hard. Do all you can to help elect Joe Biden.	cayugafalls	Jul 2020	#14
What's Your Basis For Your Poll Doubts	ProfessorGAC	Jul 2020	#15
Everyone predicted a Clinton electoral victory. Everyone.	former9thward	Jul 2020	#38
You are right. Almost everybody at DU was absolutely certain that Clinton would win.	totodeinhere	Jul 2020	#47
Sure They Did	ProfessorGAC	Jul 2020	#55
I imagine you have well thought out plans to deal with this in case it comes to pass	Kaleva	Jul 2020	#16
I don't have plans.	GaYellowDawg	Jul 2020	#18
A person who is really worried will take some kind of action. Making plans and such.	Kaleva	Jul 2020	#21
You can't plan for a situation with this many variables.	GaYellowDawg	Jul 2020	#40
There are really only two scenarios	Kaleva	Jul 2020	#70
If Trump does win again there will be nothing to plan for.	totodeinhere	Jul 2020	#48
One can make definite plans on leaving the country.	Kaleva	Jul 2020	#67
I guess so, but I don't think I can just pick up and leave the country on a whim.	totodeinhere	Jul 2020	#71
You could certainly move to other parts of the country where people are more like you	Kaleva	Jul 2020	#72
I live in Nevada which is rapidly becoming a blue state.	totodeinhere	Jul 2020	#73
Negativity generates apathy.	NurseJackie	Jul 2020	#19
Quite	Me.	Jul 2020	#29
It's a stressful time. Everyone wants reassurances. But sky-is-falling posts don't help.	NurseJackie	Jul 2020	#30
...	Me.	Jul 2020	#33
That's why I'm saying that here.	GaYellowDawg	Jul 2020	#41
Exactly, this is the one place where we can voice our fears	Bettie	Jul 2020	#57
I recommend therapy. Seriously.	writes3000	Jul 2020	#20
I fear for the chaos and destruction that lies ahead, but hopeful we will prevail nt	Fiendish Thingy	Jul 2020	#22
2020 is closest to 1932... utter failure of leadership in a disaster... Gov. attacking the populace	JCMach1	Jul 2020	#23
Every day I remind myself of just how many people have been hurt by him	msdogi	Jul 2020	#24
I think the American people have had just about enough of this clown show	A HERETIC I AM	Jul 2020	#25
I'll settle for a regular old landslide.	GaYellowDawg	Jul 2020	#43
Can't disgree!	A HERETIC I AM	Jul 2020	#51
Relax on November Fourth	calguy	Jul 2020	#27
Ten points down would be completely demoralizing. Many would give up or just shoot themselves.	lagomorph777	Jul 2020	#63
"I am an old man," wrote Mark Twain near the end of his life. . . .	Journeyman	Jul 2020	#28
That's a great quote	GaYellowDawg	Jul 2020	#44
Despair is very much an occasional human trait . . .	Journeyman	Jul 2020	#50
You're worried because you're believing a lie about Trump voters in 2016.	Drunken Irishman	Jul 2020	#32
Thank you for that summary.	GaYellowDawg	Jul 2020	#74
I think Biden will win a close race	Awsi Dooger	Jul 2020	#34
Joe doesn't come off as a wonky person	Proud Liberal Dem	Jul 2020	#56
I'll be more blunt about it	Awsi Dooger	Jul 2020	#66
We only need three states actually WI, MI and PA...but it won't be close. A close election won't	Demsrule86	Jul 2020	#92
Trump has proved to everyone,...he is stupid, by saying, "It will go away after 5 people die"	Stuart G	Jul 2020	#35
YOU ARE WRONG...TRUMP DID NOT FOLLOW THE RULES: RULE ONE..DON'T LIE!!! ESPECIALLY	Stuart G	Jul 2020	#39
I don't know.	GaYellowDawg	Jul 2020	#42
We need to vote in massive numbers in November!	herding cats	Jul 2020	#45
Maybe you worry too much. n/t	totodeinhere	Jul 2020	#46
Maybe I do.	GaYellowDawg	Jul 2020	#75
But on the other hand, maybe you don't worry too much.	totodeinhere	Jul 2020	#94
This message was self-deleted by its author	marie999	Jul 2020	#49
More likely it will be a combination of Secret Service backed	dware	Jul 2020	#82
They will when President Biden tells them to do exactly that if it comes to this.	Demsrule86	Jul 2020	#93
Trump is going to get CRUSHED! GOP will be walloped much worse than 2018!	ElementaryPenguin	Jul 2020	#58
I personally know too many people who voted for Trump or voted third-party voting for Biden now.	phylny	Jul 2020	#59
Unfortunately, you are not wrong	ScratchCat	Jul 2020	#60
He's not running for re-election.	lagomorph777	Jul 2020	#64
Sorry, but this is nonsense.	Fix The Stupid	Jul 2020	#87
I've been watching since Nixon (and before).	lagomorph777	Jul 2020	#90
jfc	obamanut2012	Jul 2020	#61
I am not worried at all.	SpaceNeedle	Jul 2020	#69
+1. It's good to be on edge.	radius777	Jul 2020	#79
Of course I'm scared too, but if I try to take emotion out of it ...	dawg	Jul 2020	#81
You're wrong and defeatist twaddle helps nothing	BannonsLiver	Jul 2020	#83
Which is why what Stacey Abrams, Michelle Obama, Beto O'Rourke, and others....	SKKY	Jul 2020	#86
If you feel that way, then call your local Democratic Party organization	MineralMan	Jul 2020	#88
Definitely what I need to do.	GaYellowDawg	Jul 2020	#95
Post removed	Post removed	Jul 2020	#89
!	Fix The Stupid	Jul 2020	#91

Response to GaYellowDawg (Original post)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 08:23 PM

BlueTsunami2018 (2,464 posts)

1. I'm concerned that they've already rigged it.

Like they did in ‘16.

That’s why he feels he can just do or say anything without any repercussions.

I am really starting to get worried about November.

1. I'm concerned that they've already rigged it.

10. Probably have, including the mail in ballots. They end up being tabulated with the same machines.

2. Don't feel like the Lone Ranger. n/t

3. The polls were quite accurate in 2016.

37. They were not accurate.

52. She did. In terms of the popular vote. However, it's the Electoral College that actually

54. The Clinton campaign team wanted to get to 400 electoral votes.

77. None of what you say is true...so stop. Clinton did not ignore the Mid West.

80. She did not even make one stop in Wisconsin.

85. Bernie Sanders did, for Hillary.

84. +1

76. Yes they were where she was in mid July within the margin of error is where we ended up

78. The polls were accurate. Then the polls changed.

4. Not me. 2020 is not 2016.20

12. Thank you!! A voice of sanity

36. Trump is a ."..GIANT DISASTER" A LIAR AND A BULLY. Trump will lose.

5. I think a bunch of us are thinking that

6. Not concerned about what he might do if he loses. I am concerned

7. I could see Trump cheating if he were only down a couple of points

8. The difference from 2016

9. I think Joe Biden is right

13. Amen to that! I don't think Biden just says stuff...I really don't

53. here's what I personally think

11. Might as well give up then?

17. Hell no, I'm not giving up.

26. Facing and planning for reality is the opposite of giving up

31. I absolutely agree...

62. except these type of OPs are not reality

65. Only if one were to give Red Don the benefit of the doubt, I don't believe he deserves ANY AT ALL

68. Exactly, how do these help in any way ?

14. Keep working hard. Do all you can to help elect Joe Biden.

15. What's Your Basis For Your Poll Doubts

38. Everyone predicted a Clinton electoral victory. Everyone.

47. You are right. Almost everybody at DU was absolutely certain that Clinton would win.

55. Sure They Did

16. I imagine you have well thought out plans to deal with this in case it comes to pass

18. I don't have plans.

21. A person who is really worried will take some kind of action. Making plans and such.

40. You can't plan for a situation with this many variables.

70. There are really only two scenarios

48. If Trump does win again there will be nothing to plan for.

67. One can make definite plans on leaving the country.

71. I guess so, but I don't think I can just pick up and leave the country on a whim.

72. You could certainly move to other parts of the country where people are more like you

73. I live in Nevada which is rapidly becoming a blue state.

19. Negativity generates apathy.

29. Quite

30. It's a stressful time. Everyone wants reassurances. But sky-is-falling posts don't help.

33. ...

41. That's why I'm saying that here.

57. Exactly, this is the one place where we can voice our fears

20. I recommend therapy. Seriously.

22. I fear for the chaos and destruction that lies ahead, but hopeful we will prevail nt

23. 2020 is closest to 1932... utter failure of leadership in a disaster... Gov. attacking the populace

24. Every day I remind myself of just how many people have been hurt by him

25. I think the American people have had just about enough of this clown show

43. I'll settle for a regular old landslide.

51. Can't disgree!

27. Relax on November Fourth

63. Ten points down would be completely demoralizing. Many would give up or just shoot themselves.

28. "I am an old man," wrote Mark Twain near the end of his life. . . .

44. That's a great quote

50. Despair is very much an occasional human trait . . .

32. You're worried because you're believing a lie about Trump voters in 2016.

74. Thank you for that summary.

34. I think Biden will win a close race

56. Joe doesn't come off as a wonky person

66. I'll be more blunt about it

92. We only need three states actually WI, MI and PA...but it won't be close. A close election won't

35. Trump has proved to everyone,...he is stupid, by saying, "It will go away after 5 people die"

39. YOU ARE WRONG...TRUMP DID NOT FOLLOW THE RULES: RULE ONE..DON'T LIE!!! ESPECIALLY

42. I don't know.

45. We need to vote in massive numbers in November!

46. Maybe you worry too much. n/t

75. Maybe I do.

94. But on the other hand, maybe you don't worry too much.

82. More likely it will be a combination of Secret Service backed

93. They will when President Biden tells them to do exactly that if it comes to this.

58. Trump is going to get CRUSHED! GOP will be walloped much worse than 2018!