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Sun Jul 26, 2020, 01:41 PM

THESE GUYS ARE IN TOTALLY OVER THEIR HEADS": EXPERTS WORRY TRUMP'S DHS CRACKDOWNS ARE IGNORING THE

REAL THREAT

As Trump wages war on the left, and threatens to send more federal agents to U.S. cities, far-right, white nationalist extremists seem to get a free pass. “It’s an abuse of power,” says one former DHS analyst.

BY ABIGAIL TRACY at Vanity Fair

JULY 24, 2020

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/07/donald-trump-dhs-portland-protests

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When Donald Trump and the Department of Homeland Security dispatched heavily armed federal troops to patrol the streets of Portland, Oregon—where, as in many cities across the country, protests against the police killing of George Floyd are ongoing—the reaction was swift and largely predictable. Allies of the president hailed the strong-arm tactics as an appropriate response to “the violent left.” Critics saw the deployment as a bald-faced political ploy. “It’s clear that these guys are in totally over their heads at this point and that there is no plan beyond ‘law and order,’” a former high-ranking DHS official told me.

Former officials have been vocal about their horror at the weaponization of the agency under Trump and acting secretary Chad Wolf. Experts I spoke with were similarly alarmed, and not only at the deployment of a force that acts as the president’s own secret police. What struck them was the fact that Trump’s response to peaceful protesters comes at the expense of his attention to a far more serious threat: the rise of homegrown white nationalist extremism. “I think that [Customs and Border Protection] is being used by the president for political purposes,” said Daryl Johnson, a former senior analyst at DHS. “Homeland security, as well as the president and his administration, have turned a blind eye year after year to this growing threat of white supremacy and anti-government extremism. And yet within two months of protests erupting, they’ve got this plan of action that’s very aggressive…it’s an abuse of power, an overreaction to one type of threat, and yet they downplay and hide from the threat of violence from the far right.”

Under the Trump administration, in other words, violent threats themselves have become politicized. “Just as we have seen in the public’s response and understanding of the pandemic, which seems to be influenced or informed by what political party you belong to, the same applies to these types of threats,” said John Cohen, the former deputy undersecretary for intelligence and analysis at DHS. “We have become so politically divided as a nation that it has actually undermined our ability to deal with emerging threats because of the way people interpret information, the way people understand potential threats in large part is driven by the political party that you support.”

Trump’s history of trafficking in white supremacist tropes is well-documented. As I reported last year, his rhetoric has been so extreme that a number of attorneys have relied on the Trump Defense, as it were, to argue in court that words from the Oval Office radicalized their clients. As it has become increasingly tethered to Trump, the rank and file of the Republican Party appears to be taking its cues from the top; a critical mass of GOP lawmakers and candidates have echoed—if in a diluted form—a racist conspiracy theory dubbed “the Great Replacement,” which falsely claims that white people are being “replaced.” “The rhetoric and policy priorities for many on the far right…have been incorporated into the mainstream political discourse. And when they hear from the president of the United States, and from his supporters in the media and on Capitol Hill, support for policies that they have advocated for, they derive a sense of validation,” said Cohen. “They believe that they have support at the highest levels of our government.”

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applegrove Jul 26 OP
Wellstone ruled Jul 26 #1
blueinredohio Jul 26 #2
Budi Jul 26 #3
BComplex Jul 26 #4
ancianita Jul 26 #5
Evolve Dammit Jul 26 #7
ancianita Jul 26 #18
Eyeball_Kid Jul 26 #6
llashram Jul 26 #8
JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 26 #9
BlueIdaho Jul 26 #12
ProfessorGAC Jul 26 #13
Ligyron Jul 27 #19
erronis Jul 26 #10
AllaN01Bear Jul 26 #14
Mr.Bill Jul 26 #11
flibbitygiblets Jul 26 #16
calimary Jul 28 #20
MRDAWG Jul 26 #15
SkyDaddy7 Jul 26 #17

Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 01:44 PM

1. Waiting for all the

personal Lawsuits to be filed for Injury and violation of Personal Rights.

As a retired Federal Attorney said,flood the courts.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 01:51 PM

2. Something needs to be done before people are killed.

This shit can be called out all day and I don't know who can do but it needs to be stopped. We can't ho on like this until January.

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Response to blueinredohio (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 02:21 PM

3. This. Who can stop it ..now.

"This shit can be called out all day and I don't know who can do but it needs to be stopped"

If the plan all along was to break the American people thru mass death & personal ability to work, earn a living, move about, raise their families & build a community, while remaining he, himself untouchable, then yes he has succeeded beyond our most far reaching fears.

He will not stop the carnage on American soil until a greater force steps forward.


What & where is our last resort?
Our military?
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You promised to “defend the Constitution” against “all enemies, foreign and domestic.” Now what?
By Orin Kerr
Contributor, The Volokh Conspiracy
January 12, 2015 at 11:22 PM EST

Article VI of the Constitution requires Officials to take an oath “to support this Constitution.” Today, 5 U.S.C. 3331 specifies the language of the oath for federal officials. According to this statute, officials must “solemnly swear (or affirm)” that they “will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic” and that they “will bear true faith and allegiance to the same.”
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What am I missing here?

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 02:24 PM

4. The good news in all of this is that someone has noticed, about the white supremacists given a free

pass. There is definitely a double standard for all of this, and that is dangerous, and strictly political.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 02:54 PM

5. The last thing media will say is DHS has made itself a national security threat to the United States

DHS has chosen to abandon THIS:

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Response to ancianita (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 03:06 PM

7. "...and our values." I don't think we share the same "values" anymore. Who wrote this?

It is just a slogan and of course total horsepucky as DHS has screwed up and lied since the "terrorist" warning system and telling everyone to put plastic sheeting on their windows. Then there was Katrina... "Integrity"?" "Safeguarding" who? Rich white people is my answer to both questions. I sincerely wish it were otherwise, but it's pretty clear at this point. Thanks W.

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #7)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 05:24 PM

18. I don't know who wrote it, but it's on a google images page for the dhs.gov home page.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 03:00 PM

6. TRUMP WANTS RIOTS!

Don't let him. Stay disciplined when you protest.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 03:08 PM

8. this

any rational person with critical thinking skills not destroyed by fox news, trump disinformation, lies and blatant racism can see what's going on with all the federal troops. The resident at 1600 is preparing for total war on the American people when he loses the election or if by some outside chance he is still at 1600 after Jan 20th, 2021 he has his troops in place to TRY to quell the unrest at his fraudulent victory.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 03:22 PM

9. How did we manage before GWB created the Dept of Homeland Security?

I hope we find out, after Prez Biden dissolves it. And bans the word "homeland".

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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #9)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 03:58 PM

12. DHS was always a dangerous unAmerican idea

As it’s being used now, it’s downright unconstitutional...

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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #9)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 04:01 PM

13. 100% With You

Terrible idea, terrible name, and a superfluous function.

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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #9)

Mon Jul 27, 2020, 08:54 AM

19. Department of Homeland Security

Just the name screams Nativism and 1940's Nazi Germany.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 03:29 PM

10. The DHS was created because W's friends in Saudi Arabia cooperated by attacking the WTC.

The Saudis are still free. No repercussions.

W is still acting like an idiot and actually being compared favorably to this latest (r)epuglicon monstrosity.

The RWers got their "Homeland" agency which has run amok.

The US people are being shafted and a large percentage think that's just fine.

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Response to erronis (Reply #10)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 04:32 PM

14. late friend of mine said that we will regret signing the patriots act and it will come back to haunt

us. it is now .

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 03:44 PM

11. This is all pointed at the election.

Trump is repeating constantly about mail in ballots equaling voter fraud. I fear the end game is in the middle of the night when the votes are being counted, federal thugs show up armed to the teeth at you local Registrar of Voters office and confiscating mail in ballots. And they know exactly where in the country they will need to do this to assure a Trump victory. And the Trumpanzees will cheer for them.

A month ago nobody would have believed this, but it's getting real now, isn't it?

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #11)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 04:48 PM

16. Yup👆 They know Biden will win in a landslide, if voting is not suppressed

These are just beta tests, getting ramped up stripping US citizens of their rights.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #11)

Tue Jul 28, 2020, 10:59 AM

20. Yep. He'll do anything to compromise the election.

The illegitimately “elected” “president” will try to render the next election illegitimate to give himself cover if he loses.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 04:41 PM

15. These Storm Trumpers are committing crimes and......

should be arrested by Portland police.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 05:18 PM

17. DAMN!!!

"...(Trump's) his rhetoric has been so extreme that a number of attorneys have relied on the Trump Defense, as it were, to argue in court that words from the Oval Office radicalized their clients."

...This deranged, corrupt, racist egomaniac continues to not only get away with every law HE BREAKS but also all the law breaking, violence, mayhem & death he inspires so many others to do! Not to mention all the chaos, suffering & death his arrogant incompetence has caused around the world & especially here at home!!

...I sooooo wished my mind allowed me to believe in the super natural wishful thinking ideas such as "KARMA" & "HELL" & every other idea reserved for monsters like Trump!! TRUE SCUM like Trump who get to live a life of luxury & instead of being thankful run through the world as he & others like him do, despite the evil they do, the amount of chaos, suffering & death they leave in their wake they will die of old age NEVER paying a JUST PRICE for their crimes against humanity!

...SUX!!!

...There is still time so maybe Trump meets his doom in a way that is somehow "justice"...We will see.

...Im gonna go watch some kitty cat videos on YouTube.

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