Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:36 PM
Stinky The Clown (63,010 posts)
Fascism on MSNBC
I have had it on most of the afternoon in my office and again in the house. While it has not been THE story, it has been addressed, head on, as a conversation.
Every show had a segment on it. Every show said the US is on the road to fascism. No one was using weasel words. Am I overthinking what I heard or did you hear it, too?
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26 replies, 3554 views
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| Stinky The Clown | Jul 2020 | OP | |
| I_UndergroundPanther | Jul 2020 | #1 | |
| TreasonousBastard | Jul 2020 | #2 | |
| Hekate | Jul 2020 | #3 | |
| BigmanPigman | Jul 2020 | #4 | |
| smirkymonkey | Jul 2020 | #19 | |
| BigmanPigman | Jul 2020 | #20 | |
| smirkymonkey | Jul 2020 | #21 | |
| BigmanPigman | Jul 2020 | #22 | |
| sop | Jul 2020 | #5 | |
| triron | Jul 2020 | #9 | |
| BamaRefugee | Jul 2020 | #6 | |
| NJCher | Jul 2020 | #11 | |
| cilla4progress | Jul 2020 | #15 | |
| BamaRefugee | Jul 2020 | #18 | |
| SoonerPride | Jul 2020 | #7 | |
| lillypaddle | Jul 2020 | #8 | |
| bucolic_frolic | Jul 2020 | #10 | |
| 2naSalit | Jul 2020 | #12 | |
| PatSeg | Jul 2020 | #13 | |
| triron | Jul 2020 | #25 | |
| PatSeg | Jul 2020 | #26 | |
| UCmeNdc | Jul 2020 | #14 | |
| Mr. Ected | Jul 2020 | #16 | |
| DallasNE | Jul 2020 | #17 | |
| Poiuyt | Jul 2020 | #23 | |
| ananda | Jul 2020 | #24 |
Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:40 PM
I_UndergroundPanther (5,272 posts)
1. I hope what you heard is true . I really do.
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Can't get MSNBC on antenna tv with no web.
Wish I could tho. |
Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:41 PM
TreasonousBastard (37,625 posts)
2. It's all over the place-- TV, radio, print. It's the latest media buzzword.
Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:46 PM
Hekate (67,935 posts)
3. I'm hearing it too. This is as serious as a heart attack, & they are treating it as such...
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This is not going unreported.
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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:57 PM
BigmanPigman (41,446 posts)
4. I have it on all day in the background
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(I secretly keep hoping they'll report he is DEAD, I really don't care how it happens) and the various guests, scholars and reporters are all saying the same thing...FASCISM!
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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #4)
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 03:09 AM
smirkymonkey (58,888 posts)
19. +1000
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From your mouth to god's ears, Bigman. I keep hoping the same thing. I really want this Mofo wiped off the face of the earth. He is absolute poison!
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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #19)
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 03:15 AM
BigmanPigman (41,446 posts)
20. Poison,
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Polonium, I don't care how it happens as long as it happens ASAP! Personally I prefer slow, excruciating pain for him since that would be his Karma, but at this point I just want him to be gone, now.
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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #20)
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 03:18 AM
smirkymonkey (58,888 posts)
21. You have no idea how much I am holding back.
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I hear you!
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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #21)
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 03:22 AM
BigmanPigman (41,446 posts)
22. I have a pretty good idea!
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More and more people are finally saying the same thing we are. I keep hoping someone with experience in these matters can take care of it/him.
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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:58 PM
sop (4,608 posts)
5. Maddow's segment with Timothy Snyder this evening discussed Trump's slide into fascism.
Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 11:08 PM
BamaRefugee (3,255 posts)
6. They're busily "normalizing" it for us. Notice that absolutely NO ONE can offer any ideas on how to
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FIGHT BACK AGAINST IT.
Just the eternal handwringing of the pundit class, who will all amazingly still have good salaries and nice houses while “regular” Americans are rounded up nightly. |
Response to BamaRefugee (Reply #6)
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 11:32 PM
NJCher (25,830 posts)
11. that is not true. It is absolutely not true.
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Numerous times I have heard them say "protests work." Not once, not twice, but all evening long. They talked in detail about massive protests and they traced the history of how large protests have succeeded. This comes from Rachel, from the guests, and from Velshi, the guy who is taking over Lawrence O'Donnell's show tonight.
They have also discussed the ACLU lawsuits against the Federal INDIVIDUALS who are coming in like brownshirts. Au contraire to what you say, they have done an excellent job of telling how people are fighting back and what can be done. One of the guests even told the audience "you have to get out there." Oh, and they talked about Larry Krassner, too. Where do you get this stuff? Don't you actually listen? Why do you post this "oh nothing can be done" crap? Take it elsewhere. We don't need learned helplessness demonstrations around here. |
Response to BamaRefugee (Reply #6)
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 12:38 AM
cilla4progress (16,118 posts)
15. Bingo
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handwringing. Fuck's up with that???
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Response to BamaRefugee (Reply #6)
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 03:01 AM
BamaRefugee (3,255 posts)
18. I cast my first vote in 1970. I was in my first protest in 1969. I've actively participated in all
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Major protests ever since, until this year, due to age and COVID.
I‘ve supported the ACLU. I’ve supported EVERY Democratic candidate since I could vote. I’ve done all that and much more for 50 years. And look where we’re at. I wrote what I wrote about people who get paid lots of money TO TELL US WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW! I just wish someone could tell us, 50 years after my first Vietnam war protest, where I was beaten by the police just like they’re doing on TV NOW, how to win this fucking war against fascism. |
Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 11:15 PM
SoonerPride (9,731 posts)
7. Here's a hint
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It’s been a fascist nation for decades for people of color
Now it’s fascism for the rest of us. I didn’t come to the aid of the blacks because I wasn’t black I didn’t come to the aid of the Mexican kids in cages because I wasn’t Mexican Now they come for me. Too late. |
Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 11:20 PM
lillypaddle (8,569 posts)
8. Yes
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MSNBC and CNN are onto him and his agenda. Not sure how much good it will do, but thank god they are no longer helping to cover it up.
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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 11:32 PM
bucolic_frolic (23,947 posts)
10. Definitely heard it, loud and clear
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Professors of Ivy League institutions who've written books on fascism. This is front and center the topic right now. He can't be allowed to divert attention from all his errors with fascist armies used against Americans.
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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)
Fri Jul 24, 2020, 11:37 PM
2naSalit (49,096 posts)
12. They are telling us...
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flat out that this is the real deal, don't miss opportunities to fight back, NOW.
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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 12:01 AM
PatSeg (37,522 posts)
13. Yep, no more subtle euphemisms
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People are outright calling the Trump administration fascist and Trump a dictator wannabe. I think there is a sense of urgency, that we don't have time to play nice and civil. Our worst nightmares are becoming reality right in front of our faces. Anyone who has the slightest sense of history, knows how quickly a democracy can be destroyed. It has been happening all over the world.
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Response to PatSeg (Reply #13)
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 12:09 PM
triron (19,137 posts)
25. We don't have time now and we didn't for the last 3 1/2 years but MSNBC was asleep.
Response to triron (Reply #25)
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 01:40 PM
PatSeg (37,522 posts)
26. Yes, some people wake up later than others
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Of course, MSNBC was one of many news outlets partially responsible for giving Trump nonstop media coverage throughout the campaign, while promoting the Hillary's emails story. What other presidential candidate in history had almost every political rally broadcast live? They were handing him the presidency for free.
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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 12:09 AM
UCmeNdc (8,285 posts)
14. Trump is leading the US toward becoming a Trump empire.
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Trump will do anything to remain in power.
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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 12:39 AM
Mr. Ected (7,222 posts)
16. Well, if the media's stoking the fascism angle
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They must have ulterior motives. They've dodged every opportunity to connect the dots. When Barr shut down Mueller. When Mitch shut down impeachment. When Trump shut down public health.
Frankly, I think the national media has been complicit in a major cover-up, so why "fascism bad", why now? |
Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 01:24 AM
DallasNE (6,501 posts)
17. Follow Up Question
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How do you stop it from happening? It has been obvious that we have been heading in this direction ever since the Senate voted to acquit impeachment even though the evidence was overwhelming that the crime was committed. That is when the rule of law broke down. There is no do over. Every Senate Republican except Romney should be voted out of office the next time they run.
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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 10:23 AM
Poiuyt (15,625 posts)
23. Madeleine Albright with Ali Velshi discussing fascism in America a few days ago
Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)
Sat Jul 25, 2020, 10:25 AM
ananda (24,054 posts)
24. This is rich!
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Considering that MSNBC has been part of the problem
for the last 20 years. |

