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Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:01 PM

Almost 80,000 new cases today

77,991 to be exact. This is a record.

We also have 1,134 reported deaths today.

To put things into perspective, South Korea reported 41 new cases today and 1 new death.

South Korea and the US reported their first coronavirus case on the same day.

The United States of America is a failed nation.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

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Response to SouthernCal_Dem (Original post)

Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:13 PM

1. There were a few days when there were 1000 deaths a day in New York state alone:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/new-york/

scroll down to the last graph on the link and it shows it.

The doctors are getting better at treating the virus and more people are surviving because they understand the virus a little better. It should never have gotten to where we are.

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Response to SouthernCal_Dem (Original post)

Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:16 PM

2. every day I look at this site...

https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en
I am amazed at how many deaths occur in blue states. The percentage is so much higher, than in red states. And we've been wearing masks, and have access to health care. Weird.

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Response to stillcool (Reply #2)

Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:19 PM

3. Reds states have been cooking the books. Believe them at your peril. nt

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #3)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 01:50 PM

12. Cooking the books. Exactly.

In Arizona, we're in dire straits. We have the refrigerated trucks in Maricopa County (Phoenix and surrounding suburbs; half the population of the entire state) because the morgues here are full.

Do not believe for one second the bullshit map shown on CNN where Arizona suddenly turned green as if our cases somehow magically started declining. What a joke. Two weeks ago, we had the highest infection rate in the whole world based on test results from one site provided for 4.5 million people where you have to wait in line in your car for 8-12 hours just to get swabbed.

Once the abysmal state of affairs here hit the national news, our Rethug "governor," Douchebag Ducey, started shutting down the numbers. One of only two labs doing the testing here suddenly stopped reporting anything and the other developed a two-week delay before those getting tested are allowed to see results.

Funny how Arizona on CNN's map turned white for several days, indicating no data provided, and then all of a sudden it changed to green with no questions asked. There's no national reporting of either the testing fiasco going on here or about how doctors and medical examiners have now switched to classifying "cause of death" for COVID-19 patients to that of pneumonia, influenza, cardiac arrest, etc.---basically any condition developed as a result of the virus that can then be blamed. In that way, these patients no longer get counted as COVID-19 deaths.

Meanwhile, our hospitals have been ordered by Douchebag to institute a system of death panel score cards for acceptance of COVID-19 patients, essentially prioritizing which lives are to be saved and which to turn away from the hospitals so as to avoid headlines indicating hospitals at 100% capacity. Also, by dying at home, anyone turned away from the hospitals will not be counted in Arizona's COVID-19 death count.

I know two persons with the virus who were air-vacced to hospitals out of state (one to Vegas, the other to Albuquerque) because they couldn't get into an ICU here because their death probability score was too high. Let that sink in for a moment: "You're likely to die and we can't have you adding to our coronavirus death toll, so you have to go home to die---unless, of course, you happen to have a health insurance plan that will cover air vaccing you out of state."

I'm guessing most don't have premium health insurance that will cover air ambulatory service, and the cost of paying for such on one's own is prohibitive. I have an infected neighbor who's in that exact situation. She's pretty sick and tested positive weeks ago. Her health insurance doesn't cover a regular ambulance ride in a vehicle, let alone air vac. The first time she went to the hospital, she was turned away because she wasn't sick enough. The second time she went to the hospital, she was turned away because she was too sick and, oh yeah, she's on the wrong end of Douchebag's death panel scoring system.

I call her multiple times a day because she lives alone and has no family here. She's scared out of her mind. We're leaving prepared dishes for her on her porch because she's getting so weak she can't stand up for long to cook. This is all just so heartbreaking.

And this is exactly how Rethug governors cook the books when it comes to hiding what's going on with the pandemic in their states. As for my state, once again Arizona Rethugs have proven that no one is going to take away their #1 trifecta trophy for excellency in corruption, greed, and downright evilness.

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Response to PandoraAwakened (Reply #12)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 08:06 PM

13. DeSantis is also playing the "cause of death" game with COVID19 deaths in Florida.

They are being classified as something else, same as Arizona. So if a person dies from a stroke brought on by COVID19, the death is classified as death from a stroke, not death due to COVID19. What those thugs get to say is them rushing to open their states without needed precautions made no difference, good or bad.

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Response to stillcool (Reply #2)

Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:23 PM

4. Many deaths occurred early on in places like New York

We weren't as good at treating coronavirus patients then as we are now.

Places like New York and Italy really suffered early on because we didn't know nearly as much about how to treat the patients.

Also, red states like Florida fudge their numbers.

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Response to SouthernCal_Dem (Reply #4)

Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:46 PM

10. i guess red States have more advanced...

medical facilities than blue states. It isn't just Florida vs.. New York...it's across the board.

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Response to stillcool (Reply #10)

Fri Jul 24, 2020, 10:52 PM

11. I think you misunderstood

New York and other places like Italy experienced the outbreak first. At that time, we didn't know as much about coronavirus and how to treat it. Now we know more so doctors are better able to treat extremely sick patients. There are also drug treatments now which weren't available back then.

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Response to stillcool (Reply #10)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 08:07 PM

14. Are you serious? nt

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #14)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 09:07 PM

17. no..but it would be a likely conclusion..

and it was interesting to dangle. People toss numbers around, and it's just like votes. The number is the number regardless of the fact that it is known to be inaccurate. It bothers me that it bothers me.
The numbers are never accurate, but no one told me.

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Response to SouthernCal_Dem (Reply #4)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 08:42 PM

16. I theorize they weren't early the case load for NY peaked in late Fed and the hospitalizations...

... hit hard fast at once at the end of March beginning of April then 3 weeks later the deaths started rolling in steady in part because of capacity in hospitals.

The same will start happening in TX / FL / CA without high level SIP order in all 3 states to stop mobility, they're can't be a gradual flat curve in those states it has to be immediate and full for it to take effect a month from now.

Masks will slow transmission in areas that have gone nuclear in spread but not stop it like it had to be done in NY and Europe.

We're in for some hurt in those states

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Response to SouthernCal_Dem (Original post)

Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:31 PM

5. 1205 deaths just 2 days ago.

1166 yesterday, 1165 on Tuesday.

(i.e. they've been up all week, aside from Monday, and today is actually the lowest # of deaths since Monday)

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Response to Ms. Toad (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:34 PM

6. Ah yes...you're correct

We did have more deaths earlier this week.

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Response to SouthernCal_Dem (Reply #6)

Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:37 PM

7. I've been keeping - and updating daily - a spreadsheet with cases & deaths.

The average number of deaths this week (so far) is 1040. Two days left to go this week, so it will drop some (since they are weekend days).

But last week's final average was 791.

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Response to SouthernCal_Dem (Original post)

Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:45 PM

8. The United States will need a scene from the movie 'Elysium' soon...

With a fleet of android medical teams and medical ships dispatched to the country.

So much for making America great again, thanks to republicans.

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Response to WyattKansas (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 24, 2020, 09:48 PM

9. +1. I've thought about posting 'Elysium' & 'Contagion'

again, maybe I will.

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Response to SouthernCal_Dem (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 08:34 PM

15. no, I was wishing I was wrong in thinking the cases going down in FL & TX was because of backlog and

... back ups vs lowering spread.

damn

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