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Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:52 PM

tRump goes full on Dictator - Consults Attorney to Rule by Decree


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The Trump administration has been consulting the former government lawyer who wrote the legal justification for waterboarding on how the president might try to rule by decree.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/20/trump-john-yoo-lawyer-torture-waterboarding

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Reply tRump goes full on Dictator - Consults Attorney to Rule by Decree (Original post)
NoRoadUntravelled Jul 20 OP
no_hypocrisy Jul 20 #1
NoRoadUntravelled Jul 20 #2
SoonerPride Jul 20 #4
triron Jul 20 #10
SoonerPride Jul 20 #12
Mr.Bill Jul 20 #27
I_UndergroundPanther Jul 20 #35
hadEnuf Jul 20 #39
I_UndergroundPanther Jul 20 #40
hadEnuf Jul 20 #49
bdamomma Jul 20 #45
stillcool Jul 20 #3
Bettie Jul 20 #5
NoRoadUntravelled Jul 20 #7
Bettie Jul 20 #8
triron Jul 20 #11
Bettie Jul 20 #14
NoRoadUntravelled Jul 20 #21
Ferrets are Cool Jul 20 #37
I_UndergroundPanther Jul 20 #42
NoRoadUntravelled Jul 20 #23
hamsterjill Jul 20 #51
RestoreAmerica2020 Jul 20 #25
Laelth Jul 20 #6
Liberal In Texas Jul 20 #9
roamer65 Jul 20 #13
bdamomma Jul 20 #46
triron Jul 20 #15
NoRoadUntravelled Jul 20 #16
Alex4Martinez Jul 20 #17
Mike 03 Jul 20 #18
Mike 03 Jul 20 #19
Mike 03 Jul 20 #20
NoRoadUntravelled Jul 20 #22
OMGWTF Jul 20 #34
bdamomma Jul 20 #47
bucolic_frolic Jul 20 #24
onetexan Jul 20 #26
herding cats Jul 20 #28
muntrv Jul 20 #29
triron Jul 20 #50
Mr.Bill Jul 20 #30
warmfeet Jul 20 #31
MacKasey Jul 20 #32
ffr Jul 20 #33
keithbvadu2 Jul 20 #36
VMA131Marine Jul 20 #38
superpatriotman Jul 20 #41
I_UndergroundPanther Jul 20 #43
bdamomma Jul 20 #48
Solly Mack Jul 20 #44

Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:56 PM

1. Uh oh, here comes another Enabling Act.

The Enabling Act (German: Ermächtigungsgesetz) of 1933, formally titled Gesetz zur Behebung der Not von Volk und Reich ("Law to Remedy the Distress of People and Reich" ) , [1] was a law that gave the German Cabinet—in effect, the Chancellor—the power to enact laws without the involvement of the Reichstag, and to override fundamental aspects of the Weimar Constitution.[2] The Enabling Act gave Hitler plenary powers and followed on the heels of the Reichstag Fire Decree, which had abolished most civil liberties and transferred state powers to the Reich government. The combined effect of the two laws was to transform Hitler's government into a legal dictatorship.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act_of_1933

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:58 PM

2. We're watching history repeat itself. How do we stop this if there's no one left in power

who's willing to go against him?

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:00 PM

4. The only way to stop it is with violence.

If voting doesn’t work

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Response to SoonerPride (Reply #4)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:10 PM

10. The people need to rise up. But wil they?

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Response to triron (Reply #10)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:14 PM

12. No

I doubt it

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Response to SoonerPride (Reply #4)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:05 PM

27. A general strike would get their attention. n/t

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Response to SoonerPride (Reply #4)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:32 PM

35. I agree

When justice is gone
There is only force.

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Response to I_UndergroundPanther (Reply #35)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:08 PM

39. Dems need to buy guns and learn how to use them.

This has been coming for long, long time.

A lot of good people have tried to stop the madness but the writing is now on the wall, front and center.

We need to be ready to defend ourselves and possibly our freedom.

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Response to hadEnuf (Reply #39)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:17 PM

40. I probably won't be able to get a gun.

Can't hit the broadside of a barn. Took me an hour to plink a can..lol.

I'm more of a hands on fighter, I guess. And I am really good at throwing knives. Rusty a bit tho.

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Response to I_UndergroundPanther (Reply #40)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:57 PM

49. That will do just fine.

These armed thugs think they can enforce their will on anybody they want, any time they want.

They need to know that is not the case at all.

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Response to SoonerPride (Reply #4)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:31 PM

45. full out

uprising, let's see how fast he runs to that bunker.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:00 PM

3. Trump Administration.

My money is on William effing Barr

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:01 PM

5. Of course

how many more days to November 4th? It feels like this year has been SO long.

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Response to Bettie (Reply #5)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:07 PM

7. Will we last that long?

He says he's sending the same type of law enforcement to NY, NJ, Detroit and other cities that are now in Portland kidnapping protesters and taking them away in unmarked vans.
Trump's thugs beat up a Navy veteran yesterday just because he tried to talk to them.

Edited because I had NY on there twice.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:08 PM

8. We have to last that long

there appears to be literally NOTHING anyone can do to curb him in any way.

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Response to Bettie (Reply #8)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:12 PM

11. Yes there is but no one does anything. I'm flabbergasted (or at least I used to be).

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Response to triron (Reply #11)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:15 PM

14. We now can see that our system only works

as long as everyone agrees that laws are a thing.

Only one side believes that these days.

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Response to Bettie (Reply #14)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:48 PM

21. You're right

and we're viewed as the enemy.

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Response to Bettie (Reply #14)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:40 PM

37. This may be the most important post of the day

OUR SYSTEM ONLY WORKS IF EVERYONE AGREES THAT LAWS ARE A THING!!!!!

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Reply #37)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:21 PM

42. That's why

I say we have to divorce sociopaths narcissists and authoritarians from power.

They automatically believe laws are for everyone else.

For example if Karen having a tantrum hit someone ,Why not just knock her the fuck out.
Make sure someone is videoing the altercation..Fucking narcissists gotta go...AWAY.

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Response to triron (Reply #11)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:52 PM

23. I know what you mean. Every step that's been taken is worse than the last.

We're not surprise any longer but what he does.

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Response to triron (Reply #11)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 11:18 PM

51. Me, too.

I can’t believe there hasn’t already been an uprising.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:05 PM

6. k&r for visibility. n/t

-Laelth

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:10 PM

9. His signing statements are pretty much that now.

I thought we had to have a legislative body make laws, not some exec. with a power complex.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:15 PM

13. "The tree of liberty from time to time must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

- Thomas Jefferson

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #13)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:33 PM

46. exactly.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:15 PM

15. Send this to Rachel!

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Response to triron (Reply #15)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:16 PM

16. Thanks! I will do that now.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:25 PM

17. This should be at the top of the DU greatest page, so important. nt K/R

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Response to Alex4Martinez (Reply #17)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:28 PM

18. Yes.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:30 PM

19. ...

John Yoo told the Guardian he has been talking to White House officials about his view that a recent supreme court ruling on immigration would allow Trump to issue executive orders on whether to apply existing federal laws.

“If the court really believes what it just did, then it just handed President Trump a great deal of power, too,” Yoo, a professor at Berkeley Law, said.

“The supreme court has said President Obama could [choose not to] enforce immigration laws for about 2 million cases. And why can’t the Trump administration do something similar with immigration – create its own … program, but it could do it in areas beyond that, like healthcare, tax policy, criminal justice, inner city policy. I talked to them a fair amount about cities, because of the disorder.”

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Response to Mike 03 (Reply #19)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:32 PM

20. ...

And why can’t the Trump administration do something similar with immigration – create its own … program, but it could do it in areas beyond that, like healthcare, tax policy, criminal justice, inner city policy. I talked to them a fair amount about cities, because of the disorder.

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Response to Mike 03 (Reply #20)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:50 PM

22. This is very disturbing.

No one is willing to stop him. The VP backs him completely. He must believe the destruction of America will bring about the second coming.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Reply #22)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:26 PM

34. There are a disturbing number of religious nutz in Shitler's administration.

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Response to OMGWTF (Reply #34)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:35 PM

47. Pompeo

is a religious wing nut.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 07:47 PM

24. Decree? Like "No Elections in 2020!"?

Yeah Trump will always go for more power

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 07:53 PM

26. LOL this is so pathetic its sick

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:06 PM

28. The problem here is, the SC won't be able to rule on this before 11-3-2020

He knows this and he's reaching. Let's hope our lower courts hold.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:08 PM

29. Operation Valkyrie as an answer to the Enabling Act?

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Response to muntrv (Reply #29)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 10:16 PM

50. Maybe.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:08 PM

30. Nancy Pelosi should get articles of impeachment to the Senate as quickly as possible.

If nothing else, make these republican pigs vote to continue this bullshit right before the election.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:12 PM

31. Removal by vote, not decree.

November 3rd.

Might want to jot that date down for reference.

This fucker is going down. Let us all make it so.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:20 PM

32. John Yoo should be considered a War criminal

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:22 PM

33. His paranoia gets worse by the day.

And every day we're one day closer to the day that this trespasser will be removed from the White House.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:39 PM

36. Trump never wanted to govern or lead... He wants to rule.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:59 PM

38. There is a difference between what President Obama did

with DACA and what Trump seems to proposing to do.
The Obama Administration wasn’t refusing to enforce immigration law. DACA acknowledged that there were too many undocumented immigrants for the system to handle. Therefore in enforcing the law it was explicitly going to focus deportation efforts on people who posed a threat because of criminal convictions or other issues which would ordinarily make them ineligible to attain legal immigrant status. DACA was a way to manage a class of undocumented immigrants and give them an official status until immigration law caught up to their status and gave them a path to permanent resident status and eventually citizenship.

What the Trump Administration seems to be trying to do is enact new law by executive fiat. He might be able to further eviscerate the Affordable Care Act through this method but it’s hard to see how any but the most Trumpist jurist goes along with him creating new law out of thin air.

And John Yoo is a hack who should have been prosecuted for war crimes.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:20 PM

41. No need for Congress any more

Or the courts...

I’ve been screaming this here for years. Too many pollyannas.

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Response to superpatriotman (Reply #41)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:25 PM

43. Me too.

Time for Dems to grow huge fangs and terrible claws and eviserate the republican criminals.

Use the airtime to rip them new assholes and tell the truth of what's going on. Take over the damn narrative. Expose the secrets let it be known the well being and general welfare of the people matter.

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Response to superpatriotman (Reply #41)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:49 PM

48. He wants to make Congress

irrelevant. He is following Putin's lead/playbook.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:28 PM

44. If only...

Oh, well.

I want to be snarky and smug about what comes from not prosecuting war criminals but it's all so pointless now.

So very pointless.


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