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sunonmars Jul 2020 OP
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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:40 PM

1. Like somebody said on Twitter,

the American spirit at work.

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Response to grumpyduck (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 07:08 PM

29. I also read they would put traffic cones over the cannisters n/t

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Response to Bev54 (Reply #29)

Tue Jul 21, 2020, 01:24 PM

66. Good idea. Seems other things may work as well.

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Response to triron (Reply #66)

Tue Jul 21, 2020, 02:24 PM

68. Seems like old blankets would work as well.

nt

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Response to grumpyduck (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 21, 2020, 11:56 AM

63. +1000

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:41 PM

2. Yes!

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:41 PM

3. Good for them!

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:44 PM

4. Yup. And a guy had a hockey stick to hit the gas canisters away from protesters.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:46 PM

5. I think they are using the Hong Kong tactic.

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Response to LiberalArkie (Reply #5)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:52 PM

9. I did not see this before posting my comment.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:47 PM

6. Protesters in Hong Kong were doing that.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #6)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 11:43 PM

53. Good! We all need to learn from each other. These are desperate days. nt

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:48 PM

7. If I owned a leaf blower I would lend it to the cause!

This makes me proud to be an American and a Portlander!!!

KEEP PORTLAND WEIRD.

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Response to Mme. Defarge (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:42 PM

26. Do I still have to get a passport and rent a VW Microbus to visit.

I don't want to be breaking the law.

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Response to plimsoll (Reply #26)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 07:52 PM

35. No, a Subaru

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:51 PM

8. I'd be willing to contribute to a GoFundMe

to buy them rocket launchers to use

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Response to SoCalNative (Reply #8)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:54 PM

10. Me too.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 05:56 PM

11. YES!! I saw that suggested a few days ago and thought "Brilliant!"

What a great, creative solution!

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:00 PM

12. How long before blowers become illegal

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Response to Fullduplexxx (Reply #12)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:02 PM

15. Nah, the gestapo will just

say "It looked like a gun, I was afraid, so they're dead".

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:00 PM

13. AWESOME!

I fully support these protesters against these Gestapos!!!!!!!

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:01 PM

14. Good for them...

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:02 PM

16. This makes my day!

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:02 PM

17. Hand salute, protesters.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:03 PM

18. Leaf blowers and hockey sticks on video....

(second video, below)



Text:
Erica Lynn @SurfingBlue2020

Protesters in Portland are using leaf blowers to blow the tear gas cans back at the gestapo.

3:15 AM ∑ Jul 20, 2020



Leaf blower graphic....



KY........

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #18)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:06 PM

19. PDX Dads!!!

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #18)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:19 PM

21. Bravo Portlanders!

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #18)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:14 PM

40. The antifa leaf blower violence against the gas is too unbearable. Free citizens must be stopped.

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Response to ffr (Reply #40)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:26 PM

43. They better watch out - Trump will send in Weed Eaters!

KY.........

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Response to ffr (Reply #40)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:36 PM

46. The AntLifa Blower...someone needs to copyright this

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Reply #46)

Tue Jul 21, 2020, 02:35 AM

56. You got dibs.

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #18)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 11:44 PM

54. "This machine kills fascists"

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Response to DBoon (Reply #54)

Tue Jul 21, 2020, 12:41 AM

55. Thanks! Is that Woody?

I noticed the Portland protesters have music performed regularly along with lots of food in the park.

KY

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #55)

Tue Jul 21, 2020, 09:42 PM

78. Yes, it is Woody

Someone should Photoshop this so he is carrying a leaf blower with the same slogan on it

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Response to DBoon (Reply #78)

Tue Jul 21, 2020, 09:55 PM

79. That's a brilliant idea and would be so symbolic of Portland.

KY

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Response to DBoon (Reply #54)

Tue Jul 21, 2020, 10:34 PM

81. Origin?

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Response to triron (Reply #81)

Tue Jul 21, 2020, 10:46 PM

82. Google images?

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Response to DBoon (Reply #82)

Tue Jul 21, 2020, 11:23 PM

83. Not familiar.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:17 PM

20. Excellent! n/t



-Laelth

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:22 PM

22. Brilliant!

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:24 PM

23. So proud of people in my city. And so glad this is getting national attention.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Reply #23)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:29 PM

24. It is excellent. Resist!

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 06:33 PM

25. Portland and Seattle greenies are major

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 07:01 PM

27. Finally! Leaf blowers are useful for something!

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 07:06 PM

28. Getting Clear on What is Happening at the Nightly Confrontations

As a third generation Portlander who loves her city and who supports BLM and the reconstruction of our police force, I have to ask what we should call these nightly confrontations. Are they anti Trump Administration Fascism or pro BLM or both? Many respected long time Black leaders And clergy have called for an end to violence, saying it is not helping their cause. Our notorious police force needs to be completely reconstructed. What it looks like to me is that now that the Trump Guardia Civil are here, the confrontations are about that: Portland vs. the unlawful use of Border Patrol on the streets of our city. I support this! The nation is watching to see if we will tolerate this fascist more by Trump. We must hold the line for the whole countryís sake.I am proud of the Moms! We should keep up the creative non violence which shows these thugs for who they are and who they represent unlawfully.

Also I worry about the long term economic consequences of this street fighting on our city center.
We have worked long and hard to make it a great and interesting city by good planning, event planning, activity planning and its a great downtown. But it is a downtown that has struggled and is struggling even more with the lack of tourism and a bad rap about our large homeless population. We finally passed a huge levy to help the homeless and things are going to get better, but now COVID and the 52 days of rage are hurting our city. I do not mean that BLM is trivial or to be shunted aside. Indeed we as a city and a state are making rapid progress on ensuring that Black Lives Do Matter! Every time I go downtown to see what is happening I shop or buy a take out dinner to support downtown. The boarded up windows make me sad. I photograph the wonderful murals that are there and I see the empty buildings. I canít go to demonstrations for health reasons but I donate to BLM causes and the ACLU to bring unlawful actors to heel. I just wanted to share my anguish about the city I love.

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Response to McKim (Reply #28)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:12 PM

38. It's trumps border patrol.

I was listening to your mayor. Portland PD are working to de-escalate, and it was working. 45 send his BP goons and it all went to poop.

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Response to McKim (Reply #28)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:35 PM

44. Thanks for sharing. We need to hear your prospective and that of other Portlanders.

Few of us here understand all the storied history behind the Portland movement and every piece of input helps.

I've been searching for sites explaining some of that history and hope to share that as I find it. I found a neat source last night in the Portland Mercury paper and there's much to learn.


KY..........

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #44)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 11:35 PM

51. google "Little Beirut"

Portland's nickname for oh, about sixty years now.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #51)

Tue Jul 21, 2020, 03:27 AM

57. Got it. There's a lot to learn.

When I first read your post, I assumed it meant there's a heavy Lebanese presence in Portland.....

But then I found this...

The nickname "Little Beirut" has stuck to Portland since it was first coined by the staff of former President Bush after violent protests during his visits to Oregon in the early 1990s, and the reputation remains strong.....


From: https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=20030819&slug=protests19e

From Wikipedia's entry on Portland, I see there's quite a history of racism there with the business and political classes but mixed with a strong liberal presence.

KY

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #44)

Tue Jul 21, 2020, 04:19 PM

72. "Willamette Weekly" is good also.

nt

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Response to soldierant (Reply #72)

Tue Jul 21, 2020, 04:52 PM

74. Thank you, it's excellent!

KY..........

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 07:09 PM

30. Very creative of them and the police and feds will have a difficult time claiming leaf blowers

are weapons.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 07:14 PM

31. Oh, I love that!

Fuck the gestapo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Like the fucking pathetic nazis, tiny penis bois, they will rue the day they fuck with us.

I may have violated some rules here with my choice of language. Oh well!

I hate nazis and I don't care who knows it.

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Response to warmfeet (Reply #31)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:09 PM

37. Same here

 

I don't care who the fuck knows I hate Nazis. The originals. Illinois ones. Iowa ones. And Fuckmuppet's brown shirt wearing piece of shit fucksticks.

Anyone who doesn't like my attitude you won't hurt my feelings if you just put me on ignore here on out.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 07:25 PM

32. Hong Kong Lessons

A good review of some of the video out of Hong Kong would be interesting. They used tennis racquets, pot holder mittens, umbrellas, laser pointers and roofing nails/tacks in their defensive plan.

The arrival of 150 agents in Chicago will be interesting as I wonder if the Windy City Po-Po will welcome or hinder the Feds.

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Response to Gilbert Moore (Reply #32)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:23 PM

41. Shitler wants to put that "uppity" mayor in her place.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 07:37 PM

33. I love my leaf blower

I didn't even imagine using it in self defense.

Perhaps I should buy a stronger one.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 07:44 PM

34. Be sure to search for "Gestapo" on Google, YouTube, and Twitter

Make them trend to show Americans are concerned!

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:08 PM

36. omg that's so rich!!

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:12 PM

39. It would only take identifying and shaming one of tRump's gestapo crew

to put names to these constitution breaking goons.

No we will not comply to your orders because you have no authority.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:26 PM

42. Awesome! This is good info for the people in Chicago too

The Orange Gestapo is already planning their next excursion to Chicagoland. They should be there by the weekend according to Chump. Stock up on leafblowers, and have a few hockey sticks handy.


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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:36 PM

45. Leaf blowers. Hockey sticks. Pah! So lightweight.

Use a trebuchet and send 'em flying 500 yards!

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 08:51 PM

47. Here's Bugs Bunny using a leaf blower of sorts. . .

. . .it's what this news make me think of.






#newrostrong

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 09:17 PM

48. Today's well-prepared American protesters

need to arrive on the scene with the following equipment:

Mask against coronavirus

Helmet (bike helmet would do) against gestapo bullets

Goggles or wraparound eyeglasses against tear gas

Umbrella which could double as instrument to block tear gas when fully open, or to push cannisters away when closed.

Hockey stick to knock cannisters away

Leaf blower to blow gas back at the gestapo

A sign, of course, to say what you are protesting

Phone to take videos and stills to post

Ingenuity and courage.

Good job, Portland. The rest of America is watching. Getting ready for our turn. The world is watching, too.

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Response to wnylib (Reply #48)

Tue Jul 21, 2020, 11:54 AM

62. For a second there, I thought I would have to get a bigger purse. Thank goodness

they will all fit.

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Response to niyad (Reply #62)

Tue Jul 21, 2020, 01:04 PM

64. You need a Hermione Granger purse

like the one in Deathly Hallows.

I typed this before reading a twiiter link about Portland in another thread. Several tweets there suggested that people bring similar items with them.

Gotta protect youself from the Amerikan Gestapo.

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Response to wnylib (Reply #64)

Tue Jul 21, 2020, 02:08 PM

67. You are absolutely correct. It would certainly make things much simpler

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Response to wnylib (Reply #64)

Tue Jul 21, 2020, 02:36 PM

69. what is that?

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Response to triron (Reply #69)

Tue Jul 21, 2020, 06:37 PM

75. What is what?

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 10:18 PM

49. Rachel interviewed the Oregon AG tonite.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 11:13 PM

50. knr

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Mon Jul 20, 2020, 11:41 PM

52. Farking brilliant!

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Tue Jul 21, 2020, 05:33 AM

58. This idea comes from Hong Kong

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Tue Jul 21, 2020, 05:49 AM

59. Portland,

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Tue Jul 21, 2020, 08:13 AM

60. Love, love, love this!

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Tue Jul 21, 2020, 10:16 AM

61. Ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

These mercenaries - and I really do believe they're paid goons in the guise of Dept. of Homeland *Security* enforcement, but I truly think that they are quite likely Eric Prince's employees who Barr as contracted with.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Tue Jul 21, 2020, 01:12 PM

65. He wants cities to be TERRORIZED, not ENTERTAINED!


This is some fine kind of Art of War Portlanders are using!

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Tue Jul 21, 2020, 03:00 PM

70. knr

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Tue Jul 21, 2020, 04:14 PM

71. kick again

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Tue Jul 21, 2020, 04:36 PM

73. Germans, In WW1, Learned This Lesson

The second time they used gas, they fired shells into the wind.
The cloud blew back at them, and more German soldiers got incapacitated than British or French.
These protestors are just controlling the wind.
Good idea!

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #73)

Tue Jul 21, 2020, 07:10 PM

76. Thanks for the history lesson.

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Response to triron (Reply #76)

Tue Jul 21, 2020, 07:21 PM

77. One More Note

That event was the reason why both sides switched from chlorine gas to mustard gas (bis(2-chloroethyl) sulfide) & phosgene (COCl2).
These have lower vapor pressure, hydrogen bond to water vapor, so the hang in place and are less susceptible to rapid movement by wind.
They're all really toxic but, as someone who has used phosgene & chlorine as reactants, it's much safer to work with the former. Still in a hood, wearing PPE, including clearing the lab just to carry it through the room. But, easier & safer to work with.
My interest in this whole WW1 thing came from actually working with these dangerous compounds.
Man, what were they thinking?

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Tue Jul 21, 2020, 10:06 PM

80. I love what I'm seeing from Portlandians

I don't think I'll ever get over Naked Athena and her impromptu bodyguards (especially the guy with the shield!!).

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