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PurgedVoter

(2,214 posts)
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 10:06 PM Jul 2020

About the Lincoln Project

Many of us have voiced the concern that the Lincoln Project is doing the right thing but they are the opposition.
This is not only true, but I pray it stays true. We need an opposing party that understand that the country is more important than their party is. There used to be a tradition of reading George Washington's Farewell Address. This tradition disappeared during my lifetime.

One of the warnings that Washington gave was to not put party ahead of the nation. We need an opposing party for our party to remain honest. We need argument and opposition. But we need decent, patriotic opposition and not what we have seen from the Republican party ever since and perhaps before Nixon. If the Lincoln Project keeps to the voice and values they have shown in their videos and statements, I welcome them and wish with all my heart that they will reform the Republican party and give us the opponent that we need. An opponent that fights hard, and fights smart. An opponent that fights for the betterment of our nation, is the opponent we need.

Imagine a day when bipartisan does not mean concessions were made to pay off crooks. Imagine a day where bipartisan means it was thought through and argued with the intent of making our nation and our world a safer and better place.

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About the Lincoln Project (Original Post) PurgedVoter Jul 2020 OP
The concerns are stupid. LP doesn't claim to be anything other than what they are JI7 Jul 2020 #1
No they aren't Sewa Jul 2020 #8
If you are that paranoid then don't donate to them. They have already released things and these JI7 Jul 2020 #10
wake up and smell the coffee Sewa Jul 2020 #11
lol, too obvious JI7 Jul 2020 #12
Take your own advice and quit dragging on those who are Cha Jul 2020 #13
So people can't have a different opinion Sewa Jul 2020 #18
Yes We Can have a different Opinion. Cha Jul 2020 #19
Thank you Sewa Jul 2020 #20
The concerns are based on the lavishing of praise on them from DU. Gore1FL Jul 2020 #15
Nobody forgot anything. THeir whole thing is they are republicans who fucking Hate Trump JI7 Jul 2020 #17
+1000000000000000 betsuni Jul 2020 #21
I am glad they own it. I am glad they are fighting for Biden. Gore1FL Jul 2020 #23
The trash that booed the Democratic nominee in 2016 and other democrats like John Lewis were Fascist JI7 Jul 2020 #24
These guys are good. mjvpi Jul 2020 #26
Opposition to George W. Bush Republicans is literally why DU exists. Gore1FL Jul 2020 #27
Beautiful! I agree. emmaverybo Jul 2020 #2
I don't care what they do after trump is out. tman Jul 2020 #3
Imagine a world where the Lincoln Project becomes the Lincoln Party applegrove Jul 2020 #4
I feel that TLP and Republican Voters Against Trump have ways of reaching republicans that we don't mucifer Jul 2020 #5
Agreed. Even the very happy kingdom of Bhutan knows the importance of opposing viewpoints soothsayer Jul 2020 #6
After witnessing.... quickesst Jul 2020 #7
I fully support The Lincoln Project and what it is attempting to do Progressive Jones Jul 2020 #9
A nation thrives if its leadership has a sane opposition. NNadir Jul 2020 #14
Exactly this. AmericanCanuck Jul 2020 #16
But Lincoln Project is not getting enough publicity Shoonra Jul 2020 #22
People are on the internet more these days JI7 Jul 2020 #25

JI7

(89,239 posts)
1. The concerns are stupid. LP doesn't claim to be anything other than what they are
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 10:08 PM
Jul 2020

I feel like most of the concerned are those who don't want us to win.

Also they aren't asking us to vote for them.

The real concern are people who support Trump.

Sewa

(1,250 posts)
8. No they aren't
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 12:16 AM
Jul 2020

The TLP are playing and exploiting the scared dems. Do you have a guarantee that the donations they are collecting won’t be used against Democratic candidates?

JI7

(89,239 posts)
10. If you are that paranoid then don't donate to them. They have already released things and these
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 12:21 AM
Jul 2020

people have hated Trump for years. They didn't just decide they hated trump now. They never supported him.

BTW we have no gaurantee that people who claim to be democrats, liberals, progressives will not use things against Democrats.

in 2016 trashy people attended the Democratic convention and booed the Democratic nominee and other democrats like John Lewis .

Cha

(296,817 posts)
13. Take your own advice and quit dragging on those who are
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 12:45 AM
Jul 2020

seriously working to get Fascism OUT of OUR WH.

Sewa

(1,250 posts)
18. So people can't have a different opinion
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 12:57 AM
Jul 2020

of the TLP on this site. I thought this was a Democratic site not Republican one.

Gore1FL

(21,098 posts)
15. The concerns are based on the lavishing of praise on them from DU.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 12:51 AM
Jul 2020

People forget these were the some folks we were lambasting until Trump.

Sure, I'll welcome their firepower, but it's good, and apparently all-too-necessary to remind people they can't be trusted. In the end, they may not support Trump, but they created him.

JI7

(89,239 posts)
17. Nobody forgot anything. THeir whole thing is they are republicans who fucking Hate Trump
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 12:54 AM
Jul 2020

The trash at the 2016 Democratic Convention that booed the Democratic nominee and other democrats like John Lewis were more responsible for creating Trump than people who always hated Trump . That trash claimed to be from the left so we know there are frauds everywhere.

But the LP doesn't claim to be liberal or democratic . They don't hide their past.

Gore1FL

(21,098 posts)
23. I am glad they own it. I am glad they are fighting for Biden.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 01:15 AM
Jul 2020

I am sick to death of the anti-left sentiment on DU, though. When we praise those that brought fascism and disdain those who share out values, we are doing it wrong.

JI7

(89,239 posts)
24. The trash that booed the Democratic nominee in 2016 and other democrats like John Lewis were Fascist
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 01:16 AM
Jul 2020

They were the ones who did all they could to help Trump.

They were the ones pushing the Trump lies .

Fuck them .

Gore1FL

(21,098 posts)
27. Opposition to George W. Bush Republicans is literally why DU exists.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 01:37 AM
Jul 2020

They suck. They are not good. They are in no way representative of DU values.

If they want to run anti Trump advertisements and oppose Trump, I am happy to let them. But I won't donate to or praise them. They are the reason we are here. They suck.

tman

(983 posts)
3. I don't care what they do after trump is out.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 10:10 PM
Jul 2020

For now, they are allies in a battle for the sole and the fate of a nation.



applegrove

(118,486 posts)
4. Imagine a world where the Lincoln Project becomes the Lincoln Party
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 10:16 PM
Jul 2020

Last edited Mon Jul 20, 2020, 01:43 AM - Edit history (1)

in the middle. Just like the Liberals have one most often in canada over the last 152 years as there are multiple parties in canada so the center party wins. Now i like the Liberals and politics of all parties in canada are way to the left of parties in the US, but a center right party run by the people running the Lincoln Project would break up the Democratic big tent. That is the republicans only choice because the majority of americans refused to give up their humanity and become white supremacists and republicans then need a new coalition as demographics change for good. A Lincoln Party could run in the center and win the presidency then work with Republicans in the House and Senate. I don't know for sure but these are cold blooded operators who have not woken up from anything. They made the Republican Party the less obvious white supremacist party for decades. Think about it.

mucifer

(23,478 posts)
5. I feel that TLP and Republican Voters Against Trump have ways of reaching republicans that we don't
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 10:21 PM
Jul 2020

I especially like the youtube channel for Republican Voters Against Trump

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC03-Q9vq-JyiStTnqasADVg

It takes you to this video with the words of Ronald Reagan (I hate Reagan BTW) giving his shining city on a hill speech with modern day video images



I don't think a democratic PAC would do that. Plus the testimonials from everyday republicans or former republicans who state in youtube videos why they won't vote for trump this time. Most say they are voting for Biden. Some say they are voting a straight democratic ticket.

I think this is how we win.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
6. Agreed. Even the very happy kingdom of Bhutan knows the importance of opposing viewpoints
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 10:27 PM
Jul 2020

...for a healthy system.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
7. After witnessing....
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 12:09 AM
Jul 2020

.... firsthand what their party or in many cases, former party has become, there will be great effort to see to it that it never happens again. The Lincoln Project has proven the two partys can work together for the greater good.

NNadir

(33,467 posts)
14. A nation thrives if its leadership has a sane opposition.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 12:46 AM
Jul 2020

In this sense, I miss the old Republican party, before it embraced a cult of personality around a racist idiot.

Shoonra

(518 posts)
22. But Lincoln Project is not getting enough publicity
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 01:11 AM
Jul 2020

I've seen the Lincoln Project videos here but not on TV, where they might change some votes.

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