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Fri Jul 10, 2020, 01:33 PM

First time in 60 years I felt true hatred last night,

We have moved to a camper life with our hcp daughter. who is well established in my posts here. Im gonna do long story short.

When we scoped out this campground and loved it. we had some extra time on our weekend trip, so I went to the local golf country club and inquired about fees and such. And that My lil girl would be riding with me from time to time. All good,,contact us when you get here. uhmmm so I did,,


When we moved I went in and paid initiation fee and all,,couple guys in clubhouse,I said Im new,,I'll but your next round,,they took. Then things changed, one guy asked me about my family,so I told him,, his response,, So you have a retard? I told him we dont use that word and I would appreciate if he wouldnt say it again. So he said, "then you are a retard too" So I immediately asked for a refund,,not given.
A month later,,many emails re my refund I decide to call the CC last eve. Oh My,, gal on phone (who was one who took my fee) called me a motherfucker, said I was rude to the guy in clubhouse and why would I even bring a ret**** to this town?

I didnt sleep last night, I never felt hatred like this. MrsK a bit more composed than me, contacted someone who will go to the board of directors at Country Club. I told her ok,,Im selling my golf clubs, I do not want to be around this kind of hate..

I'll sign with a bit of a joke,because Mrs K settled me down

Have a great day from a ret***d Dad and his Re***** Daughter.
Thanks for listening


Koz

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Reply First time in 60 years I felt true hatred last night, (Original post)
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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 01:36 PM

1. Horrible

I hope you find a way to get away from these ugly people.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 01:37 PM

2. I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like more info

on these fine people.

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Response to coti (Reply #2)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:11 PM

27. I can name town and names,,

but as Tess Brother,,the lawyer told me,,dont do it,,not right now.. I wanna blow them outta the water,,,my legal advice,,( my son) says slow down Dad

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Response to kozar (Reply #27)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:16 PM

79. Good. Kick their asses

Drive them out of town and into bankruptcy

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Response to relayerbob (Reply #79)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:19 PM

103. I totally agree...Kick their ass and bankrupt them

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Response to kozar (Reply #27)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 07:37 PM

141. Maybe your lawyer can get help from the Judge David L. Bazelon Center for Mental Health Law

From their page:
The Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) is designed to fully integrate people with disabilities into American life. The Act prohibits discrimination in employment, in the activities of state and local government, and by private businesses.

The ADA protects people with mental disabilities, including people with mental illnesses. The ADA protects people who have a current mental “impairment “or who are discriminated against because they have a history of such impairment or are regarded as having such an impairment.

The ADA attacks discrimination in three ways. First, it prohibits governments and business from treating people differently simply because they have a disability. Second, it requires governments and businesses to make changes to how they operate (“reasonable accommodations”) so that people with disabilities get the same access and the same benefits as other people. Third, the ADA requires that state and local governments deliver services, including mental health services, in “the most integrated setting,” that is, a setting that maximizes independence and participation in community life.

The ADA’s vision of independence and community integration informs all of the Bazelon Center’s work. We collaborate with the federal government and other advocates to ensure that government and businesses comply with the ADA, and we bring or assist in lawsuits that will advance compliance with the ADA.

http://www.bazelon.org/our-work/mental-health-systems/ada/


More about them:
Since 1972, the Judge David L. Bazelon Center for Mental Health Law has advocated for the civil rights, full inclusion and equality of adults and children with mental disabilities. We were pivotal in expanding the civil rights movement to include fighting discrimination against, and segregation of, people with mental disabilities. Today, the Bazelon Center accomplishes its goals through a unique combination of litigation, public policy advocacy, coalition building and leadership, public education, media outreach and technical assistance—a comprehensive approach that ensures we achieve the greatest impact.

We employ cutting-edge litigation to effect progressive systemic change and impact public policy. We secured early legal precedents creating basic civil rights for people with mental disabilities—including the rights to a public education, receive services in community-based settings instead of institutions, and make decisions about one’s own care. The Center was instrumental in the passage of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) (1990) and played a key role in the historic case of Olmstead v. L.C. (1999), in which the Supreme Court found that needless segregation of people with psychiatric disabilities violates the ADA. Over the last decade, we have worked to expand the reach of Olmstead to address not only unnecessary institutionalization in public facilities (psychiatric and criminal justice), but also to remedy segregation in nursing homes, board and care homes, schools and classrooms, sheltered workshops, and other day services. Our Olmstead settlement agreements have provided thousands of individuals with opportunities to move out of segregated, dead-end facilities and to live full lives in their communities. We have set legal precedents defining a national model of comprehensive community-based disability systems.
http://www.bazelon.org/about/who-we-are/


What this club did is illegal under the ADA and they should have their asses kicked hard for it.

I don't blame you for being boiling mad - I would be, too. They need a very strong attitude adjustment and hitting them in the wallet would be a very good start.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 01:37 PM

3. Christ, I'm so sorry your family was treated like that. Hope the CC Board acts properly. Take care.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 01:38 PM

4. How insensitive they were! For crying out loud, what's gotten into people?? Were they always this

way? This country is going to hell in a handbasket if we don't vote BLUE in November. It seems like all the HATERS
have decided they can do and say what they want.....

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Response to secondwind (Reply #4)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:34 PM

82. That's what I thought, too. How thoughtless and cruel people are -

or have allowed themselves to become.

I think it's the trump effect. He made it okay to be "out 'n' proud" with your prejudices and insults and bad ideas and idiot positions and wrong ideas. He's made it okay for the total bastardization of the right to free speech - which now allows any proud, defiant, in-yer-face know-nothing an equal seat at the table with science, truth, and objective provable FACTS.

I guess I don't feel like that much of a free-speech advocate anymore. I think that mindset should be muzzled. I think damaging and false information should NOT be allowed to be aired in public. I don't think it deserves a seat at the table. I think it should be openly decried and denounced and NOT given a microphone or a venue to spout shit. And I'm not sure how that would be accomplished in this country, now. But now we've got separate "world-views" competing for air and light and attention. And they're all given the same level of "legitimacy." Hell, we've got Qanon nuts now running for office, and earning their party's (mainly republi-CON) nomination! There's such a freakazoid here in Oregon running for the US Senate right now, for Pete's sake! Such an individual shouldn't be found anywhere outside a padded cell. And, of course, there's the donald as well...

I'm not sure if we're ever going to be able to climb back up out of this.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 01:39 PM

5. Trump has brought out the sickest pathologies in these people.

You have love in you and in your life.

They need to hate so much-- want to hate so much-- it will destroy their lives.

You'll be happy and loved, and they will die alone and probably pretty soon.

What a great idea, to move to the camper life. It sounds wonderful to have the freedom to move around with daughter and mrs.

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Response to dawg day (Reply #5)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:06 PM

19. From this special education teacher:

Sue the shit out of the CC, and take your story to the local TV news.

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Response to rateyes (Reply #19)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:08 PM

24. This 👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆

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Response to rateyes (Reply #19)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:13 PM

29. I worked in HCP supported living homes for 10 years,,

Had 13 homes under my mgmnt,,3 people per home and staff. 24/7 I was on call always,, I appreciate your efforts to help these people.




Koz

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Response to kozar (Reply #29)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:31 PM

46. My daughter worked at a grocery store, years ago.

One young man wit learning disabilities was hired. He collected the shopping carts from the parking lot, and took them back into the store. He was busy, constantly. One day, he was sick and had to miss a day. Two "normal" employees were joking about him, so my daughter said to them "He may have problems, but it will take BOTH of you to replace him. He works hard, never stops" I loathe people who mock handicapped people. Who do they think they are? Superior beings? All these disgusting people at the CC need to be exposed for what they are.

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Response to Scarsdale (Reply #46)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:10 PM

70. this!!!! nt

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Response to kozar (Reply #70)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:26 PM

110. I would call them back and get them on tape, then hire a good lawyer and sue.

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Response to amywalk (Reply #110)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:30 PM

113. good lawyer is ,

lil Bit's brother,guessing he has a "vested interest" in this as I never heard him talk to me like he did last night,,he told me,,"you post no specifics, you keep your mouth shut. I m gonna do this." welp..its his sister,, wink wink




Koz

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Response to kozar (Reply #113)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 06:26 PM

135. Bravo! The very best to your family, Koz!

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 01:39 PM

6. Trust me........

There is a special corner in HELL for people like that - and it's extra large as they had planned ahead for this time in the history of our country.

I'm SO sorry that you were subjected to such ignorance.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 01:40 PM

7. Wow...what a deplorable batch of garbage to deal with.



My heart goes out to you and family.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 01:49 PM

8. Yes - trumpsters are like that. I proudly emailed my dad a pic of me helping a child in a pool.

She had a significant physical disability. He responded with a stupid ass, trump like response - cold (pro-life my ass). My dad is deceased now - such a shame that his trump cultism interfered with his status in the family. He was a WW2 vet, but became increasingly estranged from his large family.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 01:51 PM

9. Gentle thoughts for you and you Daughter

I worked 18 years with developmentally disabled adults. I saw so many horrible examples of people being bigots. But what I choose to remember is the team of wonderful people that I worked with , trying to make each of their days a little bit better


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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 01:53 PM

10. I'm sorry

No one should be treated in that manner. I’ve had people sneer at me, and call me names because of my orientation. It’s been going on most of my life. I think it would be so much harder if the name calling was towards one of the people I love. It’s easier to grow a thick skin when it’s you they are attacking, you know?

Your special needs child is lucky to have a father like you. I’m sure not all the people at the club are not assholes. If they won’t refund your money, go anyway. If they use the term retarded again, remind them their language is that of an 8 year old, apparently that’s when they stopped maturing.

for you and for your family.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 01:54 PM

11. Holy crap!

Heartless people at that club!

You and your daughter need to avoid them for your emotional well-being.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 01:55 PM

12. Any chance of going to local media about this?

Name and shame can be pretty powerful.

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Response to Reader Rabbit (Reply #12)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:06 PM

18. working on it,,

The CC doesnt know that lil bit (my daughter) brother is a city attorney and after I talked to him last night, I think,but am not sure,, that he is more pissed than me.. Gonna let him run with it


Koz

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 01:55 PM

13. Who are these people?

Good effin' grief!

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 01:55 PM

14. It is hard not to let these idiots cause torment. Hope karma comes to them

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:03 PM

15. Have you thought about a civil rights suit?

Your daughter is covered under the ADA, and the manager’s comments are pretty clearly discriminatory.

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #15)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:06 PM

20. It would be worth a call to a lawyer. I know I would. nt

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #15)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:07 PM

21. read reply about her brother,,above,, yep!!!

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #15)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:08 PM

22. Don't get mad, get even!

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Response to Goodheart (Reply #22)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:31 PM

81. Don't get even ...

get ahead!

I usually say "I don't get mad, I don't get even, I get ahead!"

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:05 PM

16. I'm so sorry that happened to you.

Half the country is consumed with resentments and anger. They're mostly unreachable at this point. They need to turn off hate radio and Fox News and reprogram themselves.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:05 PM

17. This is abhorrent behavior. Evil personified.

I wish there was some way to retaliate but I doubt there is. I am so sorry for you and your daughter.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:08 PM

23. im looking at all replies and support

And Im just an old tough white guy,who is balling my eyes out right now at this support,,ty

Koz

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:08 PM

25. Until you name names

and Business,this crap will continue. What they hate more than anything is exposure.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #25)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 05:16 PM

124. "What they hate more than anything is exposure."

Just like the cockroaches that they are.

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Response to llmart (Reply #124)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 05:23 PM

126. What really gets to these

bigots is,the Campground Review that one leaves on the Internet. We no longer have our R/V but,we have pulled up stakes and left a national R/V campground because of piss poor treatment of a Guest . Oh btw,yes we made sure our Credit Card payment was reversed just for shits and giggles.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #126)

Sat Jul 11, 2020, 07:17 AM

156. If Facebook or other social media is available

Those are also very good options.

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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #156)

Sat Jul 11, 2020, 12:47 PM

161. Campground Web searchs are

killer for the bad actors. Just because their Ad's are all glossy and the narrative is wonderful,does not mean they are what they are. One pulled a R/V for maybe forty years,came across some really ugly set ups. As well as really ugly operators.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #161)

Sat Jul 11, 2020, 01:07 PM

165. I was confused by the OP. I thought it was a local country club, not the campground?

Maybe I misunderstood.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #165)

Sat Jul 11, 2020, 01:13 PM

166. Could be,

assumed they were using a Camp Ground with a Golf Course . Usually they run high end .

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #166)

Sat Jul 11, 2020, 02:03 PM

169. I would imagine so!

I've done a lot of camping, and I don't think I've stayed at one of those!

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Response to cwydro (Reply #169)

Sat Jul 11, 2020, 02:46 PM

170. Couple of them in Southern Colorado.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:09 PM

26. You should have hit him with a 2-iron.

(You probably couldn't have hit him with a 1-iron.)

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Response to Patterson (Reply #26)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:15 PM

30. not even God can hit a 1 iron correctly,

and neither can I,,or even a 2 iron,,I do 4 iron at most,,,



Koz

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Response to kozar (Reply #30)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:18 PM

34. I knew someone would come through.

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Response to kozar (Reply #30)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:19 PM

35. actually I sold all my m6 irons

M2 woods and all today,,I have no desire to golf anymore,,,

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Response to kozar (Reply #35)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:40 PM

52. Too bad they took the joy out of something you liked to do.


Maybe you should make that part of the lawsuit.I

Also, if you talk to local news and newspaper make sure you tell them how this incident soured you on your life-long enjoyment of golf.

Love and peace to you, your daughter and the rest of the family!

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Response to kozar (Reply #35)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:13 PM

73. save the receipt

for the lawsuit. bastards robbed you of a pastime you enjoyed, maybe you even used to love it and they ruined it for you.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:11 PM

28. The dreaded R word

It is so offensive. I had two mentally and physically challenged brothers and my mother was a special education teacher, so needless to say I hate that word.


Peace to you.

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Response to hibbing (Reply #28)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:54 PM

59. That is the one word that will get a high school student I teach

in DEEP shit with me. Believe me, I’ve heard it, but never more than once out of the same student’s mouth!

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:15 PM

31. I'm so sorry that your family

has had to endure this. It's been proven again and again that money does not buy class, smarts, dignity or goodness.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:17 PM

32. Write a composed thoughtful letter to each member of the Board of Directors


Don't use a computer write it by hand.

Send it registered to their home or business address.

Don't care how right wing they are I cannot believe that the Board Members would agree.

If they are leasing public land call the city/county


Don't sell your clubs. Don't let them make you change your life.


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Response to grantcart (Reply #32)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:20 PM

39. already sold,,

Mrs K doesnt like the decision,, but I can rent clubs cheaply enough if the feeling hits.

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Response to kozar (Reply #39)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:22 PM

40. You married a smart woman, but you already knew that.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:18 PM

33. You gotta admit your decision to distance from them is an excellent one.

Your experience offends me too. Get the hell away from those cootie laden asses, and thank the stars that you found out what utter slime they are right at the beginning.

Ugh! Ugh! Ugh!

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:19 PM

36. good gawd

If I didn't see this happening with my own eyes, I would never believe it.
Amazed you didn't cold cock the guy.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:19 PM

37. You and your family are victims of a hate crime and fraud

Get a good lawyer so you don't have to deal with these individuals personally. The whole bunch are probably rotten so don't waste your energy. And, report them to the local police while you are at it, for stealing your money and hate crimes.. Makes my blood boil but you must always remember that we out-number the haters. So sorry that this had to happen to you and yours.

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Response to Miigwech (Reply #37)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:23 PM

41. lil bits brother is a city attorney

he told me last night to slow down and do nothing,,he will work on it. police know,,and were friendly. My hardest part is to listen to son and keep my mouth shut. Im livid...



Koz

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Response to kozar (Reply #41)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:26 PM

44. Justice will be your reward because those two are gonna get some instant karma

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Response to kozar (Reply #41)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 06:11 PM

132. You have every right to be livid

It is perfectly understandable. When someone who charges $500/hr is telling you that stuff for free you need to listen. No contact, period. Stay off the property. All the usual stuff.

You are a wonderful human being. Far better than me. At the very least your restraint is a shining example to people like me.
Thank you.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:19 PM

38. Can't say I'm surprised.

Country clubs are the vacation hot-spots for the dregs of wealthy humanity. I'm sorry you and your daughter were treated so awfully...

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:23 PM

42. Where the fuck is this?

Piece of shit assholes.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #42)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:25 PM

43. when son tells me I can talk,,I will post,,

not only my lawyer,,but dammit ,,my son,,,, I guess I need to listen to him now..

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Response to kozar (Reply #43)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 07:21 PM

140. Ok

I have a grandson with severe autism and this infuriates me as well.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:30 PM

45. Yeah I know what you mean. I have a SEVERELY retarded daughter and as we moved

around the country we had such experiences. When hubby retired from the military, we settled in the Seattle area where my daughter had been treated so wonderfully. From the kids in the neighborhood to the teachers. Now she looks out the front window almost all day long and people walking by wave at her to make her smile. I love this area and these people.

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Response to demigoddess (Reply #45)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:33 PM

47. omg

we are Seahawk fans,,they flew daughter and us out to Seattle for the Monday night game 3 years ago,, Lil bit played catch on field with Russ and Tyler,,they paid our hotel,plane and all,,except food,,I dropped about 500 on food,,God I miss fresh Seafood!


Koz

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Response to kozar (Reply #47)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:04 PM

65. move up here!! our sons friends have always been nice to her and never have I

been accosted with pointed fingers etc like in other states.

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Response to demigoddess (Reply #65)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:23 PM

108. if I could afford ..

we would be there in a heart beat,,,just this lil thing of season tickets to Hawks,,the music scene we love,,the food.. etcetc... its just all the extras Seattle offers!!

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Response to kozar (Reply #108)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 07:19 PM

139. We have a golf course not far from us.

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Response to demigoddess (Reply #45)

Sat Jul 11, 2020, 01:22 PM

167. As it should be.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:34 PM

48. Jeezus HC. What disgusting "people." What's really disgusting: They think they are funny and right.

They are not. They are despicable and H was too kind to call them "deplorables." I also have a special needs kiddo, and I'm afraid what I would do to a-holes like that. We need laws and enforcement on "hate speech." That is what they did. You have my sympathies.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:34 PM

49. This is their great leader they worship. Is there any wonder?

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #49)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:07 PM

68. +1. People who saw that clip and still voted for him are just as sadistic and evil as he is.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:39 PM

50. What state is the CC in?

I am so sorry you had to deal with such fucking ignorance.

Edited to add:

Sorry, didn’t see your earlier answer to hold back info for now. I hope you can nail the bastards!

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Response to MLAA (Reply #50)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:43 PM

54. uhmm I shouldnt but State seems fairly safe

hope son doesnt blast me,,,Fla

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Response to kozar (Reply #54)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:02 PM

63. I'm shocked

SHOCKED that something like this happened in Florida.
Deep breaths. Breathe it out. It's going to be fine. The moral arc of the universe swings towards justice. You are a good man, good husband, and good father. I know you are beyond angry, and have every right to be. But listen to your son, bide your time, and wait for the right moment.

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Response to MLAA (Reply #50)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:48 PM

56. Give em hell, Koz, give the sick assholes hell.

I want them out of business, I know that’s a lot to hope for but the only thing such ignoramuses understand is their wallet.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:40 PM

51. Brother Koz, hugs

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Response to irisblue (Reply #51)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 05:15 PM

122. sister Iris,

you have been here all along,,feel how hard I hug you back

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:41 PM

53. I think they should change the slogan from MAGA to MACA

Make America Cruel Again.

I am so sorry you had to go through this. Glad you could come over here to DU and vent your story.

Blessings to your family.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:47 PM

55. Leave a bad review on Yelp

Seriously.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:51 PM

57. Lawyer son told me to add some context to my post

How can you not love this lil girl


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Response to kozar (Reply #57)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:55 PM

60. Beautiful!!

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Response to kozar (Reply #57)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:08 PM

69. She's beautiful. I'm seriously jealous of her hair color.

It's hard to imagine some people are as mean and nasty as they are.

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Response to kozar (Reply #57)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:41 PM

86. I can see why you are so hurt. You and her have a special bond. Such love.

You are a very blessed man.

Those people will never hurt your love.

My prayers that they pay for their wrong deeds.

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Response to kozar (Reply #57)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:43 PM

88. What a precious, beautiful girl! n/t

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Response to kozar (Reply #57)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 06:12 PM

133. That picture made my day

You sound like a wonderful family!

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Response to kozar (Reply #57)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:12 PM

146. beautiful child, sweet baby.



I am so sorry that you had to go through that wickedness.
That was a nasty cult you ran into at the CC.

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Response to kozar (Reply #57)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:54 PM

148. Lovely photo!


Shame on them.

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Response to kozar (Reply #57)

Sat Jul 11, 2020, 11:52 AM

159. Dude. Tears.

That was more than I could take.



-Laelth

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:53 PM

58. I'm so sorry for the way they treated you

I would have gone to a local legal aid to see if You could sue them for the refund. And to call your daughter that word is despicable. You don’t need to belong to that club.

I have a son who’s a autistic and we have experienced from time to time incidents of people being cruel. He lives in a group home and the people next door to it made a comment one time they were made a bunch of “ r” living next door. Well everytime they have loud parties the group home people call the police and they no longer make those comments.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 02:56 PM

61. I am profoundly sorry that you and your family have had to experience this.

Every single human being should be treated with love, respect and compassion. Period.

There is no place in this world for the kind of hate that was directed towards you and your daughter.
Unfortunately, Trump's behavior makes his followers think it's okay to act like this.

Please know there are more good people in this world than the ones you had to deal with at the golf course.

I know I can speak for everyone on DU when I say we are all here for you.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:01 PM

62. Stay strong

There have always been assholes, but fortunately there have always been more decent folk.

Thank you for being a loving dad. The world needs 8 billion more of you.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:02 PM

64. I truly cant wait

until son tells me I can go public.. your responses are awesome. I truly do feel the love that I needed, This world sucks because of Him.

Doing what I can do,,I want to respond and attack,,lawyer son telling me to shut up (hard for a Dad to hear) so ill play the legal game,this lil girl


Koz

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:05 PM

66. What a bag of assholes.

Last edited Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:11 PM - Edit history (1)

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:07 PM

67. jeez that's sad.

Consider suing them, I think you'd win.

motherfuckers.

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Response to barbtries (Reply #67)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:11 PM

72. oh shit!! that was what I was called,,

havent lost my sense of humor.

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Response to kozar (Reply #72)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:16 PM

77. i almost said that

the reality is they are the R word people. emotionally and empathetically damaged people.Grown ups do not do what they did to you and to your daughter. i'd rather be you, believe me.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:11 PM

71. You called them out to their faces, and they couldn't handle it.

And Liberals are the Snowflakes...

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:14 PM

74. Disgusting behavior

These aren't people. This "country club" isn't a country club, it's a fucking landfill. Fuck them

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:14 PM

75. Get it on cell phone audio -

I'd go back with my cell phone on record in my pocket and have another "discussion" with those pricks. Then send the recording to any local news station or post it.

Suggest doing the audio only, if they see a cell phone and believe they are being recorded , they will act and speak differently.

Go get them-assholes like that don't deserve to be around the public

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:16 PM

76. By not outing them, you are giving them permission to

keep on this kind of thing.

You really need to contact local media.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #76)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:36 PM

118. I will out them when my son

the lawyer tells me I can... that lil bits bro,,he is prolly more pissed than me,, but he has got sisters back.

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Response to kozar (Reply #118)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 05:51 PM

129. What is his rationale for telling you to stay quiet?

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #129)

Sat Jul 11, 2020, 11:59 AM

160. It's sound legal advice.

Courts strongly favor adjudication of disputes IN COURT as opposed to in the court of public opinion. It’s harder for the Court to act impartially if there’s strong public opinion about a given case. It’s also harder to find an impartial jury if the supposed “facts” of the case are widely known.

-Laelth

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:16 PM

78. Your daughter is beautiful.

Thank you for advocating for her and for what is right. I'm sorry we have people on the planet who are so full of hate that it overflows on to good people like you and your family. Hugs to all of you.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:20 PM

80. Kozar, please go to the news media. I'm sure they would be interested in this situation.

Also, I'm sorry this happened to you and your family. I would be livid, and you are right to be angry and upset.

Post what happened on all social media that you may be a member of.

If they have a yelp or Google review page, do the same.

These are just my suggestions. I would ensure their business was ruined if they did this to my family, but you sound like a better man than me, so just follow your heart on how to handle this.

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Response to LuckyCharms (Reply #80)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:34 PM

117. like I posted before,,

her brother is a city attorney and told me,,in REALLY NO UNCERTAIN TERMS,, Shut up Dad! post no specifics call no one but our family!,
Guess I need to not divulge anymore...

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Response to LuckyCharms (Reply #80)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 05:00 PM

120. OMG LUCKY!

I always wanted to say this to you,, lets just light one up! I've read your posts forever.


Koz

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Response to kozar (Reply #120)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 11:39 PM

153. Sounds good, Koz!

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:36 PM

83. Koz, so sorry you had to experience this, but you have an absolutely beautiful daughter. The best

advice I can give is simply to look at her and see love. Plus all the other good recommendations on just retribution given here.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:37 PM

84. What the hell?

I am so sorry this happened to you. I can't believe grown folks would use such a word...and if they didn't know that wasn't acceptable, someone in their inner circle should have corrected them on it. Unbelievable!

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:39 PM

85. I am so sorry this happened to you and your family. Remember when trump

made fun of that journalist who had a movement disorder and everyone laughed? What a sad way to live your life.

I hope you find another place where people are kind and decent.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:42 PM

87. That is disgusting. There is no shame in Trumpland.

I’m so sorry you had to endure that trash in your community.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:47 PM

89. May you find peace in the knowledge that all here at DU are behind you 1000%

You do you, keep us up to date on the outcome and I hope your lawyer makes them suffer.

If not, feel free to let social media take the case...

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:47 PM

90. I have a learning challenged son that is now in his fifties.

He has gone camping with us. I take him bowling. My other son is in LeMans type racing. Michael not only loves to attend the races, different teams have allowed him to sit in the cars. We have taken him to 5 star restaurants. We made arrangements last December for him to fly to visit his sister for Christmas, all on his own. The airlines were awesome and he got VIP treatment. Apparently that golf club has a lot of uneducated fools running it. If I were you, I would find another campground in another town where your whole family is welcome.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:50 PM

91. I am so sorry. I can't believe that this could happen now

I spent a school year working with disabled kids, a young class ages 2-6, most of them were 4. I loved them dearly and think of them often since this was back in the late '70s and I wonder about how they're doing now. I still remember all their names and I can't believe anyone would have made fun of them even back then. Someone must be chopping onions nearby...

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:53 PM

92. Grrr fuck them

Horrible

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Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:54 PM

93. So sorry you went through this horrible experience..

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:55 PM

94. JFC... WTAF?!?!? 🤬🤬🤬

My god. I am so, so, so sorry you had the misfortune of having to deal with assholes like this.

I'm glad you are seeking some legal recourse on this situation. I also agree that, if not now, (because it might jeopardize your case), at some point you should take this to the local media. Shine a very public light on their ignorance and hatred. These people are like cockroaches - they scurry back into the shadows when exposed to light.

Best wishes to you & your family.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:55 PM

95. What a shitty club. You might consider breaking camp and finding a decent place to park.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 03:57 PM

96. My son has Down Syndrome, so while I know this is out there, I have never myself...

...experienced this level of vitriol by anyone. Having said that, I'm very thankful because if someone were to ever ask me, "So you have a retard?", or if I saw someone talking like that about someone else, I genuinely don't know how I would handle it but I assure you it would not end well for my fist and their face. That you maintained your cool is commendable, because I would have hit that punk with so many lefts, he'd beg me for a right. And I know that is not the right reaction. I recognize that. But, it's what would happen. I'm sorry you had to deal with this asshole Koz, but I'm also glad I didn't because I can't imagine a scenario that doesn't have me calling you to come get me out of jail.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:02 PM

97. I didn't know anyone talked like this anymore. Unbelievable! The ignorance of these people is

beyond belief. Are you sure you didn’t time travel back to the 1950’s?

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:04 PM

98. You want to feel instantly better? Watch the ad in the link below.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:12 PM

99. that is horrifying, so sorry

the ignorance and insecurity must be so overwhelming in such people

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:13 PM

100. Horrible people out there

Having jerks like that catered to means others will not go.

You can bet they've lost lots of business with people that rude.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:17 PM

101. I'm sorry

What a bunch of low life’s

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:18 PM

102. OMG I as so sorry this happened to you and your daughter

I would be so pissed. You should tell us where this happened and maybe we could socially shame the place

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:20 PM

104. Go to local media and get it on social media

Full description. Name of the country club and people involved. Otherwise all these racists and Karens would be thriving.

Golf is a great sport with not the best demographic, to put it mildly. I have mentioned this on golf forums in recent years when discussing declining participation. Besides time expenditure and difficulties of playing the sport competently, why would young people want to get involved given the type of person they'd often encounter?

I've had plenty of blowback because the Trumpers think the company and conversation is marvelous. Their kids will grow up with golf and be thinking and saying all the same things.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:20 PM

105. That is worthy of physical assault.

Stop look around just do it. This is very consistent with what I have seen from golfers and especially country club snobs.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:21 PM

106. That's horrible, I'm sorry to had to experience that. Don't let them get you down!!!


Their actions are a reflection of what terrible people THEY are, not you, not your daughter, or anyone else. It all reflects on them.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:22 PM

107. These people have deprived your lovely daughter of some quality time outdoors with you.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:24 PM

109. Tess and I went swimming

not ignoring,,catching up now,,ty all for support!

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Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:27 PM

111. Small claims court and call a local reporter .... if you have a local newspaper.

Give 'em some pub.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:28 PM

112. There are lots of assholes in the country and trump has emboldened them

I hate what he's done to this country....may he rot in the hottest hollows of hell

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:30 PM

114. Hatred is seldom an valid option...

but ah, in this case, I'm gonna make an exception.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:32 PM

115. distilled to our essence by an unmanaged pandemic.

I actually thing some Repubs want to kill off people. They don't care about immigrants or refugees dying. Money is about all they care for outside of themselves.

I had a few exchanges with a schedule at a doctor's office. She was very rude the three times we spoke.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:33 PM

116. Welcome to full-time RV life. I've been full-time for 7 yrs now. Love it!

So sorry for what has happened to you.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 04:45 PM

119. I am so so humbled,, with all repsonses

as alone as I felt last night,,is how much I feel loved with lil bit today,,My God,,THANK YOU ALL!

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 05:07 PM

121. may I ask an ignorant question?

I'm unfamiliar with the acronym "HCP," except as "health care provider." Can someone enlighten me?

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Response to cab67 (Reply #121)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 05:15 PM

123. handicapped in this instance

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 05:20 PM

125. ok,,,,to Artimus and LuckyCharms,,,on a simple Friday

I will be a bit off the edge,, and answer your questions semi fully. We are in Fla,,city starts with Chief,, my lawyer son gonna hate me,but you guys deserve the truth as I can within some limits.

Koz

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Fri Jul 10, 2020, 05:24 PM

127. I am so sorry!

I would far rather be your daughter than those horrible people. Give her a hug from me!

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 05:34 PM

128. mean, mean times

trump has told clowns like this that civility is out and mean, self-centred hate, spite is in vogue. Does not surprise me the open hostility.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 05:57 PM

130. Sounds like Nazi Germany. What incredibly rude, intolerant people. Nt

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 06:04 PM

131. and after about 150 recs, and we made it to greatest page..I'll add this

and I and lil bit are Caucasian,, I cannot begin to think ,what our brothers and sisters of color are going through,,and I will never pretend to give the impression that I know. I'll just say,,,I got your back too!

Koz

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Fri Jul 10, 2020, 06:18 PM

134. The ones calling you and your beautiful daughter this word are truly the ...

scumbags in this scenario.

Every family and every clic group has its share of valued family members and friends who are challenged in some manner and to be honest w/ you, I think that they bring so much to the table, with their outlook on life, and magnificent viewpoints on the small things in life that the rest of us overlook (you know how life is, busy busy busy).

When I was young, I was profoundly hard of hearing (and they didn't know it at first what was wrong), so I was in a special school until I was 9 years old (my Mom insisted to the doctors that it seemed to be a hearing problem but they ignored her). Not until did I have a incident on the swing set (I got pushed off, broke my shoulder as a result) did I finally get a hearing test (at 9 years old)!

Once I was fitted w/ a hearing aid, my world changed. I was one of the lucky ones in that they found something wrong w/ me that could be fixed or rectified so easily. I know that in most cases, things can't be rectified so easily, a lot of my fellow classmates I went to school w/ back then were in this category, but I never imagined them to 'retarded'...never imagined it or even knew what the word meant at first. I still think of my fellow classmates so long ago in that special school, and everyone of them still has a special place in my heart. To me, they were my friends, and I theirs. I never knew that anything was amiss (and it wasn't).

I too was called a 'retard' back then (until I was 9 years old), I didn't understand the word back then (and I am guessing your beautiful daughter doesn't know what word means either).

To all of those using such a hateful word and reveling in it should be ashamed of themselves. If I were their mother, I would box their ears. This is pathetic and shameful behavior. We were all raised to be better than this and there's no excuse for such behavior other than just being a d**khead.

To this day, I laugh and mock at anyone that ever uses this word in a hateful manner. It's pathetic on their part and also they really don't know the true meaning of the word. They and the CC are the retards in this scenario, and you and your daughter are the true heroes in this story to me, for standing up for your beliefs, for standing up for your daughter, and for up against such ignorant hate.

Peace to your daughter, your wife, and you

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Fri Jul 10, 2020, 06:30 PM

136. I wouldn't drop it. I would make a complaint to the Better Business Bureau.

This may not be something for which they have oversight, but I would make damn sure this got some ugly publicity. This is so far beyond what is acceptable, and it is indicative of what that orange, ass wipe has encouraged in this country. And for the record, I am so far beyond appalled. I'm sorry you had to listen to this kind of BS.

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Fri Jul 10, 2020, 06:40 PM

137. I'm impressed you did not smash the guy right then and there.

I would probably have been charged with assault in this situation.

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Fri Jul 10, 2020, 07:13 PM

138. I cant even anymore..

cant keep up with posts,cant respond to all posts. I took lil bit swimming today she had a ball, now Dad just needs to sleep,,Lucky Im Im Caucasian and no one will break down my door


You guys rock thank you


Koz

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Fri Jul 10, 2020, 07:56 PM

142. Country clubs are (mostly) elitist, with bad history

And bad records of inclusion. Jews and blacks used to be banned from them, and other "undesirables" too. They want a certain type.

I can see how they might be appealing for socializing, and activities, but obviously they still want a certain type and draw people of a certain type.

Obviously not who I (or you) would want to socialize with! So they're not our kind of people either, the country club set.

I am so sorry you had to deal with such hate and ignorance, and would probably have had the same feelings of hatred, frustration and betrayal that you felt.

My brother is "slow" and one of the most remarkable people I know. He was called a retard in the 1960's, sent to a special school. When he wanted to attend the high school I had attended he needed a 9th grade reading level to enter. I worked with him and he got his reading level up, graduated from the same high school I did, and even went on to take classes at the community college (because I was in college). He's slow, not stupid. It may take him a bit longer but he learns. He drives, lives independently with a roommate. And has more kindness and compassion than most people I know.

And about golf: I often think golf courses should be turned into farms and gardens; and golfers should become farmers and gardeners and get their exercise while growing edible or beautiful, fragrant plants. Maybe you and your daughter can take up that hobby?!?

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:00 PM

143. Trump has normalized behavior that years ago social norms would have deemed rude,

Hateful, unacceptable...for some people, not us all. I think societal norms are related to the Bystander Effect which was described in a recent post.

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Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:02 PM

144. if it were me he would have been knocked out

That shit bothers me a lot

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Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:07 PM

145. Oh my ...

I am so sorry to hear this. I hope you get your money back and get out of that place.

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Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:46 PM

147. Quite a lot of people are re-thinking their social connections these days...

I may have to give up my dancing community. But having decent friends is better than any activity I enjoy.

I am sorry people can be so hateful. I had a special needs sister whom I adored--people were often mean to her, too. Too bad hatefulness causes people to miss out on relationships with wonderful people in life. Their loss.

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Fri Jul 10, 2020, 08:56 PM

149. I am so very sorry.

What kind of people could say things like that to others? How ignorant and sad and you did the right thing by moving on.

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Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:19 PM

150. So sorry you had to experience this!

Your daughter is beautiful and you are doing the right thing by her and following your sons instructions. I pray you will be able to forgive the losers in the CC while continuing to teach them a sound lesson so they think a 100 times before doing something like this again.

Stay happy and safe.

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Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:27 PM

151. I would have went and got my 9 iron and beat the fuck out of that guy.

I'm mostly non-violent...but that guy should suffer.

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Fri Jul 10, 2020, 10:22 PM

152. God bless

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Sat Jul 11, 2020, 12:09 AM

154. wow. ugly. sorry you ran into a group of *sses.

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Sat Jul 11, 2020, 01:26 AM

155. SO sorry, Koz.

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Sat Jul 11, 2020, 07:24 AM

157. Country Clubs are known to be full of trashy Trump Types

I'm not sure if there is a way to find out before if a particular one is a good one or the usual shitty ones though . And it's common for people to find out after paying and not get their money back.

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Sat Jul 11, 2020, 11:37 AM

158. Not cool. Distance and time are all I can recommend. n/t

Well, and a beer.



-Laelth

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Response to kozar (Original post)

Sat Jul 11, 2020, 12:49 PM

162. Country Clubs sell the illusion of a "perfect" world

I will never join one. Ever.

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Sat Jul 11, 2020, 12:51 PM

163. How awful!

I wish that I could come up with a meaningful response. But I can't. That guy is evil, and owns the problem. Your family does not own it. But it has to be so insulting.

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Sat Jul 11, 2020, 01:05 PM

164. I'm so incredibly angry you and your family were treated this way.

My oldest has ASD, anxiety, SPD, and ADHD. When she was around 3-6 years old she was still learning to self regulate and had many meltdowns in public. I got many nasty looks and sometimes even a few comments.

I got so bitter I started fighting back. Once in a grocery store I heard an older woman say, “who wants to hear THAT??”. I turned around and told her no one wants to hear her old ass either so stfu.

People with disabilities, especially children, still aren’t protected enough.

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Sat Jul 11, 2020, 01:44 PM

168. Stark contrast between their moral rot and your daughter's genuine beauty.

My dad used to say, “Class will tell.” In this case, couldn’t be more true. What low lifes.

It is stunning that some people (generally repukes, It seems) have such a total lack of wisdom.

You are both supported by the good people in the world, like DUers!

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Sat Jul 11, 2020, 03:53 PM

171. Must be Trump voters.

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Sat Jul 11, 2020, 03:57 PM

172. Nothing to add that hasn't already been said here except

Those people are creeps and don’t deserve your time, and it breaks my heart that assholes like them still exist.

Give that young lady a big hug from me and keep your head held high!

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Sat Jul 11, 2020, 04:15 PM

173. I wanna go kick some ass.

If anyone said that about my son, I'd do something that would get me arrested, but I know I'd feel better.

I can't wait until the Big Reveal. I hope it's somewhere near me in the southeast. (It's a shame lightning hasn't struck and burned their shithole down.)



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Response to kozar (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2020, 11:11 PM

174. Ive been quiet for a few days,,

This post happened on mid June,, it is now mid July and I will share,,,,, Tess isn't well she went from 85 pounds to 53 in these short weeks. While I love the support I have seen to this post,,, even her Dr in Tn who has taken care of her for life,, just told wife,,looks like it is the time. I wont post pics of lil bit at 40 pounds,, just look at her at 80 pounds and enjoy. I am kind of
in middle of all, I worked so long in handicapped field. Went to way too many funerals.

here's whats gonna happen DU .. lil bit gonna go on her way,, I didn't wait until that day,, which Docs say is coming.. but lil bit taught me,,Dad just do,,,,,, I will tell you all when ill 0bit gone,, my posts here are gone also,,,, I truly do not know who I will be a couple weeks from now,, or even a few days


I guess I get to say this,, Koz

is truly out,....... and with what I typed , Guess Im gone already Ill just go


Bye Friends bye Lil Bit

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