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Thu Jul 9, 2020, 04:46 PM

Judging from the surge in Covid cases after many states reopened prematurely,

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imagine what the numbers would look like had we not gone into lockdown, flawed as it was, a couple months ago.

Had Murka remained open for business as usual in April & May, we'd be at multiples of the current number of daily cases & deaths.

Has even one of the troglodytes, Neanderthals, imbeciles, incompetents, mental defectives, low-IQ morans, greedy bastards, "freedom" lovers & sociopaths in DC, the media or the general pop. who vehemently opposed the lockdown come forward publicly & admitted they were wrong, BIG TIME?

Of course not. Silly question.

What Democrats, liberals, progressives, moderates, The Lincoln Project, Never-Trumpers, Rational Republicans (is that an oxymoron?) & anyone else acquainted with reality need to do is remind voters very loudly & constantly that Trump & his nest of vipers opposed the lockdown with every fiber of their miserable, twisted souls & that it was the governors & mayors -- Dems aggressively & 'Pubs reluctantly -- who brought things to a halt, saving tens of thousands of lives & preventing hundreds of thousands of cases of a sometimes deadly & often-disabling disease.

And also remind voters that it was overwhelmingly the Rethug governors who reopened prematurely, imperiling the lives of their constituents & of us all.


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Lord Ludd Jul 2020 OP
Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2020 #1
Voltaire2 Jul 2020 #2
gratuitous Jul 2020 #3
RockRaven Jul 2020 #4
stillcool Jul 2020 #5
tanyev Jul 2020 #6

Response to Lord Ludd (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 04:50 PM

1. True

but weren't some states not even shut down all that much to begin with?

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Response to Lord Ludd (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 04:54 PM

2. We are likely to find out. The trumpanzees are insisting on keeping everything open.

And they've brainwashed a large segment of the population into thinking it is 'libtarded' to social distance and wear a mask.

What we did in April and May is quickly becoming irrelevant.

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Response to Lord Ludd (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 04:56 PM

3. Trump has sort-of bragged about this

Through no effort of his own, the quick reaction of the state governments in New York, Washington, and California blunted the initial stages of the pandemic. Trump has claimed those efforts for himself to brag that he personally saved millions of lives during the time he was calling the pandemic a hoax and bending the medical community to parrot his see-no-evil approach.

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Response to Lord Ludd (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 05:18 PM

4. It's not just open versus closed, it is a lot about HOW...

Japan didn't close or lockdown anything like what America did, but their cases and deaths are miniscule by comparison to the US, and also compared to other no-lockdown countries like Sweden.

Why? Maybe because their mask-wearing rate was through the roof.

There are studies/papers out there which show that if 80% of Americans wore masks outside the home, the transmission rate would plummet even without an accompanying lockdown.

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Response to Lord Ludd (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 05:20 PM

5. I think a lot of those states...

were opening before they had peaked.

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Response to stillcool (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 06:19 PM

6. Abbott's office had the reopening all scheduled, mostly in 2 week increments.

I saw a local news story late May, maybe, listing off all the dates things were going to reopen and my jaw hit the floor. Wouldn’t it make a million times more sense to wait enough time at each phase to see how well it’s working before moving on to the next phase?

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