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cal04

(41,505 posts)
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 04:12 PM Sep 2012

Gallup: One-Third Of Lowest Income Voters Support Romney

While Mitt Romney continues to suffer the fallout from a video that shows him dismissing President Barack Obama's voters, or 47 percent of Americans, as invididuals who do not pay income taxes and depend on government entitlements, new research from Gallup released Tuesday shows that the Republican nominee claims the support from more of those individuals than his remarks seem to suggest.

According to Gallup's polling from the tracking period of Aug. 27-Sept. 16, 34 percent of voters whose household incomes are less than $24,000 a year support Romney. Obama easily wins among those voters, earning the support of 58 percent.

As Gallup points out, a significant portion of the individuals who pay no income tax are the same voters in the lowest income bracket, roughly a third of whom intend to vote for Romney, not Obama.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/gallup-one-third-of-lowest-income-voters-support

Romney Has Support Among Lowest Income Voters
http://www.gallup.com/poll/157508/romney-support-among-lowest-income-voters.aspx

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Gallup: One-Third Of Lowest Income Voters Support Romney (Original Post) cal04 Sep 2012 OP
Shake head nadinbrzezinski Sep 2012 #1
One third of the lowest income voters who are voting for Romney are racists still_one Sep 2012 #2
Yes, racism is the significant factor yellerpup Sep 2012 #3
Around here it's that, and their fundamentalist religious beliefs SharonAnn Sep 2012 #15
I really don't get how religious belief yellerpup Sep 2012 #16
It drives prejudice against gays. dawg Sep 2012 #21
Delusional, yes. yellerpup Sep 2012 #23
You're right. There's no fixing it. You just have to scare the hell out of these people. dawg Sep 2012 #26
Staying home on election day yellerpup Sep 2012 #31
I hope you're right. dawg Sep 2012 #32
Just as long as we win... yellerpup Sep 2012 #33
Probably so, but even if they aren't they are just worried about... rfranklin Sep 2012 #6
Actually, you're right. Jackpine Radical Sep 2012 #28
These people aren't voting for Romney... LynneSin Sep 2012 #7
It is the same result. /nt still_one Sep 2012 #13
Not really LynneSin Sep 2012 #14
Yup racists. No way they can think Thrill Sep 2012 #4
I would bet money that those people are mostly voting against Obama and not for Romney Spider Jerusalem Sep 2012 #5
Yup. Killing themselves so gays can't marry. Bradical79 Sep 2012 #18
Yeah, and he dissed them ProSense Sep 2012 #8
This is important: He didn't dis the low-income fundies. Jackpine Radical Sep 2012 #29
Hard core racism and bone-deep stupidity. hifiguy Sep 2012 #9
Stupid, uneducated, bible-beating redneck racists. kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #10
Idiot nation. mmonk Sep 2012 #11
Well, there's Honey Boo-Boo's family... joeybee12 Sep 2012 #12
And I'll still pay my taxes to help them receive government aid when they need it... Bradical79 Sep 2012 #17
These are Rove's people... Barack_America Sep 2012 #19
They deserve him. n/t Ganja Ninja Sep 2012 #20
Small comfort. Jackpine Radical Sep 2012 #30
You can lead a horse to water . . . - n/t coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #22
Incorrigible willfully ignorant Shittohead Faux Noise viewers. lpbk2713 Sep 2012 #24
And some will continue to support him because he's white. CakeGrrl Sep 2012 #25
It makes you wonder why. liberal N proud Sep 2012 #27
Stockholm Syndrome? qb Sep 2012 #34
No. Hell, they don't even know they're being exploited & abused. Jackpine Radical Sep 2012 #36
Hey now, we need to be figuring out how to get these voters to flip.... reformist2 Sep 2012 #35

SharonAnn

(13,772 posts)
15. Around here it's that, and their fundamentalist religious beliefs
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 09:30 AM
Sep 2012

The right-wing religiosity is a driving force in many of their lives.

yellerpup

(12,253 posts)
16. I really don't get how religious belief
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 10:48 AM
Sep 2012

drives prejudice. Christianity teaches compassion and service to 'the least of these,' which fundamentalists often are. How they consistently vote against their own best interests makes no sense at all.

dawg

(10,622 posts)
21. It drives prejudice against gays.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 11:07 AM
Sep 2012

The abortion issue is another driver of their votes.

But it's mostly racism. The religious issues are just an excuse.

They oppose the Democrats because they believe the welfare state allows blacks and Mexicans to live a life of ease on welfare while poor whites like themselves have to struggle to get by. So they vote Republican as a big "screw you" to the "moochers".

It's delusional, but that's how they think.

yellerpup

(12,253 posts)
23. Delusional, yes.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 11:12 AM
Sep 2012

How do you fix delusional? Delusional is the same state as stupid--no fixing it.

dawg

(10,622 posts)
26. You're right. There's no fixing it. You just have to scare the hell out of these people.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 11:18 AM
Sep 2012

They want to vote for the conservatives, but they won't do it if they seriously think they'll lose their Medicare or their right to use birth control.

Right now, they don't believe the Republicans would really do those things. (At least not to white people.)

Scare them bad enough, and they might not vote for us, but they'll certainly stay home election day.

yellerpup

(12,253 posts)
31. Staying home on election day
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 11:47 AM
Sep 2012

is what I see the mass of them doing. With pitifully few bumper stickers showing, with even fewer yard signs in favor of Rmoney, with the way states with R governors are trying to impede voting and increasing the time a person has to stand in line to vote, I don't see this group waiting in line for hours to vote (especially if football or Honey BooBoo is on TV) for someone they are tepid about, at most. I do see Obama voters standing in line to vote up until someone runs them away. I hope I'm not too optimistic but I think we are going to win this BIG.

yellerpup

(12,253 posts)
33. Just as long as we win...
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:00 PM
Sep 2012

I don't care by what margin. Every time I see someone I know 'like' Rmoney on FB I want to ask them what it is they like about him. I don't think they could answer because he doesn't have any solutions for anyone but the plutocracy and none of my 'friends' are in that percentile. As long as we win, dawg, that's all we need!

 

rfranklin

(13,200 posts)
6. Probably so, but even if they aren't they are just worried about...
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 04:19 PM
Sep 2012

that somebody poorer than them might get a penny more in government help than they do.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
28. Actually, you're right.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 11:28 AM
Sep 2012

There has been some interesting psychological research on this. People will work to hold down those who are just beneath them in status, because if those below them get a little ahead, they will surpass them in status.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
14. Not really
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 04:51 PM
Sep 2012

When you're voting against someone there tends to be an enthusiasm gap between them and those who are actually voting for someone they do support.

I think one thing that hurt Kerry in 2004 was he ended up being an 'Anyone But Bush' candidate since there was a large group of voters more interested in seeing an outsider get the nomination.

'Anyone but...' people vote but they tend to not get involved with the campaign or rave about the candidate to other voters.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
5. I would bet money that those people are mostly voting against Obama and not for Romney
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 04:18 PM
Sep 2012

and I'd also bet that those people are mostly rural white evangelical Christians who are going to vote Republican no matter what because of social issues.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
8. Yeah, and he dissed them
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 04:21 PM
Sep 2012

and plans to screw them over, and they will still vote for him. That's not where the backlash against Romney is going to come from.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
29. This is important: He didn't dis the low-income fundies.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 11:36 AM
Sep 2012

Not in their view anyway. Introspection and perspective are not among their stronger attributes.

They don't see themselves as meeting the criteria for the Moocher category, and see themselves as exploited by those Moochers, and it is those moochers who are causing them to be so poor.

The moochers are getting all the good things that God intended for the evangelical/racist/rage addicts. Maybe Romney won't make it any better for the e/r/ra's, but by God he'll make it hell on those Moochers.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
9. Hard core racism and bone-deep stupidity.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 04:29 PM
Sep 2012

And these people somehow manage to dress themselves each day. The mind shrivels.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
10. Stupid, uneducated, bible-beating redneck racists.
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 04:32 PM
Sep 2012

Rmoney would let them starve, too. They're just too stupid to figure that part out.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
17. And I'll still pay my taxes to help them receive government aid when they need it...
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 10:55 AM
Sep 2012

... unlike their candidate. Because that's what decent rational people do. I'll even fight for them to get free health care, a cleaner living environment, and a safer neighborhood. You're welcome crazy Republicans.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
19. These are Rove's people...
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 11:00 AM
Sep 2012

Convinced to vote against distractions (race! gays! abortion!) rather than for their own economic interests.

lpbk2713

(42,751 posts)
24. Incorrigible willfully ignorant Shittohead Faux Noise viewers.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 11:16 AM
Sep 2012



There will always be a segment who will mindlessly vote against
their own interests no matter how you try to enlighten them.


CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
25. And some will continue to support him because he's white.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 11:18 AM
Sep 2012

To put a mild twist on an uglier sentiment, they'd rather get dirt kicked in their faces by a white man than be helped by a black man.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
36. No. Hell, they don't even know they're being exploited & abused.
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:24 PM
Sep 2012

Or, more correctly, by whom.

Stockholm Syndrome refers to the victim in some way coming to form an attachment with the abuser. In this case, the hostage takers are pointing out the ring of cops to the victims & successfully blaming them for creating the hostage situation.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
35. Hey now, we need to be figuring out how to get these voters to flip....
Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:18 PM
Sep 2012

These people can't be all bad. These are the kind of poor whites that voted for FDR, you know. And if we get them to flip, the south would turn solid blue, and Dems could once again have the supermajority they had pretty steadily from the 30s through to the 60s.
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