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Sat Jul 4, 2020, 12:58 PM

Are you proud to be an American today?

Or are you sick and embarrassed by your fellow Americans?

America is an idea.

Unfortunately, it has been poisoned by hatred, division, racism, and politics.

Perhaps it is "patriotic" to celebrate what America could have been? But there is no cause to celebrate what America is today.

The scab of racism has been removed by divisive politicians. Perhaps slavery is the "original sin" and nothing can be done to fix it or make it right?

I have always thought that there was no country on Earth except America where so many nationalities could gather under the idea of equality and opportunity and live happy and fulfilled lives. There was no greener grass.

But today, we see how truly fragile is the idea of America.

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Reply Are you proud to be an American today? (Original post)
kentuck Jul 2020 OP
Freedomofspeech Jul 2020 #1
leftieNanner Jul 2020 #2
SiliconValley_Dem Jul 2020 #3
Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #4
Mike 03 Jul 2020 #5
Midnight Writer Jul 2020 #6
Happy Hoosier Jul 2020 #7
kentuck Jul 2020 #13
Bayard Jul 2020 #8
Pantagruel Jul 2020 #9
kimbutgar Jul 2020 #10
TheFarseer Jul 2020 #11
lettucebe Jul 2020 #12
Tom Rinaldo Jul 2020 #14
lindysalsagal Jul 2020 #15
Paladin Jul 2020 #16
Freddie Jul 2020 #17
bluestarone Jul 2020 #18
CanonRay Jul 2020 #19
I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2020 #20
FirstLight Jul 2020 #21
msongs Jul 2020 #22
muntrv Jul 2020 #23
marlakay Jul 2020 #24
jalan48 Jul 2020 #25
cherish44 Jul 2020 #26
kairos12 Jul 2020 #27
Kaleva Jul 2020 #28
tavernier Jul 2020 #29

Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 01:01 PM

1. Oh, hell no!

I feel absolutely no reason to celebrate this holiday. We have not flown an American flag since November 9th, 2016. That evil imbecile has turned this country into a disgrace and an international embarrassment.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 01:02 PM

2. Sick and Embarrassed

Every minute of every day.



If I didn't have two daughters with bright futures here in this country, I would consider living elsewhere.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 01:04 PM

3. no. was just talking to my wife yesterday about how demeaning

 

and depressing it is to see the US--once the world's leader in public health now in the midst of major crisis with COVID after most developed nations have brought it completely under control. Sickening.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 01:05 PM

4. Not at all. I am, however, very proud of the majority of it's people.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 01:05 PM

5. Mortified.

Especially when I think jealously of leaders like Angela Merkel, Justin Trudeau and Macron, and how we're viewed by citizens in allied countries, or hear a BBC or Sky News report about the state of things in our country.

I wonder if the damage can be repaired, and I shiver at the thought of four more years of Trump, which would destroy us irrevocably and forever.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 01:06 PM

6. A bit of both. I am sick and embarrassed, but there is no place on Earth I'd rather live.

This is my home, for all its flaws. And these are my people, even though I can't relate to many of them.

We really need to fix up the old homestead, and get the rats out of the kitchen.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 01:08 PM

7. I love my country, but I am not proud of it right now.

We need to finally burn away the vestiges of the Confederacy and race hatred in this country. Now is the time. We need a government that acts in the interests of its people. All itís people, not just those who are white and/or rich.

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Response to Happy Hoosier (Reply #7)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 01:20 PM

13. I think that might be a good start.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 01:08 PM

8. Distraught.....

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 01:10 PM

9. Truly ashamed of the comparative stats

"Dr Fauci:
US CV-19 outbreak perpetuated due to locking down at 50% vs European countries at 97%"

Understanding the scope of Trump / GOP failure on CV-19:

"Florida w/21 mil ppl has 10,109 new CV-19 cases; EU plus 9 other countries w/2.6 bil ppl has 6,760

Source tweet:

Matt O'Brien
@ObsoleteDogma∑Jul 2

"With a population of 21 million, Florida announced 10,109 new covid cases today.

With a combined population of 2.6 billion, China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, the Philippines, Australia, and the European Union are averaging 6,760 new cases."

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 01:17 PM

10. No I have never been more ashamed in my life today to be An American

The last two years 2018 and 2019 When people asked me in Europe where I was from I said California. I was too embarrassed to say American.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 01:19 PM

11. I will never be proud or ashamed to be an American

I have no control over where I was born. It is embarrassing that someone from another country would probably infer that I helped pick the horrible people that lead our country.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 01:20 PM

12. If I ever travel again, I'm from Canada

I even tend to say "aboot" so there's that. I live close to Canada, so maybe that's why, LOL

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 01:21 PM

14. I am proud of our ideals. I am sickened by where we have fallen to

and by efforts by "our President" to oppose "a more perfect union".

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 01:22 PM

15. Not proud, but hopeful that our system allows for growth and change.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 01:24 PM

16. Completely mortified and ashamed.

I never would have dreamed that there is such a sizeable portion of the population, eager and willing to eat trump's shit. I doubt that I'll ever regain the love of country I once had.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 01:36 PM

17. I'd love to be proud of it again

Canít right now. The community band I play in has had its summer season canceled due to the pandemic. Today weíd be playing all kinds in of patriotic stuff leading up to the fireworks. Last few years while playing I kept thinking Iíve never felt less patriotic. Maybe next year.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 01:55 PM

18. Not proud to be an American BUT

Proud as hell to be a DEMOCRAT!!!! We ALL are, the ONLY reason this country will SURVIVE!!!!!

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 01:56 PM

19. Embarrassed. Depressed. Sad.

Yeah, that about covers it.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 02:05 PM

20. Ashamed

Of what some of the people let america become. Ashamed we are run over by stupid loudmouth narcissts,crazy control freak authoritarians and asshole sociopaths who do not care who suffers while they run roughshod over our laws to get what they want. Ashamed of the neoliberal shit,and that trump was put in the white house and is still enabled by christanazi deluded racist sexist homophobic transphobic stupid fuckfaces. I am ashamed of 1/3 of the population that embarrasses us all.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 02:15 PM

21. I stopped going to fireworks years ago...

couldn't stand the overplayed music that praises our "goodness" when I saw so much of the opposite.


My son, 17, said it best yesterday - "You can't go to a BLM protest and celebrate 4th of July at the same time, they are totally Opposite ideas..."

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 02:35 PM

22. neither, not a believer in all that flag waving superiority/jingoistic stuff nt

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 03:20 PM

23. I am proud to be American.

I am not proud of being run by a bunch of (Cov)idiots.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 03:25 PM

24. Embarrassed started with Bush

felt great with Obama now worse ever!

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 03:30 PM

25. Not really

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 03:32 PM

26. I love my country and want to take it out of the darkness

So no .....not embarrassed, not ashamed. Ready to fight. Out of the darkness we will be stronger, wiser and a more perfect union and a disaster like Trump will NEVER happen again

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 04:04 PM

27. Mortified. But also not Russian.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 04:10 PM

28. I've never been proud or embarrassed. I take it for what it is.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jul 4, 2020, 04:31 PM

29. Yes because the MAJORITY of Americans are

still kind and passionate and compassionate people who care about their family, friends, neighbors, country and world. Those who emulate the Dumpster and his philosophy are sad and selfish people who arenít worthy to be called Americans.

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