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Thu Jul 2, 2020, 03:36 PM

It's Official: The U.S. Navy's Littoral Combat Ships are Truly 'Garbage'

The first four of the Navy’s notoriously expensive Littoral Combat Ships have under a year of service life left in their hulls. The announcement by Vice Admiral J. W. Kilby, Deputy Chief of Naval Operations listed March, 31, 2021 as the ship’s projected inactive date.

The four LCS ships listed, the USS Freedom, USS Independence, USS Fort Worth, and the USS Coronado are really new—the oldest of the four, USS Freedom, was launched in 2006, and the youngest, the Coronado was launched just nine years ago.

The LCS ships are made up of two classes, the Freedom-class and Independence-class. Both classes were intended to operate in littoral environments near shore and were designed to be highly flexible with easily swappable modules for different mission objectives. Rather than returning to the United States to be refitted for a new mission, the ships’ mission modules—mine sweeping, convoy escort, fire support—could be swapped out while at sea, at least that was the idea. But not all of the ship’s mission modules are finished.

Naval shipbuilders designed the Independence-class with a unique trimaran hull design. Unlike conventional hulls, the trimaran design has a larger central hull and two smaller outrigger hulls on either side and is designed to reduce hydrodynamic drag. In addition, the class’ hull and bridge are sharply angled for a reduced radar profile. The design has had some problems though. One of the biggest problems? Hull corrosion caused by salt water. But the problems don’t stop there.

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https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/it%E2%80%99s-official-us-navy%E2%80%99s-littoral-combat-ships-are-truly-garbage-163989

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Reply It's Official: The U.S. Navy's Littoral Combat Ships are Truly 'Garbage' (Original post)
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2 OP
ProfessorGAC Jul 2 #1
lpbk2713 Jul 2 #2
Nevilledog Jul 2 #3
soothsayer Jul 2 #4
Nevilledog Jul 2 #7
soothsayer Jul 2 #8
Disaffected Jul 2 #11
Hassler Jul 2 #6
uncle ray Jul 2 #13
dalton99a Jul 2 #5
mathematic Jul 2 #9
canetoad Jul 2 #10
alwaysinasnit Jul 2 #12

Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Jul 2, 2020, 03:40 PM

1. Unsurprising

Another boondoggle. And, ships designed to fight a war we will unlikely ever experience again.
Duh!

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Jul 2, 2020, 03:45 PM

2. Who woulda guessed a ship's hull should hold up against salt water?



The vessels served their purpose. To wit: They made the designers and builders a lot of money.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Jul 2, 2020, 03:47 PM

3. Okay.... Who dropped the C off of Littoral????

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Response to Nevilledog (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 2, 2020, 03:49 PM

4. 100% chance that's their nickname

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Response to soothsayer (Reply #4)

Thu Jul 2, 2020, 03:52 PM

7. Should be a stealth ship.

Men would never find it.

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Response to Nevilledog (Reply #7)

Thu Jul 2, 2020, 03:52 PM

8. Lol!

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Response to Nevilledog (Reply #7)

Thu Jul 2, 2020, 04:01 PM

11. Heh

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Response to Nevilledog (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 2, 2020, 03:50 PM

6. First time I read it I thought the c was there 😂

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Response to Nevilledog (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 2, 2020, 05:42 PM

13. you deserve a firm tongue-lashing for that comment.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Jul 2, 2020, 03:50 PM

5. Kick

UNCLASSIFIED//
ROUTINE
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NAVADMIN 187/20

MSGID/GENADMIN/CNO WASHINGTON DC/N9/JUN//

SUBJ/FISCAL YEAR 2021 PROJECTED SHIP INACTIVATION SCHEDULE//

REF/A/DOC/OPNAVINST 4770.5H/20140424//
REF/B/ DOC/OPNAVINST 5400.44A/20111013//

AMPN/REF A IS OPNAV POLICY AND GUIDANCE FOR THE INACTIVATION, RETIREMENT, AND
DISPOSITION OF U.S. NAVAL VESSELS.
REF B IS NAVY ORGANIZATION CHANGE MANUAL
(NOCM) FOR SUBMITTING ORGANIZATIONAL CHANGE REQUESTS (OCR) TO INCLUDE SHIP
DECOMMISSIONINGS OR INACTIVATIONS.//
POC/M. COOPER/CIV/N9IS/TEL: 703-692-3534/EMAIL: MAX.COOPER(AT)NAVY.MIL//

RMKS/1. This message shall be read in its entirety to ensure all
stakeholders in the ship inactivation process are aware of the projected
retirement schedule for the upcoming Fiscal Year 2021 (FY21), respective
responsibilities and necessary follow-up actions. Ship retirement decisions
reflected in paragraph 2 below align with the Presidents Budget for 2021.
This plan will be adjusted if necessary based on subsequent execution year
decisions made by leadership or as required by Congressional action.

2. To facilitate fleet planning efforts to conduct decommissioning
continuous maintenance availability (CMAV) or inactivation availability
(INAC), the projected schedule for inactivating U.S. battle force and non
battle force naval vessels in FY21 is promulgated as follows:

Ship Name Proj Inactive Date Post Inactive Status
USS ZEPHYR 31 Mar 2021 Dismantle
(PC 8)
USS SHAMAL 31 Mar 2021 Dismantle
(PC 13)
USS TORNADO 31 Mar 2021 Dismantle
(PC 14)
USNS SIOUX 30 Sep 2021 Dismantle
(T-ATF 171)
USS FORT MCHENRY 31 Mar 2021 OCIR
(LSD 43)
USS FREEDOM 31 Mar 2021 OCIR
(LCS 1)
USS INDEPENDENCE 31 Mar 2021 OCIR
(LCS 2)
USS FORT WORTH 31 Mar 2021 OCIR
(LCS 3)
USS CORONADO 31 Mar 2021 OCIR
(LCS 4)

3. Per reference (b), Fleet Commanders shall submit an Organizational Change
Request for commissioned U.S. ships and per reference (a) to formally notify
the Office of the Chief of Naval Operations (OPNAV) of a ships
decommissioning, INAC, or end of service. Submit revisions due to
operational schedule changes per references (a) and (b). It is the
responsibility of Commander, U.S. Fleet Forces Command and Commander, U.S.
Pacific Fleet in coordination with their respective TYCOM to ensure the
appropriate lower echelon commands are notified of any changes in the ship
inactivation schedules, as well as Integrated Warfare (OPNAV N9I) and OPNAV
resource sponsor.

4. Adjustments to paragraph 2 ship inactivations that cross the current
fiscal year must be coordinated with OPNAV N9I due to Congressional
requirements for execution year force structure changes that differ from what
Congress authorized/appropriated and signed into law by the President. OPNAV
shall promulgate changes to the inactivation fiscal year as required.

5. The ships commanding officer, masters, or Immediate Superior In Command,
shall submit a final naval message (normally transmitted in conjunction with
the decommissioning ceremony) announcing the ships official retirement date
and include a brief history of the significant events in the life of the ship
per reference (a). The Naval History and Heritage Command (NAVHISTHERITAGE
WASHINGTON DC) and Naval Vessel Register Custodian (NVR NORFOLK VA), shall be
included as INFO addees.

6. Released by VADM J. W. Kilby, Deputy Chief of Naval Operations,
Warfighting Requirements and Capabilities, OPNAV N9.//

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Jul 2, 2020, 03:59 PM

9. The National Interest is pro russian garbage n/t

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Jul 2, 2020, 04:00 PM

10. I'm hazy on the details

During the past week or so wasn't there an article posted here on DU about sub-standard steel being sold to the Pentagon for years?

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Jul 2, 2020, 05:21 PM

12. We seem to be great at funding boondoggles. Just look how well we've done with the F-35's.

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