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Tue Jun 30, 2020, 10:57 AM

CDC says U.S. has 'way too much virus' to control pandemic as cases surge across

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CDC says U.S. has ‘way too much virus’ to control pandemic as cases surge across country

The coronavirus is spreading too rapidly and too broadly for the U.S. to bring it under control, Dr. Anne Schuchat, principal deputy director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said Monday.

The U.S. has set records for daily new infections in recent days as outbreaks surge mostly across the South and West. The recent spike in new cases has outpaced daily infections in April when the virus rocked Washington state and the northeast, and when public officials thought the outbreak was hitting its peak in the U.S.

“We’re not in the situation of New Zealand or Singapore or Korea where a new case is rapidly identified and all the contacts are traced and people are isolated who are sick and people who are exposed are quarantined and they can keep things under control,” she said in an interview with The Journal of the American Medical Association’s Dr. Howard Bauchner. “We have way too much virus across the country for that right now, so it’s very discouraging.”

More: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/29/cdc-says-us-has-way-too-much-virus-to-control-pandemic-as-cases-surge-across-country.html

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Quixote1818 Jun 30 OP
Nature Man Jun 30 #1
Blue_true Jun 30 #40
The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 30 #2
Nature Man Jun 30 #5
TreasonousBastard Jun 30 #13
Blue_true Jun 30 #41
ProfessorGAC Jun 30 #42
Blue_true Jun 30 #46
ProfessorGAC Jun 30 #47
Hermit-The-Prog Jun 30 #30
Beakybird Jun 30 #3
Nay Jun 30 #15
Lucky Luciano Jun 30 #23
Quemado Jun 30 #29
central scrutinizer Jun 30 #4
marie999 Jun 30 #6
Voltaire2 Jun 30 #11
AlexSFCA Jun 30 #25
Blasphemer Jun 30 #39
Blue_true Jun 30 #44
mucifer Jun 30 #7
spanone Jun 30 #8
Doodley Jun 30 #9
Evolve Dammit Jun 30 #16
Blue_true Jun 30 #45
rocktivity Jun 30 #19
Voltaire2 Jun 30 #10
NewJeffCT Jun 30 #12
Blue_true Jun 30 #48
The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 30 #14
rainin Jun 30 #20
homegirl Jun 30 #21
jaxexpat Jun 30 #26
shockey80 Jun 30 #28
McKim Jun 30 #37
IronLionZion Jun 30 #17
JCMach1 Jun 30 #18
SammyWinstonJack Jun 30 #33
JCMach1 Jun 30 #38
Botany Jun 30 #22
Hermit-The-Prog Jun 30 #32
NCjack Jun 30 #24
Ponietz Jun 30 #35
SammyWinstonJack Jun 30 #27
DIVINEprividence Jun 30 #31
triron Jun 30 #43
BadGimp Jun 30 #34
bucolic_frolic Jun 30 #36
live love laugh Jun 30 #49

Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 10:58 AM

1. "Freedom" really isn't free, I guess

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Response to Nature Man (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:08 PM

40. I can see a mask hating, stay home despising rightwinger now,

his AR-15 laying across his chest in his hospital bed. A Nurse pull back his respirator mask that he signaled with his eyes that he wanted off. He gasps for air and in one mighty effort yells "freeeduummm!", then his arms drop limp beside the hospital bed as the Nurse pull a sheet over his head.

Actually, righties are not nearly that pain tolerant, he actually would be whimpering like a baby, signaling to the Nurse, with his eyes, to increase respirator pressure. But his buddies will believe that his end came the former way above.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 10:58 AM

2. So now what?

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 11:03 AM

5. Pray that you're an asymptomatic carrier

and don't get sick and die?

Follow your doctor's protocols and observe all CDC/WHO/scientific guidelines?

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 11:14 AM

13. Prepare for severe pain-- look at Florida closing beaches because they were too Trumpian...

to deal with it properly when they could have.

And Dallas is caught short with testing and tracking-- same thing. Like in Jaws, they just gambled that it would go away.

Fish stinks from the head, and that head is in the White House, where the buck has stopped, like it or not.

And don't argue with anyone who won't wear a mask-- just feel free to beat the living shit out of them.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #13)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:14 PM

41. Beating a non mask wearer is the last thing that I will do.

I stay as far away from those idiots as I can.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #41)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:18 PM

42. Use A Really Long Stick

Problem solved!!

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #42)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:42 PM

46. That stick would need to be so long that wielding it would be an issue. nt

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #46)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:46 PM

47. Vaulting Poll?

Quarterstaff? Don't forget, your arms are 2 feet long!!!
And wear a mask!

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 01:28 PM

30. We lock down tighter than anyone else in the world, or continue to lead in deaths

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 10:59 AM

3. So we're fucked.

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Response to Beakybird (Reply #3)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 11:54 AM

15. Essentially, yes. The American public is so childish and propagandized that putting

a mask on is a denial of their freedumb. There are few true adults in the US. Capitalism has made nearly everyone a selfish asshole, and no one should be surprised when they act like selfish assholes. "Nobody's gonna tell ME what to do!!!!"

What can we do? Take your Vitamin D, wear masks, wash your hands, don't go out unless you need to.

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Response to Nay (Reply #15)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 01:08 PM

23. Don't tell people mask are to protect others.

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Response to Beakybird (Reply #3)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 01:27 PM

29. We are beyond fucked.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 11:03 AM

4. 40,000 new cases just yesterday

Means you need 40,000 contact tracers in a race against time. We’re fucked.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 11:03 AM

6. I am beginning to think my death count of 1,370,000 by the end of the year might be low. n/t

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Response to marie999 (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 11:14 AM

11. its high - we might be at 200,000 by the end of the year, but this pandemic might continue

for a long time.

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 01:18 PM

25. much sooner

end of August. Acceleration is insane. Fall is back to school - we’ll see a crushing 2nd wave. We really need to develop rapid presumptive testing that everyone can do at least once a week. Current testing technology is embarrassing, may take 3 days to get the result!

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Response to AlexSFCA (Reply #25)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 03:19 PM

39. Agree. The June slow down will reverse itself. I say 300k by end of August.. nt

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:26 PM

44. I believe 300,000-400,000 by the end of the year. nt

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 11:04 AM

7. Don't worry now that we can pray in school all is FINE!!!

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 11:04 AM

8. republicans knocking CDC....it's TRUMP'S CDC

trump downplayed it and continues to do so

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 11:07 AM

9. The only way is to test EVERYONE. Won't happen though without the political will to do so.

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Response to Doodley (Reply #9)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 12:42 PM

16. Correct. Like the experts have been saying for months. We are one disfunctional country

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Response to Evolve Dammit (Reply #16)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:40 PM

45. We have had for a while, two vastly different countries trying to live under one roof.

It may seem like a victory for Putin, but longterm it will be to the Left's advantage, split the country in two, with a north to south line somewhere west of the Mississippi being the dividing line. The Left takes either side, the right the other. People like Never Trumpers that can't stay with the right part accept that their long desired image of America is dead. The two new countries maintain a mutual defense for 3 decades, then go their own way. People will be paid to move to their desired half, businesses and homes also purchased at fair market. Children under 18 will get one chance before 25 years old to re-choose the part they want to live in.

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Response to Doodley (Reply #9)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 01:02 PM

19. DING DING DING! Doodley, you're our grand prize winner!

The only way is to test EVERYONE...

RIGHT -- at this point, the only line of the defense is to get the infected and asymptomatic off the streets and into proper quarantining.


rocktivity

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 11:12 AM

10. we are 'not in the situation of' -functional states-

because we have a fucking narcissistic psychopath in the white house and a bunch of pathetic ass-kissing toadies in the senate who refuse to check his idiocy.

This has gone beyond 'high crimes and misdemeanors'.

HOWEVER.

If right now the federal government stepped up and guaranteed every worker basic income support, declared emergencies in every hotspot region taking the heat off of state governments both financially and politically, mandated and funded test trace and quarantine processes, mask and social distancing regulations - all using emergency power acts long in place alongside the executive orders lil donnie is so fond of, well shit, we still could save tens of thousands of lives.

WE WONT DO THAT,

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 11:14 AM

12. Look for Dr. Schuchat to be let go soon

for such negative comments.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #12)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:46 PM

48. I am sure that a person of her status would land well.

Probably a department head at a big well known university, well paid adviser to a big drug company. She is in her job because she wants to help protect the country, not for economic gain, that reality is something that Trump is alien to.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 11:21 AM

14. Guess I'm going to keep doing what I've been doing since early March -

Isolating myself, staying in my house and yard, not going anywhere I don't have to go (and definitely not bars, restaurants, concerts, movies or church), seldom seeing anybody, getting stuff delivered as much as possible, wearing a mask when out, and washing my hands like the offspring of Howard Hughes and Lady Macbeth. I already figured this would be my life for the rest of the year or longer, and so it will be. It's just that the whole country os basically fucked and it didn't have to be this way. What will we have a year from now?

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #14)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 01:02 PM

20. This is our life, too. Only we've lost our jobs and we live with a fox viewer

Things aren't looking good right now

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #14)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 01:03 PM

21. Sounds just like

my life since early March.

Recent happy highlights:

One evening last week dinner outdoors with daughter and granddaughter to celebrate granddaughters birthday. Lots of wipes and sanitizer. No hugs.

This morning I finally had my car smogged. Have been illegal since April!

One of the few plusses - closer observation and enjoyment of the wild life in my backyard.

Keep well....


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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #14)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 01:20 PM

26. Perhaps a well worn path across the LR carpet and a greater appreciation for E A Poe.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #14)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 01:24 PM

28. I have been doing the same.

This winter could be the darkest winter of our lives.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #14)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 02:13 PM

37. That's Us Too!

I have been already isolated last fall and winter with two strong viruses (Not COVID) for about a total of three months. Then came the COVID isolation since March 7th. We were planning one possible visit to our daughter and granddaughter who starts school mid August an 8 hour drive from here but we had to cancel because COVID is moving so quickly and our daughter’s bubble got bigger. She is a doctor and another doctor and his family are in her bubble, then they just got a cleaning lady and the nanny and we would have to stay at a B and B. Too many contacts for us to feel comfortable. Maybe we can see them next year after school is out.....very very sad today about this. And even sadder for the horrors we are about to witness as the COVID rages. I have wanted to immigrate for many decades, why am I still here?

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 12:46 PM

17. It feels like a culling of the herd

as certain types of people and certain regions are getting it harder as others have controlled it better.

Freedumb isn't free. A lot of Americans are paying the ultimate price

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 12:49 PM

18. Shut down completely and tightly for 90 days

We have to start over again because of the GOP.

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Response to JCMach1 (Reply #18)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 01:33 PM

33. That's what's needed. Should have been done in Feb. Because of the GOP, it didn't and won't

happen. We're so screwn.

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Response to SammyWinstonJack (Reply #33)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 03:14 PM

38. Even from 15 March. We would be In Re-opening with almost 0

Cases right now

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 01:06 PM

22. But her emails



This can't be handled by a state by state method. We need a national policy, testing and contact
tracings, masks, social distancing, science, the development of medicines for treatments, and hopefully
a vaccine someday.

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Response to Botany (Reply #22)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 01:33 PM

32. Moscow Mitch and the Gangsters Of Putin have theirs and giggle over the destruction.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 01:12 PM

24. Benghazi

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 01:23 PM

27. That's not what TRE45ON tRump said, he said the virus is dying out.

And His Deplorables believe him.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 01:30 PM

31. I argued here months ago we are heading for regional quarantine

Unfortunately I am being proven right. The Northeast is successfully containing the virus. We made the sacrifices and took the threat seriously. We cannot allow these gains to be lost because other states were irresponsible. We need to do a New Zealand and seal the Northeast off from the rest of the country to protect it. As other states get a handle on this they will be forced to do the same to protect the progress they have made. This is the end result of Chump’s federalist chaotic approach. It is every state for itself.

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Response to DIVINEprividence (Reply #31)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 06:26 PM

43. New Mexico and Colorado need to do the same.

Santa Fe has seen a recent upsurge due to the increase of tourists.
Hope the governor implements a quarantine on tourists.
We need to re-close the gyms, pools and restaurants as well.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 01:38 PM

34. This is rather ominous...

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 01:45 PM

36. We're headed to oblivion without masks

With masks we can slow the infection rate and the economy can still function.

During the Black Death, no one knew the source of the pandemic. We know, but we can't seem to do anything about it.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Tue Jun 30, 2020, 07:24 PM

49. Spoken in the words of true govt. hating Republicans.

The more incompetent they appear the less confident the people will be in the government.

Rinse and repeat. Until there’s zero confidence in our own government.

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