Mon Jun 29, 2020, 05:08 PM
Dennis Donovan (18,607 posts)
From pandering to Putin, abusing allies, ignoring his own advisers, Trump's phone calls alarm staffLast edited Mon Jun 29, 2020, 06:31 PM - Edit history (1) https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/29/politics/trump-phone-calls-national-security-concerns/index.html
By Carl Bernstein, CNN Updated 5:48 PM ET, Mon June 29, 2020 (CNN)In hundreds of highly classified phone calls with foreign heads of state, President Donald Trump was so consistently unprepared for discussion of serious issues, so often outplayed in his conversations with powerful leaders like Russian President Vladimir Putin and Turkish President Recep Erdogan, and so abusive to leaders of America's principal allies, that the calls helped convince some senior US officials -- including his former secretaries of state and defense, two national security advisers and his longest-serving chief of staff -- that the President himself posed a danger to the national security of the United States, according to White House and intelligence officials intimately familiar with the contents of the conversations. The calls caused former top Trump deputies -- including national security advisers H.R. McMaster and John Bolton, Defense Secretary James Mattis, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, and White House chief of staff John Kelly, as well as intelligence officials -- to conclude that the President was often "delusional," as two sources put it, in his dealings with foreign leaders. The sources said there was little evidence that the President became more skillful or competent in his telephone conversations with most heads of state over time. Rather, he continued to believe that he could either charm, jawbone or bully almost any foreign leader into capitulating to his will, and often pursued goals more attuned to his own agenda than what many of his senior advisers considered the national interest. These officials' concerns about the calls, and particularly Trump's deference to Putin, take on new resonance with reports the President may have learned in March that Russia had offered the Taliban bounties to kill US troops in Afghanistan -- and yet took no action. CNN's sources said there were calls between Putin and Trump about Trump's desire to end the American military presence in Afghanistan but they mentioned no discussion of the supposed Taliban bounties. By far the greatest number of Trump's telephone discussions with an individual head of state were with Erdogan, who sometimes phoned the White House at least twice a week and was put through directly to the President on standing orders from Trump, according to the sources. Meanwhile, the President regularly bullied and demeaned the leaders of America's principal allies, especially two women: telling Prime Minister Theresa May of the United Kingdom she was weak and lacked courage; and telling German Chancellor Angela Merkel that she was "stupid." </snip> Link to tweet southpaw @nycsouthpaw oh well. https://cnn.com/2020/06/29/politics/trump-phone-calls-national-security-concerns/index.html ![]() 6:11 PM · Jun 29, 2020
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Dennis Donovan | Jun 2020 | OP |
tblue37 | Jun 2020 | #1 | |
dewsgirl | Jun 2020 | #2 | |
CountAllVotes | Jun 2020 | #3 | |
lpbk2713 | Jun 2020 | #4 | |
Mike 03 | Jun 2020 | #5 | |
soothsayer | Jun 2020 | #8 | |
soothsayer | Jun 2020 | #6 | |
FirstLight | Jun 2020 | #7 | |
smirkymonkey | Jun 2020 | #9 | |
Cha | Jun 2020 | #12 | |
underpants | Jun 2020 | #10 | |
Cha | Jun 2020 | #11 | |
Dennis Donovan | Jun 2020 | #13 | |
tanyev | Jun 2020 | #14 | |
Skittles | Jun 2020 | #15 | |
underpants | Jun 2020 | #16 | |
onecaliberal | Jun 2020 | #17 |
Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 05:10 PM
tblue37 (45,072 posts)
1. K&R for visibility. nt
Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 05:10 PM
dewsgirl (14,433 posts)
2. K and R
Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 05:13 PM
CountAllVotes (19,228 posts)
3. Time to
Lock him up and throw away the damned key!
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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 05:13 PM
lpbk2713 (39,272 posts)
4. Wait about six months.
The market will be flooded with "now it can be told" books authored by former Trump stooges hoping to make a buck before they go to federal prison. |
Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 05:18 PM
Mike 03 (15,986 posts)
5. This is a major report. Many new details.
The calls with Putin and Erdogan were particularly egregious in terms of Trump almost never being prepared substantively and thus leaving him susceptible to being taken advantage of in various ways, according to the sources -- in part because those conversations (as with most heads of state), were almost certainly recorded by the security services and other agencies of their countries. |
Response to Mike 03 (Reply #5)
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 05:21 PM
soothsayer (31,818 posts)
8. That Turkish thing and Berman's firing ...
Let it all hang out, baby
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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 05:20 PM
soothsayer (31,818 posts)
6. Holy cow
K&R
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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 05:20 PM
FirstLight (11,942 posts)
7. Wow...all kinds of things will be coming out this week methinks
Wow
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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 05:23 PM
smirkymonkey (58,059 posts)
9. K&R
The floodgates are opening. He's toast.
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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #9)
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 05:33 PM
Cha (268,449 posts)
12. I hope to hell so, smirky!
Excellent reporting from Bernstein!
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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 05:31 PM
underpants (159,400 posts)
10. inordinately solicitous of Putin's admiration and seemingly seeking his approval
This whole thing is one bomb after another. Bernstein no less. That gives it real gravitas.
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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 05:31 PM
Cha (268,449 posts)
11. And, this is the Treasonous ASSFACE that SSarandon said "Hillary was More
Dangerous than trump.."
And, how's that " .. trump looking Presidential.. " working out for you Van Stupid Jones? Thank you, Carl Bernstein.. excellent reporting! ![]() |
Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 06:10 PM
Dennis Donovan (18,607 posts)
13. Kick
Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 06:14 PM
tanyev (33,362 posts)
14. They thought he was delusional, but they continued to enable him.
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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 06:14 PM
Skittles (133,178 posts)
15. BUT HER EMAILS
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 07:05 PM
underpants (159,400 posts)
16. Second response. This is astounding piece. It meets the theme I've seen
I’m not saying that this didn’t surprise but the depth of the reporting (Bernstein) amazing.
The theme that I’ve seen is that he thinks the Presidency is lucky to have HIM. There is no sense of respect for the office or the responsibility. No sense of respect for those who preceded him. Oh and he’s a moron and he needs a rooting section. |
Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)
Mon Jun 29, 2020, 07:27 PM
onecaliberal (19,019 posts)