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Sat Jun 27, 2020, 07:34 PM

Trump surrendered today.

The New York Times issued the coup de grace last night with their story reporting that Trump learned no later than March that the Russians had placed a bounty on the heads of US and coalition forces in Afghanistan and that Trump not only failed to apply any sanctions but thereafter still suggested admitting Russia to the G-7 conferences.

Got it-the premier US newspaper, the Old Gray Lady openly accused Trump of treason and cowardice in the face of the enemy and his response was silence and a golf outing!

I know crazed shithouse rats-when threatened they attack. If "The Donald" thought there was a one in a million chance of survival he would either be out raging and lying and projecting or at least locked himself and his unter-rats in the bunker to plot the final overthrow of democracy. Instead it seems he has accepted his political death and moved on to his imagined afterlife of endless golf and McDonalds meals.

Leave the moron to his bittersweet loser dreams and imagined victimhood and let him quietly drift through his lamest of ducks wrap up. And never mention the largest series of corruption investigations in US History that will surely follow. Shhh, it's going to be a surprise!

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Reply Trump surrendered today. (Original post)
flotsam Jun 27 OP
House of Roberts Jun 27 #1
renate Jun 27 #2
Grasswire2 Jun 27 #5
CanonRay Jun 27 #14
keithbvadu2 Jun 27 #15
2naSalit Jun 27 #21
BComplex Jun 28 #42
ooky Jun 27 #27
SergeStorms Jun 27 #17
warmfeet Jun 27 #7
JHB Jun 27 #19
FailureToCommunicate Jun 27 #36
John Fante Jun 27 #3
BannonsLiver Jun 27 #6
misanthrope Jun 27 #18
BigmanPigman Jun 27 #28
Aviation Pro Jun 27 #8
Kingofalldems Jun 27 #9
bucolic_frolic Jun 27 #12
BigmanPigman Jun 27 #30
modrepub Jun 28 #46
Cha Jun 27 #4
NotHardly Jun 27 #16
BigmanPigman Jun 27 #31
Bobstandard Jun 27 #10
kairos12 Jun 27 #11
dem4evah Jun 27 #26
BComplex Jun 28 #43
kairos12 Jun 28 #47
RainCaster Jun 27 #13
ancianita Jun 27 #20
BComplex Jun 28 #44
Hassler Jun 27 #22
Crunchy Frog Jun 27 #23
paleotn Jun 27 #39
spanone Jun 27 #24
flotsam Jun 27 #25
The Polack MSgt Jun 27 #29
flotsam Jun 27 #32
mrsadm Jun 27 #37
flotsam Jun 27 #38
NeoGreen Jun 27 #33
denem Jun 27 #34
RobertDevereaux Jun 27 #35
paleotn Jun 27 #40
paleotn Jun 27 #41
BComplex Jun 28 #45
GopherGal Jun 28 #48
paleotn Jun 28 #49

Response to flotsam (Original post)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 07:38 PM

1. What kind of golf courses do they have in Russia?

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Response to House of Roberts (Reply #1)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 07:41 PM

2. Once he's no longer useful, Putin will crumple him up like a Kleenex and throw him away

Heíll never get to find out about golf courses in Russia.

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Response to renate (Reply #2)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 07:56 PM

5. yes, Putin's denouement of Trump will be nasty, brutish, and short. nt

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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #5)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:05 PM

14. A "fall" off a balcony on the 20th floor

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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #5)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:24 PM

15. Does hydroxychloroquine protect against polonium 210?

Does hydroxychloroquine protect against polonium 210?

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #15)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:42 PM

21. ...

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #15)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 01:33 AM

42. The meanest thing Putin could do to trump is...nothing. Not take his calls. Nada. Nothing.

Narcissists hate being ignored. Putin knows that.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #5)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:57 PM

27. I think Putin's going to embarrass him. Maybe with that wee wee video.

But having him thrown out of an airplane (Goldfinger style) would be delightfully brutish.

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Response to renate (Reply #2)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:26 PM

17. In essence...

Russia owns all of Trump's golf courses since they financed them. We won't find out about all that until after the election though. Putin isn't one to let people out of their obligations easily. I think he'll make Trump pay, and pay, and pay for his transgressions. Much more so than any republican in Congress, that's for sure.

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Response to House of Roberts (Reply #1)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 08:40 PM

7. I don't know, but they are all located in a Siberian "work camp." NT

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Response to House of Roberts (Reply #1)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:40 PM

19. Many people say there's a fine one on Komsomolets Island. A perfect one.

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Response to flotsam (Original post)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 07:42 PM

3. I want to know what President Biden is going to do about Putin?

This piece of shit needs a day of reckoning, and soon. That obviously won't happen with Trump, so what is Biden prepared to do?

I think we should end relations with Russia and encourage other NATO members to follow suit. Putin wants to reignite the Cold War, let's grant him his wish.

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Response to John Fante (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 08:02 PM

6. My guess is he will be very aggressive

Sanctions, etc. everything that can be done up to a shooting war. Itíll be very Cold War.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #6)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:39 PM

18. In a way that might be good

The United States has always been a loose federation of rival regional subcultures. While it's led to a lot of ill, we've found ways past it in times where external threats emerged to alter our perspective. Since the Cold War ended, we've lacked that unifying threat and the result has been polarization and fracturing to an extent we haven't seen since the mid-19th century.

I don't have any warm remembrances of the Cold War's existential dread, but we badly need something to patch this country together again.

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Response to misanthrope (Reply #18)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:59 PM

28. I didn't think of it that way but now that you mantion it

I think you are onto something.

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Response to John Fante (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 08:44 PM

8. Hopefully

Snatch him from his dacha. After yesterdayís revelation CAG, DEVGRU and every other tier-1 unit will be begging for this mission.

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Response to John Fante (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 08:45 PM

9. Here:

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Response to John Fante (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:01 PM

12. The Cold War never ended

We believed perestroika and glasnost. Our leaders thought capitalism had won. The Berlin Wall fell. Wasn't that the end?

They sure should have known better. The Iron Curtain was an uneasy peace. We demanded democracy. Stalin insisted on choosing the candidates and elections were not fair. We insisted on capitalism and banking that fed profits to corporations. Soviets wanted profits for the state.

They never forgave us. Make Russia Great Again? Like Tsarist Russia, 1910. So they're after us now. We should have expected it.

I think Biden will be firm but start slowly. We have a lot of domestic housekeeping to do, politically and economically. We're running on Fed money. A healthy economy runs on innovation and job creation. We've been lagging for a long time. But I always want to know - what is there to invent? We're drowning in materialism. The fountain of youth is about the only frontier to conquer.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #12)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 10:08 PM

30. Climate change/science and real infrastructure, etc

can provide tons of new jobs in many, many different fields, both for those who are educated or not.

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Response to John Fante (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 09:10 AM

46. Reduce oil/gas Dependency

Those are Russian economic assets. The sooner we wean ourselves of fossil fuels the better. Trump is currently slow walking lots of wind projects off the east coast. Those projects need to be prioritized day 1 if Biden wins in November.

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Response to flotsam (Original post)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 07:52 PM

4. trump & his toads were too Stupid to think this would ever GET OUT

in the Public Domain.

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Response to Cha (Reply #4)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:25 PM

16. Don't trust 'em for a minute.He and Barr likely trying to figure out how to fully take control of US

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Response to NotHardly (Reply #16)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 10:09 PM

31. Bingo!

Sleep with one eye open until Inauguration Day.

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Response to flotsam (Original post)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 08:50 PM

10. Trump will counterattack:

Weíve seen this too often. When faced with bad news Trump always comes back with a diversion. This latest bad news is so bad that we can expect an even more horrendous response. Iím really worried. And I didnít think I could get more worried than I already was.

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Response to flotsam (Original post)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 08:52 PM

11. Drumpt could care less. His donors have no one serving the military. Our soldiers, in his estimation

are Putin's cannon fodder. This news will mean nothing to MAGATs.

I say this as an infantry vet.

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Response to kairos12 (Reply #11)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:54 PM

26. Listen to kairos12 folks...

 

the 'source' of this story is the NY Times. There's a reason he's attacked them so VOCIFEROUSLY over the last three years. It's to completely discredit them with his cult followers, and by god it works. Never seen anything like it. I could be wrong, but they will march out the usual suspects for the Sunday morning news shows and deny, lie, obfuscate, and gas light until the cows come home. Schlapp, Miller, Conway, Navarro....and a few more parasites will defend this POS to the death. That 40% is rock solid. While it's not enough to win the election, it damn well is enough to continue making him millions after he's out of office and also really cause problems for Biden and the Dems.

These dolts aren't going away any time soon, sadly. I live in a red part of Michigan (near Grand Rapids, MI) near where Betsy DeVos lives and the signs, flags, support and craziness are off the HOOK for MFer 45. Never seen anything like it before or since. I hope he loses in Nov., gets investigated and has a crippling stroke or Covid19 and dies in disgrace. Hopefully, no other former American Prez will attend the funeral. I know Biden, Obama and Clinton wouldn't. Bush? Maybe, cuz deep down he's deplorable too. I feel dirty to hate someone this much, but after today especially....he's more than earned it.

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Response to dem4evah (Reply #26)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 01:56 AM

43. Welcome to DU, dem4evah.

I feel the same way you do about it. It's not going to be paradise just because Biden might end up getting in, in spite of having to fight the republican party, a well-padded extreme right wing justice, AND russia.

We have a battle ahead of us, but we won't stop until we get the last one of those buggers.

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Response to BComplex (Reply #43)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:13 AM

47. Welcome dem4evah!

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Response to flotsam (Original post)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:02 PM

13. There is no golfing in US penitentiaries

Donny will have plenty of time to reflect on his failures.

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Response to flotsam (Original post)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:41 PM

20. He might just be leaving the rest to his Chinese and Russian axis leaders to bring him his 'win.'

This behavior isn't necessarily an indication that he's given up or thinks he's losing. He might know stuff we don't.

I'm just hoping you're right. But don't count out other players in this miserable geopolitical drama.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #20)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 01:56 AM

44. Oh, he knows. He's already paid for it with the Care package money.

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Response to flotsam (Original post)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:45 PM

22. memo to: POUTUS. Avoid open windows.

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Response to flotsam (Original post)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:47 PM

23. He fundamentally believes that he can get away with anything.

I think he genuinely believes that he didn't do anything wrong, that he never has, and that he'll never be held accountable.

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Response to Crunchy Frog (Reply #23)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 11:05 PM

39. Lots of them believe exactly that....

even from their cells in federal prisons.

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Response to flotsam (Original post)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:50 PM

24. K&R...

Any republican speaking out on this?

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Response to flotsam (Original post)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:50 PM

25. I don't know how to respond to y'all

I'm pissed almost beyond belief so I posted my little screed....I'm both surprised and gratified when folks respond like this. Thanks to every respondent and let us hope I read him right. This board more than anything else is how I survived Bush the lesser and now this. Pray, fight, and kill with words when you are able. You are my people and I just try to deserve you!

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Response to flotsam (Original post)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 10:03 PM

29. No.

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Response to The Polack MSgt (Reply #29)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 10:11 PM

32. Your's is an answer

But I'm confused as to what?

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Response to flotsam (Reply #32)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 10:59 PM

37. I believe it was a response to no. 24,

Quote:

Any republican speaking out on this?

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Response to mrsadm (Reply #37)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 11:01 PM

38. I believe you are correct! N/T

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Response to flotsam (Original post)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 10:15 PM

33. Now if only he would take the GOP down with him (nt)

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Response to NeoGreen (Reply #33)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 10:27 PM

34. The Lincoln Project are on it.

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Response to NeoGreen (Reply #33)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 10:28 PM

35. Let it be so!

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Response to NeoGreen (Reply #33)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 11:17 PM

40. He's doing just that...

This is a stink you just can't remove. Even if Donnie steps down, Nikki Haley, Pence or anyone else are still irreparably tainted. It will be a center piece of every senate and congressional election this year. Moscow Mitch can't escape it. Susan Collins had her chance to do something about this, but failed and will be blamed. It will haunt what's left of the Rethuglican party for decades. It's that fucking bad. And worse is still to come from upcoming investigations that will drag on for years. I think this will go down as the greatest political disaster in American history. A party, at the pinnacle of its power, destroyed itself through breath taking stupidity. In 2150, high school kids will read about this and wonder what the fuck was wrong with these people.

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Response to flotsam (Original post)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 11:21 PM

41. My prediction.....

Before the January inauguration, he and his entourage of grifters skip to a country that lacks an extradition treaty, leaving Mike Pence to serve out the shortest presidential term in American history.

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Response to paleotn (Reply #41)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 02:00 AM

45. Then Pence deserves to take the heat that belongs to ALL of them. He's the vp, after all.

Second in command.

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Response to paleotn (Reply #41)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 12:57 PM

48. Are there Trump Properties in countries w/o Extradition?

And, if so, how many have golf courses?

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Response to GopherGal (Reply #48)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 02:31 PM

49. Faced with possible criminal conviction....

I don't think he'll care. His properties will probably be forfeited anyway.

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