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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 08:43 PM Jun 2020

Breaking story with massive political implications- NSW MP's Sydney home raided as ASIO probes China

Breaking story with massive political implications-
NSW MP's Sydney home raided as ASIO probes China links




NSW MP's Sydney home raided as ASIO probes China links

Counter-espionage agency ASIO is conducting a sweeping investigation into allegations Chinese government agents have infiltrated the office of a NSW Labor politician to influence Australian politics.

Multiple sources aware of the foreign interference investigation said it was scrutinising the office of NSW Labor MP Shaoquett Moselmane as part of one of the most significant inquiries in recent ASIO history.

As part of the inquiry, the federal police raided properties linked to Mr Moselmane on Friday morning, searching for evidence to support allegations of a Chinese government plot unfolding on Australian soil.

The sources said if sufficient evidence was found, the inquiry could ultimately result in an Australian and world first: a prosecution for foreign interference offences arising from an alleged covert Chinese Communist Party plot to influence a serving politician.

More: https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/nsw-mp-s-sydney-home-raided-as-asio-probes-china-links-20200626-p556f6.html
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Breaking story with massive political implications- NSW MP's Sydney home raided as ASIO probes China (Original Post) MelissaB Jun 2020 OP
Here in the states FBI Director Wray says the FBI is opening a new counterintelligence investigation MelissaB Jun 2020 #1
THe traitor is helping the Chinese destroy us...count on it Eliot Rosewater Jun 2020 #2
Most definitely. NT herding cats Jun 2020 #4
I'll guess that the traitor you're referring to for the US is McConnell. Altho trump fits the bill. erronis Jun 2020 #5
The Chinese are ****ing crazy. They are holding two canadians hostage applegrove Jun 2020 #3
Thanks for that reference, applegrove. Always looking to understand more than I currently do. erronis Jun 2020 #6
She studied and listened to the stories and lives of the residents of that slum for years i think. applegrove Jun 2020 #7
Thanks for the link. It's bookmarked . Budi Jun 2020 #8
And the difference in the way the 2 Michaels EllieBC Jun 2020 #14
They did nothing wrong too so it is a false comparison in any way. She lied applegrove Jun 2020 #16
Does this relate to Huawi & the Trudeau/Trump standoff? Budi Jun 2020 #9
I'm vague. I work in synthesizing rather than analyzing. So i'm no expert. applegrove Jun 2020 #10
Certainly. I'm clearly out of my league with Chinese history & corruption Budi Jun 2020 #12
Yes. Corruption is the enemy of all democracies. Let's learn from places applegrove Jun 2020 #13
Yes, and never leave our country so vulnerable again. Budi Jun 2020 #15
+1 applegrove Jun 2020 #17
K&R UTUSN Jun 2020 #11

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
1. Here in the states FBI Director Wray says the FBI is opening a new counterintelligence investigation
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 08:46 PM
Jun 2020
Wray: The FBI is opening a new counterintelligence investigation that ties back to China ​[about] every 10 hours.




Also, he makes this clear:

Wray: This is not about the Chinese people or Chinese Americans. This is about the Chinese government and the Chinese Communist Party. They are pursuing a campaign of intellectual property theft, economic espionage, [and] cyber intrusions that target businesses big and small.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
5. I'll guess that the traitor you're referring to for the US is McConnell. Altho trump fits the bill.
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 09:06 PM
Jun 2020

Actually, most (r)epuglicons are on someone else's payroll. Much more allegiance to others than to their constituents.

applegrove

(118,622 posts)
3. The Chinese are ****ing crazy. They are holding two canadians hostage
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 08:54 PM
Jun 2020

in order to make Canada reneg on its extradition treaty with the US on a case where a Chinese businesswoman lied to congress (she travelled to canada on business and was held at the request of the US). Then Trump doesn't care about Stone or Flynn lying to the FBI so why are we alone in holding up standards in Canada? Because we believe democracy takes lots of work and care. You have to fight for it. Because you don't give in to kidnappers. No doubt this crazy Chinese administration want a weak Trump to win re-election. And now interference in Australia. Donald Trump proved the western democracies were much more vulnerable to corruption than previously thought. And China is going to town on it. Russia too. Everyone should be required to read "Behind the Beautiful Forevers" by Katherine Boo. True story of what corruption is like for the poor in a mumbai slum. It blew my mind. And is very timely. The haves exploiting the have nothings. What anywhere would become if you don't root out corruption every day and in every way.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
6. Thanks for that reference, applegrove. Always looking to understand more than I currently do.
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 09:10 PM
Jun 2020

A link to that book: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behind_the_Beautiful_Forevers

Behind the Beautiful Forevers: Life, Death, and Hope in a Mumbai Undercity is a non-fiction book written by the Pulitzer Prize-winner Katherine Boo in 2012. It won the National Book Award and the Los Angeles Times Book Prize among many others.[1][2] It has also been adapted into a play by David Hare in 2014, shown on National Theatre Live in 2015.[3] The book describes a present-day slum of Mumbai, India, named Annawadi, and located near the Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport. It follows the interconnected lives of several residents, including a young trash picker, a female "slumlord," and a college student.[4] The author is an American woman who often visited Mumbai with her husband, who was from the area and had a job in the city.


applegrove

(118,622 posts)
7. She studied and listened to the stories and lives of the residents of that slum for years i think.
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 09:13 PM
Jun 2020

It should be required reading everywhere.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
8. Thanks for the link. It's bookmarked .
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 09:31 PM
Jun 2020

This such an incredible story & everyone should know of it.

EllieBC

(3,013 posts)
14. And the difference in the way the 2 Michaels
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 12:12 AM
Jun 2020

are being held compared to Meng Wanzhou? She’s living in a mansion in Vancouver while they’re probably rotting in a horrid cell. And we are supposed to negotiate with those maniacs????

applegrove

(118,622 posts)
16. They did nothing wrong too so it is a false comparison in any way. She lied
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 12:20 AM
Jun 2020

to Congress. She broke the law.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
9. Does this relate to Huawi & the Trudeau/Trump standoff?
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 09:41 PM
Jun 2020
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/06/24/trudeau-pressure-huawei-extradition-trump-339136

Trudeau under high-profile pressure to end Huawei exec's extradition, even if it rankles Trump

Nineteen prominent Canadians sent a letter to the prime minister this week calling on him to instruct his justice minister to free Meng Wanzhou.

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Stories a while back were questoning Huawi, 5G, & the reach of Foreign data collection.

Just curious. Trying to place China in global corruption & intel is way above my level, but I try!


Remember who bailed in the US right after Trump won in 2016?

Peter Theil. He got a quickie Citizenship in New Zeland & took up residence.
Somehow I believe its all related where corruption, paybacks & 1 & 2 remaining global mob nations vie for dominance over the others.

Trick is to know who's side the high stakes players are on.

applegrove

(118,622 posts)
10. I'm vague. I work in synthesizing rather than analyzing. So i'm no expert.
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 11:30 PM
Jun 2020

Just noticing rabid corruption and ignoring international norms by Chinese leadership.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
12. Certainly. I'm clearly out of my league with Chinese history & corruption
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 12:08 AM
Jun 2020

I can't imagine a visual aid showing the lines of connections throughout the world. And that's just for China.
We'd have to see another with Russia, Middle East, Africa South America & wherever dictatorial & transnational criminal networks have their long reach.

No wonder the goal of seating Trump was so lucrative to evil operatives.
The US has always been the guiding force that small Democracies relied on to keep their sovergnity against oppressors.

We must absolutely be that power for good in the future, now that the depth of corruption & hate has been brought right before our eyes.
It really is all about good vs evil in the end.


Cripe, we've got a lot on the to-do list. 🥂

applegrove

(118,622 posts)
13. Yes. Corruption is the enemy of all democracies. Let's learn from places
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 12:11 AM
Jun 2020

that are less corrupt.

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