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Thu Jun 25, 2020, 03:59 PM

The U.S. Military Has a Boogaloo Problem

(VICE News) The U.S. military appears to have a brewing boogaloo problem. Active-duty military are flocking to online networks frequented by the anti-government movement, known for its meme culture and Hawaiian shirt-clad adherents, who are often called Boogaloo Bois.

“Boogaloo” is code for civil war, which is the ultimate goal of the movement, and some of its followers trade in memes glorifying violence against federal agents and crack jokes about the impending “Boog.” Recently they’ve become regular fixtures at anti-lockdown and Black Lives Matter protests in states that allow open-carry of military-style firearms.

An analysis of some of the largest private Facebook groups catering to the boogaloo movement found that scores of members self-identified as active-duty military on their personal profiles. Members spanned an array of branches, including the Marine Corps, Army, Navy, and Air Force, and a range of positions, from infantryman, to mechanic, to army bus driver, to medic, to “amphibious assault crewman.”

Some of the most active online boogaloo communities are on Discord, a platform popular among gamers. There, members have been discussing ways to co-opt protests against racism and police brutality to advance their own agenda. And current or former military have chimed in with their expertise, from the best gas masks to military-grade firearms, according to screenshots provided to VICE News.

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Active-duty service members or veterans have the potential to “dramatically escalate the impact of fringe activism, pass on explosives expertise, urban warfare expertise,” said Belew, which is why extremist groups have long-sought to radicalize and recruit those individuals.

“This is not a problem we should take lightly,” said Belew.

(read more) https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xg8g87/the-us-military-has-a-boogaloo-problem

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FM123 Jun 25 OP
ProfessorGAC Jun 25 #1
BComplex Jun 25 #6
BadgerMom Jun 25 #20
Hoyt Jun 25 #2
erronis Jun 25 #3
AleksS Jun 25 #4
sarisataka Jun 25 #10
Aristus Jun 25 #5
Newest Reality Jun 25 #7
Skittles Jun 25 #8
zipplewrath Jun 25 #9
stillcool Jun 25 #11
empedocles Jun 25 #12
Baitball Blogger Jun 25 #13
crickets Jun 25 #16
Baitball Blogger Jun 25 #17
jpak Jun 25 #14
ancianita Jun 25 #22
2naSalit Jun 25 #15
FM123 Jun 25 #18
Throck Jun 25 #19
Midnight Writer Jun 25 #21
ancianita Jun 25 #24
AllaN01Bear Jun 25 #23
marble falls Jun 25 #25
DashOneBravo Jun 26 #26

Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 04:07 PM

1. Just Great

Military members with seditionist desires & violent solutions to what they consider ills.
This is not good.

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 04:09 PM

6. That's what rightwing propaganda has done. Thanks, Russia!

You got into the minds of our military. That's how you win a war.

Assholes!!

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Response to BComplex (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 06:37 PM

20. Thank Rush as well.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 04:07 PM

2. No chit. Bet a significant number joined to kill Muslims and train for domestic militias.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 04:07 PM

3. Not to say this is comparable, but back in the Vietnam days there was active hostility

by many of the troops to their leaders.

I didn't serve but was painfully aware of the trauma of that war.

Wouldn't take much for an adversary (US-grown or foreign) to do some psyops on the young people in uniform unless they were smart enough to understand the problem.

All-Volunteer means getting a lot of people needing jobs because of the economy (stupid). People that have minimal education and understand the perils of ignoring history are the ones that can be manipulated to repeat history.

Throw some sons/daughters of congress-critters, white house occupiers, lobbyists/capitalists into the mix and maybe we'll see a more egalitarian force and less willingness to throw our "might" around.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 04:08 PM

4. I wonder how many are keyboard commandos...

“ An analysis of some of the largest private Facebook groups catering to the boogaloo movement found that scores of members self-identified as active-duty military on their personal profiles. ”

Online, everyone’s a Navy SEAL, doctor, millionaire, pilot, who’s also a Fortune 500 CEO. They’re all married to supermodels, never have bad breath, and used to play pro sports. They build jets in their private workshop, have black belts in several martial arts, and once saved a bus load of nuns, puppies, and babies using just their big toes.

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Response to AleksS (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 04:28 PM

10. Self-identified...

It would be interesting to see how many IPs originated on, or even near military bases.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 04:09 PM

5. Racism is a huge morale problem in the military.

White supremacists make it clear that they will not work with or trust their fellow soldiers who are people of color. And their adherence to such repellant beliefs creates an atmosphere of hostility which undermines discipline and morale.

One of my good buddies from tanker school was assigned to the same active duty company I was when we were sent to Germany. We were assigned to different sections, but saw each other frequently. His roommate was a 'the South will rise again' redneck who displayed a huge Confederate flag on the wall of their room.

My friend was a Filipino from Hawaii, with a laid-back 'go along to get along' style. But I knew he was hurt by such blatant racism.

Every once in a while, when his roommate was away, I would stick Post-It notes to the guy's slavery flag, warning him that if the South rose again, the North would kick its ass again, that kind of thing. My friend knew it was me, and thanked me for my support; but his roommate never found out who was doing it, and my friend said it drove him to a helpless fury.

It never occurred to me to report the flag to the commanding officer, who no doubt saw the flag during regular room inspections. It may not have done any good anyway; this was the late 1980's; I guess the military culture was sticking with the 'we must not offend the South' gambit.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 04:10 PM

7. And so,

A stochastic terrorist has signaled again and again in ways that encourage and provoke this kind of activity. He flashes and big, green light to "the fine people on that side" and blows his Fascist dog whistle.

Predator Grump has made our country vulnerable and frightening. He is, demonstrably, a treacherous and treasonous figure stabbing our nation in its vital organs with an aim to total power over all by whatever means are necessary.

A lot can happen prior to the General Election and I expect Grump to try it. His Red Hat Orange shirts are primed and ready to disrupt us in the middle of a grievous, socioeconomic crisis; the kind of crisis that a conniving, shifty and unethical monster tyrant would use to turn America into a dictatorship and the GOP will facilitate it in order for their party to not only survive, but rule in a one-party, Fascist system.

It is on our doorstep and knocking now.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 04:16 PM

8. these are the same freaks that whine about "antifa"

GET THEM OUT OF THERE

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 04:25 PM

9. The problem with a volunteer military

We are creating a warrior class in this country. The danger of such is that historically they will tend towards a desire to rule over the rest of the population.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 04:38 PM

11. We've been seeing the crap at protest after protest...

one would think the feds are up on what's being posted on the various sites....but, that doesn't offer much comfort anymore.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 04:39 PM

12. ' . . . largest Facebook groups' - Facebook's chief MOSCOW MARK ZUCKERBERG involved

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 04:41 PM

13. Yup. Time for the military to recognize its anti-government and racist problems.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #13)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 04:51 PM

16. The frustrating message in the article is that the military is aware.

They just don't seem to know what to do about it. Either that, or they just don't want to bother to act. It's disturbing.

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Response to crickets (Reply #16)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 04:55 PM

17. Truthfully, they're probably problems in their communities.

If it were easier to file civil lawsuit, we could get them were they live.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 04:44 PM

14. "Electric Boogaloo" was a common theme in the DU Gungeon

Just sayin'

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Response to jpak (Reply #14)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 07:09 PM

22. But remember that "electric boogaloo" has been a dance, bands, movies, etc., long before

4chan dank memers hijacked the movie, Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo to become Civil War 2: Electric Boogaloo, a full-on culture theft by the same 4chan that stole a comic book Pepe the Frog and meme marketed it to the alt-right.

DU understood and still preserves the original creators of boogaloo as funk dance and music.



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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 04:50 PM

15. Been brewing for a while...

since before the OKC attack in the 90s.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #15)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 05:10 PM

18. Yep

(from the article above) “When [the Boogaloo Bois] say they want to bring about a civil war, a lot of people laugh that off because it seems like the kind of thing that would never happen,” said Belew. “But people with those ideas have killed people. They’ve bombed people. They’ve killed scores if not hundreds of bystanders. So we have to take this seriously.”

For example, the Oklahoma City bomber who killed 168 people in 1995 was a Gulf War veteran who, like the Boogaloo Bois, was seeking revenge against the federal government for the 1993 Waco siege.

More recently, the military has grappled with hardcore “accelerationist” neo-Nazis infiltrating their ranks. This week, an American soldier was arrested for allegedly colluding with a satanic neo-Nazi group in a plot to bomb his own unit. Last year, another soldier was arrested for allegedly sharing bomb-making materials online in neo-Nazi forums and plotting to blow up a major news network.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 05:27 PM

19. Why doesn't Facebook just report then delete them?

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 06:43 PM

21. Interesting that this comes from another gamer's forum. 4chan and 8chan spawned lots of strangeness.

I wonder if these movements started as daydream fantasies of some twelve year old gamer kid that was picked up on by grown men.

After all, Donald Trump was quite successful in attracting support by acting like a spoiled brat.

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Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #21)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 07:12 PM

24. 4chan & 8chan have been the digital base that have brought the US all the sick cyberwar activities

Nazi white supremacist networks on the ground. They are incorrigibly evil.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 07:10 PM

23. for thirty years the kkk , skinheads , neo nazis have infltrated

the military and the police . time to clean house .

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 07:30 PM

25. The nation has a boodaloo problem - a well armed and well trained problem. Its time ...

bring back a mandatory national service. Military, or some other public service component. We also need the expand the national academies past the military - a civil government academy, a diplomatic academy. We need to make meaningful changes to the election system to add third parties to the system beyond being spoilers as a strategy in our two party system. People need to know they have a voice and a significant opportunity to contribute.

Even morons with bone spurs and boils on their butts can contribute.

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Response to FM123 (Original post)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 12:42 AM

26. Extremists can slip through

IMO it’s come along way since the 80’s and 90’s. I’m around troops every other week. It’s still a diverse community with interracial marriages. And no one gives a shit what color anyone is.

It seems to break up in two types of groups. Racists and the others. The problem is tracking and getting rid of them through administrative process or taking them out.

Local law enforcement doesn’t have a great track record going against military veterans. They were so scared by a Navy Reservist they shut down a state and shot up a truck of grandmother’s delivering newspapers.

A US Army Reserve carpenter killed 5 and wounded 11 policemen.

Law enforcement is good at doing things like getting the Oklahoma Bomber(former Army 11B) and the Coast Guard LT who wanted to start a race war.

But when the shooting starts they need to come up with another plan.



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