Andrew Jackson Was as Evil as Trump Yearns To Be

[JoeOtterbein]

US History

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Finally, federal troops came to Georgia to remove the tribes forcibly. As early as 1831, the army began to push the Choctaws off their lands to march to Oklahoma. In 1835, some Cherokee leaders agreed to accept western land and payment in exchange for relocation. With this agreement, the TREATY OF NEW ECHOTA, Jackson had the green light to order Cherokee removal. Other Cherokees, under the leadership of CHIEF JOHN ROSS, resisted until the bitter end. About 20,000 Cherokees were marched westward at gunpoint on the infamous TRAIL OF TEARS. Nearly a quarter perished on the way, with the remainder left to seek survival in a completely foreign land. The tribe became hopelessly divided as the followers of Ross murdered those who signed the Treaty of New Echota.

Why protect his creepy statue?

[Polybius]

1. He's got several positives too though

For one, he practically founded the Democratic Party. His avatar is also available on DU for anyone to choose. He's featured in our Presidents painting as well.

[JoeOtterbein]

4. Andrew Jackson Was Evil.

[Polybius]

6. Evil is in the eye of the beholder

n/t

[JoeOtterbein]

8. Andrew Jackson Was Evil. Trump is Evil.

Clarity is vital to understanding evil.

BTW, I rarely use foul language but FUCK Andrew Jackson AND Trump.

Evil is as Evil does.

[Polybius]

10. Trump is in my opinion

Not Jackson, though he did some bad things. Attacking any Democrat like that goes against DU rules.

[JoeOtterbein]

12. I stand against evil F...s.

We All should. At all times.

[Polybius]

14. Skinner made his avatar available for anyone to use on DU

I trust his judgement and presidential historians who can look past some of the bad things he did to instead focus on the positives.

[JoeOtterbein]

17. It's really very easy. Jackson was evil. Trump is evil.

No need to make statues of evil creeps like them. Let alone keep them. Why were there so may statues of racists traitors built, and are still standing today, anyway?

[Polybius]

20. How do you feel about his avatar being available in the selection here?

He was hand-picked to be there.

[rockfordfile]

26. I agree

[Celerity]

31. the parties have fundamentally did a 180 degree flip since the founding days and 100 plus years on

The old Democratic party was the party of Slavery and Jim Crow. Hiding behind 'Omg, your attacking Democrats!' is disingenuous to the point of ludicrousness.

Andrew Jackson was a viscous racist and mass murderer.

You really need to study some history. Start with the Indian Removal Act and The Trail of Tears.


The Mass Murderer on Your $20

MONSTER

Andrew Jackson was an abysmal president, and replacing him on our currency with anyone—even Reagan—would be a step in the right direction.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-mass-murderer-on-your-dollar20

So we’re in late February, which means it’s the season for local Jefferson-Jackson Days, when local Democratic Parties hold potlucks to raise money and get people pumped for Get Out the Vote drives. It’s also shortly after President’s Day, which is, for me, always a day spent reminiscing about random presidential trivia and tweeting unpopular opinions.

And for once one of those unpopular opinions caught the attention of an editor and now I’m writing about how the “Jackson” in Jefferson-Jackson Day is an abomination. Indeed, I want to grab my fellow Democrats who say stupid, historically ignorant things about how George W. Bush was “the worst President ever” by the lapels and shove them at Andrew Jackson’s Wikipedia entry, rubbing their nose in it until they understand what they did.

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The deservedly single biggest issue that gets brought up regarding his term is the minor matter of masterminding a genocide. The Trail of Tears is one of the largest-scale acts of ethnic cleansing in history, with its explicit end the eventual annihilation of the Five Civilized Tribes as peoples in the name of “progress.” Jackson brazenly, callously spat on treaties that had been established with our erstwhile allies in the name of convenient access to cheap land.

Thousands died on the death marches. Thousands more died in the concentration camps that were their destination. Still more thousands were killed because they refused to leave. Soldiers were given direct orders to gun down children in cold blood. Natives who fled into the wilderness were hunted by civilians for sport.

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[uponit7771]

21. No

[Polybius]

25. Yes

[denem]

5. Not a good likeness of LBJ

Who would not love to have a fly on the wall near that table.

[Polybius]

7. I'd love to have a drink with all of them

Democrats seem a lot more fun to hang out with, although the Republican version seems like they're having fun too, especially without Trump:

[denem]

13. Abe, Ike and Teddy?

Count me in.

[Polybius]

16. Ford doesn't bother me either

Hell, I'm sure even Reagan was a fun guy to have a beer with. Tip O'Neill thought so.

[denem]

18. There were celebrity roasts in the 1970s.

Reagan could laugh at himself with abandon. I could laugh along with the others at jokes told at his expense. Abe had a keen sense of humor

[Polybius]

19. Poppy Bush and Nixon I couldn't hang out with though

They're just too horrible. Jr. might be ok to hang out with, Michelle Obama gets along with him.

[denem]

23. I'd find W tough going.

There was that 'hilarious' skit at the correspondent's dinner when he started looking for WMDs under tables - 'Nothing under here' - HA HA HA.

[Polybius]

24. I remember that well

He made a joke out of 1,000's of lives lost for his war.

[JoeOtterbein]

11. Thankfully it is a cartoon.

Jackson was, and is still known in history as, evil as hell.

Tear the F...... statue down.

NOW!

[denem]

15. trump personally stepped in to keep Jackson on the $20

... well of course he did.

[JonLP24]

9. I don't like the Democratic Party before FDR-Truman

When it comes to the 1800s I like the Radical Republicans.

[uponit7771]

22. THIS !!!!

[Chili]

2. I wish we could create...

... a museum - if there's not one already - that details Racism in America - that's what it should be named. It will cover it all: the genocide of Native Americans, slavery, Japanese internments, anti-Semitism, we could include the discrimination against Italians and the Irish at the turn of the century, the treatment of Latinos, the taking of the Hawaiian Islands, ...everything.

Put those statues there, and explain why.

The Trail of Tears was cruel and genocidal. It always disgusted me that he historically received any praise as a president at all, but we know why.

Just seems like a solution.

[JoeOtterbein]

3. Good point...

...I was thinking a Gallery of Racists museum would be educational.

[Kaleva]

27. The great majority of the nation was evil at that time

As they supported such policies. Proof being they elected into office politicians who carried out such policies.

[AntiFascist]

28. Andrew Jackson may have been an illegitimate president...

https://carrickfergushistory.co.uk/the-american-connection-andrew-jackson/

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Several local stories question the legitimacy of Jackson’s presidency. One tells that Andrew Jackson was born aboard the ship on the journey across the Atlantic and smuggled ashore under his mother’s dress. Another similar story claims that he was in fact born in the village of Boneybefore itself, and snuck onto the ship. In fact, noted historian Samuel Miskimmin wrote in his book History of Carrickfergus (1832) that the Jacksons had three sons before they left Boneybefore – one of which he specifically noted as being named “Andrew”.

Take that, Trump!

[raccoon]

29. Why keep his image on a $20. Bill? Nt

[Rhiannon12866]

30. Andrew Johnson was no prize, either

Having seen the PBS doc on Reconstruction, when we talk about comparisons to Trump, he's the one I think of - without the Russian interference, though.