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Sun Jun 21, 2020, 03:42 PM

Who wants to go to Tulsa?

Really. I've been there. Given the virus and everything else, why would someone travel to Tulsa, OK to see Donald Trump praise himself? Tulsa?

Choosing that venue was a poor decision by Trump's campaign team. I was not in the least surprised to see that arena only 1/3 full. Nobody wants to go to Tulsa.

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Reply Who wants to go to Tulsa? (Original post)
MineralMan Jun 21 OP
5X Jun 21 #1
Vogon_Glory Jun 21 #2
Arkansas Granny Jun 21 #3
MineralMan Jun 21 #6
LuvNewcastle Jun 21 #20
Wounded Bear Jun 21 #4
BannonsLiver Jun 21 #5
MineralMan Jun 21 #9
BannonsLiver Jun 21 #10
TlalocW Jun 21 #19
stopdiggin Jun 21 #26
brush Jun 21 #11
LanternWaste Jun 21 #29
5X Jun 21 #14
Wellstone ruled Jun 21 #7
lame54 Jun 21 #8
brush Jun 21 #12
OKNancy Jun 21 #17
Tipperary Jun 21 #27
Arkansas Granny Jun 21 #21
lame54 Jun 21 #25
OKNancy Jun 21 #13
dhill926 Jun 21 #24
kskiska Jun 21 #15
Brother Buzz Jun 21 #16
TlalocW Jun 21 #18
onenote Jun 21 #22
ret5hd Jun 21 #23
riversedge Jun 21 #28
Warpy Jun 21 #30

Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 03:47 PM

1. I usually only make it as far as Bixby.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 03:48 PM

2. In my younger years I went there for a

science fiction convention.

Since then I heard there were plans for a regional hobby meat (Assuming that the COVID 19 pandemic passes), but I can think of other cities of similar size that have more attractions.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 03:48 PM

3. It's a deep red state and they thought Trump would draw a bigger crowd.

It should have worked out for him, but I think it reflects his waning popularity even among the base.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 03:51 PM

6. It is, indeed.

It's also the home of Oral Roberts University, for whatever that's worth.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:18 PM

20. If you thought Oral Roberts was something,

you should have met his cousin, Anal.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 03:48 PM

4. Why would anybody go anywhere to listen to Trump praise himself?

I mean, really?

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 03:50 PM

5. I grew up there and loved it.

Iím sorry you feel that way.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 03:54 PM

9. OK. But, you know, if a city of 400,000 can't draw

enough people to hear Trump speak from it's own population...

I'm not saying it's not a nice place to live, but why would anyone travel there to hear Trump?

I've been to Tulsa a couple of times. I'm not a fan of Oklahoma, though.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #9)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 03:57 PM

10. I sense for some in the cult the thrill may be gone.

There were more than enough local Trumpers to fill that arena three times over. The most interesting question from the debacle to me is why didnít they show up.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #10)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:13 PM

19. My thinking for what it's worth

Is that America is in uncertain times, and while their initial infatuation with Trump came from his ego and his (attempts at) owning the libs, the act hasn't changed. So now is it not only staid, but he's a one-trick pony that isn't actually doing anything to solve problems.

Also, it's tougher for someone like Trump to run against Joe Biden. He's an amiable grandpa type. He's not able to gin up the level of animosity he was able to with Hillary.

TlalocW

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Response to TlalocW (Reply #19)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:38 PM

26. +1 everybody has seen the act

and being an a**hole isn't nearly as funny with a virus, unemployment, BLM and a recession on the loose.
Even yahoos have to think once in a while.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #9)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:00 PM

11. Parscale and the boys estimated 800k and Tulsa has only 400k people. Crazy. But Parscale has kept...

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his grift going, until now at least. I think he's gotten his last check after that debacle.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #9)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:59 PM

29. Dig your deft movement of the goalposts.

Though I'd suggest a 'new hobby', goalpost moving seems a waste of time that could easily take away from important things like staring down people visiting your neighbors (which isn't creepy at all).

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:06 PM

14. Grew up there, too.

Tulsa is at least partially a liberal island in the state.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 03:53 PM

7. Free Venue.

Who operates this Arena? Nuf said.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 03:54 PM

8. I've been told that Tulsa is actually a cool place

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Response to lame54 (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:03 PM

12. It's not that bad. A mid-sized city with a nice minor league baseball stadium right in the ...

downtown entertainment district with bars and restaurants around. And that new arena that trump failed to fill. I used to have a girlfriend there I'd go to see.

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Response to lame54 (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:07 PM

17. It is

Mineral Man is full of SO₂

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #17)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:57 PM

27. I dislike people putting down other cities or regions.

 

But itís a real sport around here.

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Response to lame54 (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:20 PM

21. I suppose it depends on the reason you're there. It is home to the Gilcrease Museum,

which has, among other exhibits, a large collection of Native American artifacts on open display. You can easily spend a day there.

One of the best times I've had in Tulsa was seeing CSN (unplugged) at the Brady Theater. The accoustics are wonderful.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #21)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:36 PM

25. Apparently they have a large beautiful park

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:05 PM

13. Tulsa is a wonderful town. Full of great people

It's a little of the cultural hot spot in Oklahoma. First class ballet company, art scene, music scene.
It's also a gay-friendly town fwiw. Second largest Unitarian congregation in the US ( just behind Boston) if you want to bring up Oral Roberts.
One reason it flopped was because he did pick Tulsa instead of some redneck town.

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #13)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:33 PM

24. yes to what you said...

been there many times...cool town with cool people....

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:06 PM

15. We drove through once back in the late 1980s

late at night and couldn't even find a motel because there was a bowling tournament in town that took up all the rooms. I'd never seen it in daylight, and never had the desire or occasion to return.

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:06 PM

16. The Woody Guthrie Center is in Tulsa

The Woody Guthrie Center is dedicated to the work of one of the nationís greatest folk singers and most influential songwriters. Born in Oklahoma, Woody Guthrie is best known for the ballad, ďThis Land Is Your Land,Ē which some people consider an alternative national anthem. But Guthrie penned hundreds of other songs, too, and one of them was about Trumpís father, Fred Trump.

In 1950, Trumpís father was Guthrieís landlord in Brooklyn. Guthrie didnít think much of Fred Trump when he wrote these unrecorded and unpublished lyrics, which were found in the Guthrie Centerís archives in 2016 by Will Kaufman, a professor of American culture at the University of Central Lancashire in Great Britain.

I suppose

Old Man Trump knows

Just how much

Racial Hate

he stirred up

In the bloodpot of human hearts

When he drawed

That color line

Here at his

Eighteen hundred family project Ö


The Trump development was called Beach Haven, a public-housing project for veterans built with federal loans. As a Merchant Marine, Guthrie qualified to live there.

A year into his stay, though, Guthrie began to understand that the curiously all-white neighborhood was by design. In the archive, Kaufman found notebooks Guthrie filled with what he wished the place had been, a community where ďa face of every bright color laffing and joshing in these old darkly weeperish empty shadowed windows.Ē

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:08 PM

18. I used to live there and still go back a lot to visit a good friend

There really isn't anything that screams, "Oh, gotta go to Tulsa... they're the only one that has <this>!" When friends visited me for the first time, I would jokingly take them to Oral Roberts University. His Prayer Tower has a self-guided tour of his life - six interconnected rooms in a circle. Its population is very open to religious grifters (yet there is a lot of progressiveness and a cool art/music scene) so the thinking was sound that the cult of Trump would have found success there.

It SHOULD have been Trump country, and if it had been 2016 when he was running against Hillary, he probably would have come closer to filling it just from the inhabitants.

TlalocW

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:21 PM

22. Popular song yesterday.



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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:26 PM

23. 1) Woodie Guthrie Museum 2) Bob Dylan Archives 3) John Hope Franklin...

Center For Reconciliation (pics below)








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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:57 PM

28. Why would any person travel to any city to see Trump praise himself???

Just turn on the tube--he is always praising himself.
I've no opine about Tulsa. Never been there


.....Really. I've been there. Given the virus and everything else, why would someone travel to Tulsa, OK to see Donald Trump praise himself? Tulsa?

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Response to MineralMan (Original post)

Sun Jun 21, 2020, 06:06 PM

30. It's certainly not on my bucket list

but perhaps if I lived in southern KS or southwestern MO it might look a little more exciting. Alas, I hail from Boston, NYC, and DC, among other places, and it's just not a place I find all that fascinating, and having Big Dummy there would be an added disincentive.

I have friends currently in the area who say it's the place to go to be seen by specialty medicine, but about all they say the area has to recommend it is cheap housing. It is, however, the bloody beating heart of conservative country, so if he can't draw an audience big enough to fill an arena that sold out for the Wiggles in 2011, maybe it's time to fold his tent and resign.

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