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Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:49 PM

Is Covid-19 now being used to kill African Americans

Native Americans and other minorities. This is a serious question

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Reply Is Covid-19 now being used to kill African Americans (Original post)
malaise Jun 16 OP
Doreen Jun 16 #1
SheltieLover Jun 16 #2
Skittles Jun 16 #8
malaise Jun 17 #22
mcar Jun 16 #3
JI7 Jun 16 #4
FreeState Jun 17 #20
Mariana Jun 16 #5
atreides1 Jun 16 #9
Mariana Jun 16 #13
malaise Jun 17 #23
TreasonousBastard Jun 16 #6
uponit7771 Jun 16 #7
Amishman Jun 17 #27
Skittles Jun 16 #10
Cobalt Violet Jun 16 #11
mucifer Jun 16 #12
progree Jun 16 #14
malaise Jun 17 #24
dweller Jun 16 #15
Warpy Jun 16 #16
Shell_Seas Jun 16 #17
I_UndergroundPanther Jun 17 #18
Luciferous Jun 17 #19
Awsi Dooger Jun 17 #21
malaise Jun 17 #25
muriel_volestrangler Jun 17 #26

Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:51 PM

1. No answer but I wondered that myself.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:52 PM

2. And seniors

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:58 PM

8. and prisoners

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Response to SheltieLover (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 17, 2020, 07:49 AM

22. Yes and prisoners are Skittles points out below

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:52 PM

3. It is a serious question

but given the numbers here in FL, TX and other southern states, IMPOTUS and his cultists are killing many of their own.

I'm seeing, at least at the protests on TV and the small one I attended, AAs, young people and the Democrats who attended were wearing masks.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:53 PM

4. This is what systemic racism is


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Response to JI7 (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 17, 2020, 03:11 AM

20. +1

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:53 PM

5. Used by whom, would be my question.

I can easily imagine some racists getting positive test results, and going out to try to infect minorities. Do you think there might be some organized effort to do this?

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Response to Mariana (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:59 PM

9. One example

When the US Surgeon General made a statement about the effects of the virus on people of color, particularly the black community, he was sidelined for several weeks...and the Trump White House hasn't been pushing the message, either...that would be an indication of an organized effort on the part of the Trump administration to commit genocide!!!

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Response to atreides1 (Reply #9)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 10:06 PM

13. Yes, that could be. nt.

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Response to atreides1 (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 17, 2020, 07:51 AM

23. I'll go further - after that statement was made suddenly MAGAts were ready to demand that everything

be re-opened. Some ReTHUGs were just as indifferent to senior citizens and thought they should sacrifice themselves for the fucking market.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:55 PM

6. If anyone wanted to do that-- how would they do that?

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:57 PM

7. YES !!! 25% of all deaths are AA IINM this is no doubt Red Don's way to win seeing CV19 is affecting

... blue areas the worst.

He's willing to sacrifice his minions to kill off dems voting base

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 17, 2020, 08:45 AM

27. Blue areas are high population density and high minority

So you have a disproportionate amount of non-white residents in the places with the highest transmission risks. Viruses spread best in crowded areas, crowded areas strongly trend to vote blue.

People of color also have a higher rate of several risk factors including obesity and hypertension

It's a virus, it can't be directed.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 09:59 PM

10. they don't care who dies

but it must feel like a bonus to racist repukes that it strikes POC harder

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 10:03 PM

11. they started demanding reopening when it became know it was killing non-whites more.

I don't believe it's unrelated.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 10:05 PM

12. The percentage of African Americans who have it and die from it is high in Chicago Our

mayor and governor have started various programs to promote more testing and they even have free programs for telehealth where they send BP cuffs and pulse oximeters for a few weeks with nurses calling daily. I think it has made a difference. For now we are on the other side of the curve unless it goes up from the protests.

In other states I could see how cutting services and not adding them could be used to kill minorities.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 10:16 PM

14. In Illinois, it's mostly white people who die from Covid19, but ...

In one of the Facebook pages I frequent, Population Connection's, the admin posted a Guardian article about racial disparities in healthcare, and that this included Covid19 healthcare as well.

Some troll named Kristov Randalov (no I'm not kidding) posted a pie chart from the Illinois Department of Health showing that in Illinois, Non-Hispanic Whites suffered 44% of the Covid19 deaths while Blacks suffered a smaller 28% and Hispanics suffered a yet smaller 20% of the Covid19 deaths. The pie chart dramatically illustrated that more Non-Hispanic Whites died than either Blacks or Hispanics.

And then he concluded that the Guardian article was "just more liberal B.S."

I posted:

Hmm, looking at Kristov's chart and comparing it to Illinois population statistics, it looks like Black and Hispanics combined are 32% of the Illinois population but have 48% of the Covid19 deaths, while Non-Hispanic Whites are 61% of the population but have 44% of the Covid19 deaths.

Doing the math, that means that the Covid19 death rate of Blacks and Hispanics combined are 2.1 times that of Non-Hispanic Whites.

Looking at Blacks and Hispanics separately, Blacks have 2.7 times the Covid19 death rate of Non-Hispanic Whites, while Hispanics have 1.6 times the Covid19 death rate of Non-Hispanic Whites.

Some people just can't seem to be able to grok the concept that one must also look at proportions of the populations, and not just the proportion of the deaths, in order to determine how each demographic is impacted.

Soon afterwards, Comrade Kristov deleted his post.

Illinois Covid19 stats: https://www.dph.illinois.gov/covid19/covid19-statistics

Illinois population: https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/IL

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Response to progree (Reply #14)

Wed Jun 17, 2020, 07:52 AM

24. Great post

Thanks

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 10:29 PM

15. the virus is colorblind ...

but those who are manipulating the outcome are not .. my take ?

culling the population is foremost 🙁

just a gut feeling,
✌🏼

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 10:45 PM

16. If so, it's also being used to kill old people and health care workers.

It's a virus. Its only purpose is to inject itself into a cell, replicate, and move on. It doesn't care about anything else, and it's not really alive.

Just like HIV wasn't used by right wing Christians to kill gay men, this isn't being used by anyone. Oh, I'll admit there might be a stray bigot out there who feels a little off and coughs whenever he gets near a POC, but it's not an organized effort.

What remains to be determined is why people with more melanin in their skin are more susceptible to severe illness. The easy guess would be reduced ability to synthesize vitamin D, along with high rates of lactose intolerance due to an inability to digest D fortified milk. I would suggest all POC get their D levels checked and if they're low, supplement to get them into the recommended range.

Another factor could very well be air quality, since POC are concentrated in areas with high pollution in many areas. Here in NM, San Juan County has a high death rate, 7.4%, that can't be explained any other way, the neighboring country has a rate under 5%, as does much of the state. The difference is the air quality, which is poor up in the 4 Corners area, often some of the worst in the country. If such is the case where anyone is reading this, the course is clear, VOTE. Get those bastards OUT. I will join you in that.

(Oh, and there is a tradeoff for that lower vitamin D synthesis, being able to tolerate solar radiation at low latitudes without developing widespread skin cancer or burning to a crisp. It's an evolutionary adaptation to equatorial areas, both dry and rainforest. It's just a liability at high latitudes without D3 replacement)

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Tue Jun 16, 2020, 10:45 PM

17. I thought that was always the point. And I've been hearing that for months.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Jun 17, 2020, 12:25 AM

18. Kill the disabled and poor people?

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Jun 17, 2020, 12:31 AM

19. I think it's more likely that the lack of access to healthcare is

causing higher numbers in minority groups... this question is a little ridiculous.

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Response to Luciferous (Reply #19)

Wed Jun 17, 2020, 04:15 AM

21. Sad thread indeed

As you indicated this is situational influence not conspiracy

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Response to Awsi Dooger (Reply #21)

Wed Jun 17, 2020, 07:53 AM

25. The situational influence is systemic racism

and complete disregard for senior citizens

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Wed Jun 17, 2020, 08:39 AM

26. Seriously, it's Trump supporters who are being encouraged into dangerous situations

by Trump.

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