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Mon Jun 15, 2020, 02:06 AM

So this is gonna last

another year???!

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cilla4progress Jun 2020 OP
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JI7 Jun 2020 #1
Hekate Jun 2020 #2
poli-junkie Jun 2020 #3
applegrove Jun 2020 #4
jaysunb Jun 2020 #5
applegrove Jun 2020 #6
cilla4progress Jun 2020 #10
applegrove Jun 2020 #13
AlexSFCA Jun 2020 #7
CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2020 #8
Initech Jun 2020 #11
CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2020 #20
duforsure Jun 2020 #9
Initech Jun 2020 #12
SoonerPride Jun 2020 #15
Initech Jun 2020 #16
SoonerPride Jun 2020 #19
Arazi Jun 2020 #29
SoonerPride Jun 2020 #14
Renew Deal Jun 2020 #17
Initech Jun 2020 #21
Renew Deal Jun 2020 #24
Initech Jun 2020 #26
USALiberal Jun 2020 #18
budkin Jun 2020 #22
jalan48 Jun 2020 #23
davsand Jun 2020 #25
mokawanis Jun 2020 #27
Initech Jun 2020 #28

Response to cilla4progress (Original post)

Mon Jun 15, 2020, 02:10 AM

1. ?

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Response to cilla4progress (Original post)

Mon Jun 15, 2020, 02:12 AM

2. Pandemic? Well, the Great Influenza of 1918 lasted 2 or 3 years before petering out...

...after killing 50 million worldwide.

So there's that.

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Response to cilla4progress (Original post)

Mon Jun 15, 2020, 02:14 AM

3. Minimal.

Still need a vaccine

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Response to cilla4progress (Original post)

Mon Jun 15, 2020, 02:16 AM

4. I saw my dad once for an outdoor visit. Now they've changed the rules at long term care centers

and i can only see him outside if i have had a covid-19 test that came back negative in the last two weeks. That means it will be window visits. My dad and i are not good on the phone. I miss him. He says he is sort of happy. He misses us but especially his friend and caregiver who was with me doing the outdoor visit last week. I thank the ancestors that the city run nursing home is so strict. But i miss him terribly. We all do. I cannot imagine if this goes on for another year. At least nobody i know has gotten sick. That is a blessing.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #4)

Mon Jun 15, 2020, 02:25 AM

5. Hugs nt

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Response to jaysunb (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 15, 2020, 02:27 AM

6. Thanks.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #4)

Mon Jun 15, 2020, 12:56 PM

10. My husband's mom

is isolated, too, though at home.

Hugs.

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Response to cilla4progress (Reply #10)

Mon Jun 15, 2020, 02:17 PM

13. Thanks.

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Response to cilla4progress (Original post)

Mon Jun 15, 2020, 03:00 AM

7. if we're lucky, only one more year...

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Response to cilla4progress (Original post)

Mon Jun 15, 2020, 03:09 AM

8. At least another year.

Patience will be forced upon us as this proceeds.

Someday, I hope we'll be able to look back on this.

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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #8)

Mon Jun 15, 2020, 01:03 PM

11. Me too.

A vaccine can't come fast enough. Even the worst pandemic in modern history only lasted 18 months. I can't imagine COVID lasting for more than that as people have been saying.

And as for this lasting forever? Dear god I hope not.

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Response to Initech (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 15, 2020, 02:41 PM

20. A vaccine might not happen. We don't have one for HIV or the common cold.

However, as covid19 moves through our population, it will possibly weaken and be subject to some measures that we've figured out in the meantime.

We will learn to live with it, not in its current form, but in some slightly less dangerous form. This is what I expect.

I do not expect that we will need to continue social distancing, or masking or other things that we find troublesome. But all of this will take time.

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Response to cilla4progress (Original post)

Mon Jun 15, 2020, 06:13 AM

9. It could be even longer than another year for this pandemic

Especially if this mutates, making it even more dangerous, and people refuse to take all of the necessary precautions , which they are, so I wouldn't count on this threat being over for at least several years. Then there is more possible virus problems ahead becoming a lot worse than with the corona virus. Business models will have to be changed a lot to make money with in our future, and many are gone for good, and many left are doomed from the lack of money, theirs and the customers. As long as trump is having rally's helping to spread this virus more , it will hurt all businesses as many more get it.

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Response to duforsure (Reply #9)

Mon Jun 15, 2020, 01:10 PM

12. Like I said, even the worst pandemic in history lasted only 18 months.

There's no way that this goes on forever. You can't keep us locked inside and chained to our computers forever. People need to be able to socialize with other people. Social isolation and distancing is hell. It is pretty much the literal definition of hell. We need to be able to leave the house and go out in public. You can't meet new people or build relationships in a 2" window with a web cam. Virtual cocktail hours, Zoom parties, and living room concerts are no way to live a life. We need to build real relationships with real people, travel, see our families, and even go out in society. Living at home 24 hours a day is a nightmare, it is not easy in the slightest.

We may have future coronaviruses to deal with down the road, but COVID will come and go, just like all modern diseases have. The key is to prevent future outbreaks with a competent government. Imagine where we would be if the Orange Douche wasn't in charge.

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Response to Initech (Reply #12)

Mon Jun 15, 2020, 02:22 PM

15. AIDS didn't go.

It took years and years for treatments to merely mitigate it.

Don't plan on a miracle.

Prepare for a changed lifestyle.

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Response to SoonerPride (Reply #15)

Mon Jun 15, 2020, 02:24 PM

16. I don't want a changed lifestyle. This one sucks beyond all recognition.

Seriously, this nightmare virus world is just not worth living in.

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Response to Initech (Reply #16)

Mon Jun 15, 2020, 02:38 PM

19. That's what most of my friends said about condoms. They're dead now.

Life changes and you adapt.

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Response to Initech (Reply #12)

Mon Jun 15, 2020, 03:49 PM

29. Are there any states that arent letting people be outside?

Patio dining has resumed in virtually every state (some have fully opened).

Parks and beaches are open pretty much everywhere too.

I've found 6 feet is actually not as big a problem as I thought it would be - you actually aren't that far apart. If you're nervous about being closer, wear a mask and go out with friends.

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Response to cilla4progress (Original post)

Mon Jun 15, 2020, 02:21 PM

14. Plan on at least TWO more years.

If it ends sooner than that we can rejoice.

But you should mentally prepare yourself for this lasting until 2022.


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Response to cilla4progress (Original post)

Mon Jun 15, 2020, 02:25 PM

17. More or less yes. I think this time next year should be a lot better

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #17)

Mon Jun 15, 2020, 02:41 PM

21. I really hope so.

I see a lot of signs that vaccines are making progress. I hope we get one by this time next year.

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Response to Initech (Reply #21)

Mon Jun 15, 2020, 03:14 PM

24. I'm not counting on that either way.

I just think that so many people will have had it that it won't be as much of a concern.

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #24)

Mon Jun 15, 2020, 03:37 PM

26. The NY Times has said that the pandemic will probably end socially before it ends medically.

They said that the reason for this is that people will get so fed up with the restrictions on how the virus invades their every day activities that they will trade off the risks of going out for catching the virus. Also add to that, perpetual boredom and the social isolation aspect of it. No one wants to be socially isolated, and there's only so much you can do on a Zoom call.

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Response to cilla4progress (Original post)

Mon Jun 15, 2020, 02:25 PM

18. Really? nt

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Response to cilla4progress (Original post)

Mon Jun 15, 2020, 02:43 PM

22. Yes, because there are so many idiots in this country

Sad but true.

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Response to cilla4progress (Original post)

Mon Jun 15, 2020, 02:46 PM

23. I think we are experiencing the new normal. Right now millions of Americans longing to

get back to the good old days are really in denial about our present situation.

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Response to cilla4progress (Original post)

Mon Jun 15, 2020, 03:18 PM

25. I think we all will modify some things in our lives.

I doubt it's all gonna just go away anytime soon--if ever. I do think we will all end up making some changes to our behaviors and our routines--and not all of them are unpleasant ones. Yeah, I'm not loving the fearsome parts at all, but once the docs figure out how to reliably and safely treat it, that should relent some. Not loving the mask thing. It's getting hotter. It's summer. Masks are just hot, I have yet to find one that isn't. I do have to admit, however, that wearing a mask when sick has been part of the culture in places other than the US, and I hope it will become common here in the US too. Flu cases might reduce some too!

I've come to appreciate the peace of being at home and not needing to be frenetically busy doing all the time. I've also come to realize just how much of my workdays were occupied with time fillers and bullshit. That aspect has been fairly liberating, if you want the truth. I have come to appreciate that people (not everyone, but a lot of them) have been more willing to speak to the neighbors when they are out walking. They call out greetings or comment on the weather or other mundane comments that acknowledge each other. I've found myself taking extra care to be kind lately. I've found my pace of living has slowed a bunch, and that's a good thing...

Find the blessings where you can, I guess.


Laura

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Response to cilla4progress (Original post)

Mon Jun 15, 2020, 03:41 PM

27. I have no doubt

We're pretty much screwed until a vaccine is found. And with the way it's being dealt with in the US I expect we're going to see tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands, of deaths.

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Response to mokawanis (Reply #27)

Mon Jun 15, 2020, 03:49 PM

28. And we're also not getting out of this without a competent administration in charge.

If Trump is elected, he'll ignore the pandemic and it will get worse and worse and worse. The death toll triples or even quadruples. If we elect Biden he will listen to experts and we'll eventually get a clear path to a full reopening of the country, and a restoration of the US's status in the world and in international health communities like the WHO. We'll also get the pandemic response team back and we'll get the CDC restored and the US's status in the WHO restored. If Trump gets reelected, none of this happens, and the pandemic lasts for the next decade, if not century.

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