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Sun Jun 14, 2020, 11:43 AM

Browns QB Baker Mayfield to kneel during anthem

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"Itís about equality and everybody being treated the same because we are all human. Itís been ignored for too long and that (is) my fault as well for not becoming more educated and staying silent.

If I lose fans, thatís OK. Iíve always spoken my mind. And thatís from the heart."

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jun/13/baker-mayfield-national-anthem-cleveland-browns

Way to go Baker!

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Reply Browns QB Baker Mayfield to kneel during anthem (Original post)
Bradshaw3 Jun 2020 OP
Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #1
empedocles Jun 2020 #4
Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #5
empedocles Jun 2020 #6
empedocles Jun 2020 #2
Raven123 Jun 2020 #3
Bradshaw3 Jun 2020 #7
Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #9
ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #10
Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #11
ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #12
Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #13
Yeehah Jun 2020 #8

Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Sun Jun 14, 2020, 11:46 AM

1. You're still stuck in Cleveland.

So if there's an ulterior motive, too bad.

I'm joking! He's probably genuine.

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 14, 2020, 11:53 AM

4. If he has a bad day, there may be a chant like, 'take a knee' - somewhere else

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Response to empedocles (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 14, 2020, 11:56 AM

5. He can be a reckless "gunslinger" sometimes.

So it wouldn't surprise me if he got demoted or traded eventually..

I hope he doesn't try to blame it on the knee-stuff if it happens.

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Response to empedocles (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 14, 2020, 11:57 AM

6. All qbs have their bad days, even on big winning teams.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Sun Jun 14, 2020, 11:52 AM

2. Hits on trump keep on coming

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Sun Jun 14, 2020, 11:53 AM

3. Re: fan loyalty: Bakers speaking isn't an issue. His playing is.

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Response to Raven123 (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 14, 2020, 12:00 PM

7. Wrong on both counts

His speaking out is an issue - look at the comments he received for proof of that. As for his playing, he was runner-up for rookie of the year two years ago, then fell off during his sophomore season, which often happens, and which was not entirely his fault since he was saddled with an inept coaching staff and a bad OL. Even with that, he has said he needs to play better and plans to do that with a new coaching staff, revamped line and a new attitude for himself. Good for him on that and his attitude about current events.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 14, 2020, 12:06 PM

9. What comments? Here?

I don't care if EVERY player takes a knee during the anthem. It's always been a non-issue for me!

My comment was a friendly jab at the Browns organization. The Bengals are terribly managed too.

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #9)

Sun Jun 14, 2020, 12:12 PM

10. My Bears Are No Shining Example Either

Major market. Only team within 200 miles.
Makes the playoffs 2 out of every 5 years.
Given the cash flow, it should be a rarity to not make the playoffs.
But, no!

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #10)

Sun Jun 14, 2020, 12:19 PM

11. Yeah, there's some contradictions to...

... the idea that major markets always have an advantage in sports.

Management at the top matters, just like this country as a whole while under Trump.

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #11)

Sun Jun 14, 2020, 12:34 PM

12. Talk To The Folks Who Worked For Sears

Top management was the ONLY problem!
A company that could have been Amazon when Bezos was in junior high disbanded their distribution systems, eliminated catalog sales, and overbuilt brick & mortar.
Those were 100% top management decisions.
If not for those idiotic decisions, Sears could be the world's 2nd biggest company!

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #12)

Sun Jun 14, 2020, 12:39 PM

13. Inflexible thinking!

I tend to prefer managers who "flip-flop" on ideas sometimes. It's often a more rational, scientific way of thinking... as long as it's not too flaky, I guess.

Basing decisions on evidence-based probabilities is best to me.

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Response to Bradshaw3 (Original post)

Sun Jun 14, 2020, 12:01 PM

8. Good for him!

This kid is alright in my book.

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