Black man murdered last night by Atlanta Police at a Wendys for running away from them... FUCK!

[Alex4Martinez]

(updated to indicate the man has died, additional details in a reply downthread)

Last night, detained for unknown reasons, the victim resisted and got loose, was tased but ran, then shots were fired out of frame.

It's just every fucking day, isn't it? If it wasn't for citizens and their phones and Twitter, we wouldn't learn about most of these.

https://www.11alive.com/article/news/crime/man-critically-injured-after-being-shot-by-atlanta-police-during-traffic-stop/85-b7faf368-0315-4db5-b863-4d6a4c140784

Link to tweet

[Alex4Martinez]

1. Updated: Crowds gathering at Wendy's. Police claim victim tried to use their taser against them.

Color me skeptical, but I don't think a taser, once fired, can be used again and if the victim was shot in the back while running away, it's difficult to see how he could in the same instant be a threat to the officer who shot him.

The victim has died, according to most recent report:

https://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/man-shot-killed-atlanta-police-wendy-drive-thru/rUUFN6yfvgsevgIc2Q7ZkJ/

[krispos42]

6. Tasers can be used as stun guns after being fired

Not as a ranged weapon; you have to swap in a new set of barbs. But it works as a handheld contact weapon.

Not excusing the murder, just informing.

[Alex4Martinez]

7. I did not know that, makes sense, thank you.

It's not clear if the victim was near enough to use the taser in this manner, or that he even had possession of it at the time he was shot, in the back.

[jayfish]

14. The Police Are Finally Admitting That A Taser Is A Deadly Weapon? -NT-

[bullwinkle428]

2. This sounds like the Walter Scott case all over again.

[soothsayer]

3. You think they'd be extra careful about use of deadly force

....these days. Why oh why would they do this.

[Alex4Martinez]

4. Atlanta PD has a crap record on managing their out of control cops. This is also recent:

Two additional Atlanta police officers were fired Wednesday over a dramatic incident involving two college students who were yanked from a car stuck in traffic during a large protest against racial inequality and police brutality, according to CBS Atlanta affiliate WGCL-TV. Two other officers were previously relieved of duty less than 24 hours after the May 30 encounter.

WGCL-TV identified the newly fired officers as Sergeant Lonnie Hood and officer Armon Jones. The four fired officers and two others still on the force all face criminal charges stemming from the encounter.

The May 30 incident unfolded live on CBS affiliate WGCL-TV. The officers used a stun gun on driver Messiah Young, 22, and passenger Teniyah Pilgrim, 20.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/2-more-atlanta-cops-fired-over-pulling-college-students-from-car-at-george-floyd-protest/

[Ilsa]

5. Young's left arm was broken, they abused him so badly.

And Pilgrim's car was damaged when police broke the window to atrack the driver.

[Tipperary]

11. The article points out that 61% of their sworn force are black officers.

As are those fired/charge in the attack on the college students.

[plimsoll]

17. I'm not convinced that any cop doesn't have to comply with their culture.

Choosing not to comply with the norms of your group is hard in the best of times. So I'm not sure color changes anything. They work in a culture that seems to encourage or approve of violence against people of color, or people who question their "right" to do what they intend to do.

[Alex4Martinez]

18. Suggesting the root problem of an institutional culture of violence that transcends race.

Not only are victims not exclusively black or POC, perpetrating officers are not exclusively white.

[Roy Rolling]

24. Too Complex

I totally agree, but the context is important. Even though police perpetrators are sometimes black, that means they are simply black, prejudiced officers against African-Americans.

It says the culture is corrupt, and the problem doesn’t transcend, is spreads to both races. Prejudice and hate can be harbored in the hearts of any race, and it does.

Statistical, selective enforcement of is the problem. And it’s the culture.

[Hav]

8. Unless it was an extremely dangerous person on the run

who would harm others, it should never ever be ok to use deadly force against someone who runs away. Lose some pounds and catch him if it was that important to detain him.

Not saying it's great to resist an arrest. On the other hand, considering all the recent executions by the police after being detained, it's understandable that people would freak out and fear for their lifes. A fight or flight reaction is understandable.

[Baclava]

9. Atlanta going hot tonight? as in General Sherman flame hot, looks bad when guy was shot running AWAY

[plimsoll]

19. You mean shot escaping don't you.

Sarcasm.

[Baclava]

21. Well he did just kick their asses and get away, need more video, body cams?

[plimsoll]

23. No doubt.

But saying shot in the back makes it clear that the police officer wasn't in danger any longer. So you use language that makes it obvious that there was an offense to "punish."

[Baclava]

25. 'Set Phasers to stun!' We need new non lethal weaponry, or its back to nightsticks

[Solomon]

10. Does anyone know what he was being arrested for?

[Baclava]

12. Officers say they found the man sleeping in his car in a Wendy's drive-thru, blocking traffic

They reportedly conducted a sobriety test, but when they attempted to arrest the man, a struggle ensued.

Deputy Chief Timothy Peek, with Atlanta police, described officers' numerous attempts to deploy Tasers.

"Ultimately, when the officer used the Taser, it was ineffective for the suspect," Peek said. "It did not stop the aggression of the fight."

Peek added preliminary information shows Brooks was able to take an officer's Taser from him and use it against the officers.

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/man-killed-in-officer-involved-shooting-at-atlanta-fast-food-restaurant

[Happy Hoosier]

13. Jeez, I wonder why a black man might fear getting arrested.....

[Baclava]

15. They need stronger Tasers, obviously

[LeftInTX]

35. I read he passed out in the drive through, not the parking lot

If so, this would be a DWI

[Phoenix61]

16. I didn't realize DUI was a death penalty

offense. If he was given a field sobriety test they had his name, address, and vehicle for that matter. If he failed the test how far or fast could he run?

[Captain Zero]

20. Exactly let him run, later charge him with fleeing an officer

resisting arrest.

[jaxexpat]

27. That's the whole thing right there.

Police don't let fleeing people get away even when they know they'll apprehend them within 24 hrs. Their mission in every case is to control the situation. They're not going to listen to anybody because they have the power and the license to CONTROL everybody. Reasonableness on the part of the accused does not necessarily help the situation, however, total submission tends to up the survival odds. Resistance is rewarded with unequal force.

[IronLionZion]

22. You'd be surprised what gets instant death penalty on the street

when they find efficiencies by cutting out the trial, jury, lawyers, any hope of due process, etc.

[uponit7771]

26. I pray there were witness's the video doesn't show the guy being shot in the back. The murder cops

... can say the guy turned around or reached for something like they usually do to justify murder.

[Baclava]

33. He did turn around and shoot taser at chasing cops, new video clearly shows it

[live love laugh]

41. How does one shoot a taser? I thought tasers had to have direct body contact. nt

[Baclava]

42. Fires out little wires with dart like tips, goes a good 25 ft or so, not the same as stun gun

[SharonClark]

28. Shoot to kill. . .

when there is no risk to the cops or citizens lives makes no sense.

It’s so easy to raise a gun and pop a couple of rounds. Just like other gang members.

[mvd]

29. Yes, need to see the enhanced video, but from what I know..

If he did have a taser over his shoulder (a taser is not usually a deadly weapon), couldn’t the cop have brought him down without shooting him in the body? And he wasn’t even approaching the officers. While maybe not murder like Floyd, it certainly seems like the police used excessive force.

[roamer65]

30. ACAB.

[TexasBushwhacker]

31. It is not a capital offense to run away from a cop!!!

Even if he has prior offenses, at most it's a state jail felony, and that's in Texas!

[Baclava]

32. and here's the end of the chase video, 28:30 mark, guy turns and fires taser then is shot

The guy can be seen running, shooting the taser over his shoulder at the cop at 28:30 of Wendy's tape

&feature=youtu.be

[Alex4Martinez]

36. A tazer is less-than-lethal and should not be met with lethal force. It's a bad shooting.

Thank you for posting the video that needed to be seen for context.

[Goodheart]

34. This is MURDER.

I see somebody who was pissed that his tazer got taken away and was likely escaping. No reasonable person can believe that either of those officers feared for their own lives or even their own safety.

[Baclava]

37. Protesters now blocking I-75 in Atlanta, it begins, teargas and flashbangs at Wendys

[Alex4Martinez]

38. Good. This is what we have to do.

Lesser measures don't seem to have been working.

[Baclava]

39. Wendy's is burning, hotlanta gonna get hotter

[live love laugh]

40. That's wreckless on the cops' part. All those people around and they're shooting. Ridiculous. nt