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Wed Jun 10, 2020, 04:12 PM

 

Morbidly, COVID 19 is Trumps only hope to win

One thing I noticed about this forum in the month or so I've been here. And it is many people donít want to deal with particular issues of self-reflection.

So here goes itóan ugly truth.


This is why, as militant as I am, I WAS TOTALLY AGAINST ALL THOSE PROTESTS IN THE STREETS.

Has it dawned on some people that at 30 thousand deaths a month COVID can kill enough black folks and people inclined against Trump just to get him over in a few swing states?

We already know black folks are affected much more than white people.

And thousands of Liberal minded and black people are running around in the streets with an infectious deadly disease rampant.

Donít think Trumpís people havenít thought of this

And may have deliberately riled up the left so they can get the virus.

I hope Iím wrong.

But remember Trump won those Midwest swing states by only thousands of votes.





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Reply Morbidly, COVID 19 is Trumps only hope to win (Original post)
zak247 Jun 2020 OP
sandensea Jun 2020 #1
redstatebluegirl Jun 2020 #2
zak247 Jun 2020 #4
redstatebluegirl Jun 2020 #6
Squinch Jun 2020 #3
tinrobot Jun 2020 #5
redstatebluegirl Jun 2020 #7
zak247 Jun 2020 #8
tinrobot Jun 2020 #11
LizBeth Jun 2020 #9
zak247 Jun 2020 #10
LizBeth Jun 2020 #14
zak247 Jun 2020 #21
LizBeth Jun 2020 #22
SlogginThroughIt Jun 2020 #25
LizBeth Jun 2020 #26
smirkymonkey Jun 2020 #28
RhodeIslandOne Jun 2020 #24
Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #12
zak247 Jun 2020 #13
marmar Jun 2020 #18
zak247 Jun 2020 #20
Initech Jun 2020 #15
PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2020 #16
Initech Jun 2020 #17
PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2020 #19
zak247 Jun 2020 #23
Awsi Dooger Jun 2020 #27

Response to zak247 (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 04:16 PM

1. I'm sure it's crossed his mind

The Fat Bastard isn't adamantly against extending vote-by-mail just for the heck of it.

He doesn't blow a fart without some sinister - if often stupid - reason.

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Response to zak247 (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 04:16 PM

2. I sure hope you are wrong here, but I would not put it past them to do this.

For us to win in November we have to get people who didn't vote last time or ones who voted third party last time to show up and vote. A lot of people who voted for Obama in 2012 stayed home or voted third party. Voters of all colors.

It pains me to think that the Orange menace would want to kill people to win but he would.

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Response to redstatebluegirl (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 04:22 PM

4. SKILLFUL MEANS

 


Iím not saying Trump planned this, but he may think he can exploit it.

Also, I point out this is a self-inflicted wound. I knew those goddam people in the thousands SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN OUT IN THOSE STREETS.

I understand the cause, I am ALL FOR THE CAUSE, but common sense should have ruled the day, not political emotionalism. WISDOM.

What the Buddhist call SKILLFUL MEANS


I hope and pray since I noticed most of them wore masks, the COVID doesn't spike.

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Response to zak247 (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 04:23 PM

6. The ones locally were the same, lots of masks.

I did not go, my immune system and age tell me to sit down.

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Response to zak247 (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 04:22 PM

5. He'll make up for it in MAGA rallies.

Protesters were mostly wearing masks.

MAGA idiots do not. They will be proportionally harder hit.

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Response to tinrobot (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 04:24 PM

7. I would guess most of them have some kind of underlying health condition based on age and

their physical condition.

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Response to tinrobot (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 04:24 PM

8. see your point

 

I am not going to wish for people to get COVID, but I see your point.

Do you see mine?

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Response to zak247 (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 04:32 PM

11. I absolutely see your point. I wanted to protest last week, but I stayed home.

We are definitely going to see a lot more protest-related infections in the coming weeks.

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Response to zak247 (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 04:27 PM

9. One of the things I have been impressed with is the number of people wearing a mask. Sometimes an

injustice overrides all things.

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Response to LizBeth (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 04:30 PM

10. no way to justify

 

The problem with that is then people who the left criticized like churchgoers and COVID deniers can say their cause is more important.
You can't tell one person their cause isn't worth crap but yours is.

Thereís no way to justify what they did IMO.


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Response to zak247 (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 04:52 PM

14. One is getting haircuts and the other is murdering black men and systematic racist abuse. I disagree

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Response to LizBeth (Reply #14)

Thu Jun 11, 2020, 01:00 AM

21. Both excuses are BS

 

Its a protest about police brutality, it's a cause that they presumed is more critical that the threat of spreading the virus. Fine. But the COVID deniers cause is the 1st amendment. Thatís important to them.

It's arrogant and demeaning to say my cause is worth the risk but your isnít.

You cant degrade someone's cause and at the same time claiming yours is superior because its police brutality over the 1st amendment.

I think their excuse is BS, and I think the Floyd protestors excuse is also BS and hypocritical.



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Response to zak247 (Reply #21)

Thu Jun 11, 2020, 01:04 AM

22. Your argument fails.

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Response to LizBeth (Reply #22)

Thu Jun 11, 2020, 01:26 AM

25. Agreed. Apples to cinderblocks comparison.

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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Reply #25)

Thu Jun 11, 2020, 01:27 AM

26. +1

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Response to zak247 (Reply #21)

Thu Jun 11, 2020, 05:06 AM

28. Enjoy your brief stay.



You aren't fooling anyone, you know.

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Response to LizBeth (Reply #9)

Thu Jun 11, 2020, 01:15 AM

24. Masks are not the be all and end all of protection

 

They may be handy for the twenty minutes youíre in the grocery store, but amongst thousands chanting for hours?

Nevermind the lack of hand washing ability in a crowded public square.

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Response to zak247 (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 04:35 PM

12. Then why encourage his supporters to not wear masks...

... and not social distance?

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Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 04:39 PM

13. That may change

 

Thatís easy.


The numbers speak.

All Trump has to do to win is win two or three of those swing states where black folks stayed home without Obama.
Thatís true in any presidential election.

The black folks who voted for Obama were likely the ones protesting the most.


Also, if he spreads it amongst his kind, he still keeps the virus going which at this point he may feel is in his interest.

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Response to zak247 (Reply #13)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 07:16 PM

18. "The black folks who voted for Obama were likely the ones protesting the most."


Based on what evidence? .... A lot of the people protesting weren't even old enough to vote for Obama.

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Response to marmar (Reply #18)

Thu Jun 11, 2020, 12:51 AM

20. I mean the liberal outlook of the protestors

 

And the white protestors as well along with the black ones are progressive to liberal very likely Obama supporters.

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Response to zak247 (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 04:54 PM

15. Well, let's see what happens on the 26th.

That's two weeks after these protests.

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Response to Initech (Reply #15)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 05:41 PM

16. Much sooner than that.

From the CDC:
The incubation period for COVID-19 is thought to extend to 14 days, with a median time of 4-5 days from exposure to symptoms onset. One study reported that 97.5% of persons with COVID-19 who develop symptoms will do so within 11.5 days of SARS-CoV-2 infection.


However, the protests were outside, lots of participants were wearing masks, and so the infection risk isn't all that great. Not like going to church and singing in the choir.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #16)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 07:13 PM

17. Unlike the MAGA reopen protests...

Where no one was social distancing and no one was wearing masks, those are most likely the cause of the recent spikes. I would be shocked if they weren't.

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Response to Initech (Reply #17)

Wed Jun 10, 2020, 11:39 PM

19. Bingo.

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Response to zak247 (Original post)

Thu Jun 11, 2020, 01:06 AM

23. Masks

 


The protestors are all great people and had a great cause but they risked COVID spread. One cant have one's cake and eat it too.

They risked the spread and may have to face the consequences...That's life.


And now the deniers will use that to further their stupid ideas about the 1st amendment and this thing can be a huge s___ sandwich.

The best thing we can hope for is that the majority of them were wearing masks so hopefully that might have helped tremendously.

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Response to zak247 (Original post)

Thu Jun 11, 2020, 04:34 AM

27. Summary is correct but not for the reason specified

Trump needs something to shake up the dynamic. It is not impossible coronavirus eventually breaks in his favor. That seems inconceivable now but it is amazing how incumbents can benefit from one variable after another. If Republicans had held the White House for multiple terms then Trump would really be in jeopardy. But defending only one GOP term he still holds immense benefit of a doubt. As I've mentioned countless times, only Jimmy Carter has lost in this scenario in more than a century...incumbent whose party has held the White House only one term.

The deaths from coronavirus will break rather evenly among the two parties. That's the way these things shake out when the numbers are so high. It is similar to the nonsense that Democrats would gain millions of votes from restored voting rights to felons in Florida.

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