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Tue Jun 2, 2020, 08:28 AM

two looters dead in Philly last night

One shot attempting to loot a gun shop by the store owner (occurred inside the store)
https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/south-philly-gun-shop-owner-shoots-kills-looter-police-say/2416373/

There was a string of ATM bombings last night in Philly as well
https://6abc.com/several-atms-vandalized-overnight-in-philly/6226433/

It appears the bomber messed up eventually and fatally blew himself up
https://www.fox29.com/news/police-man-24-dies-in-attempted-atm-explosion
(excuse the Fox article for the last one, only source I could find)

Sounds like some more serious thieves are using this unrest as cover. The group robbing the gunshop were armed and organized, and the ATM bomber is also not your common rioter.

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Response to Amishman (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 08:48 AM

1. "career criminals"?

Do you have a link to that?

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:00 AM

4. inference on my part mostly based on the ATM bomber

philly has had periodic ATM thefts using explosives for years, but never many in a night like this

but you are right, it does have a bad tone to it, 'more serious thieves' is probably more accurate and doesn't have the same baggage. I'll change it

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Response to Amishman (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:27 AM

16. How about paid agitators?

...'cause it really looks way more like that to me.

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Response to Amishman (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 08:48 AM

2. Hard To Believe

three guys thought looting a gunshop was a good idea. They were shot by the owner, who, not unsurprisingly, decided his store was a possible target of looters and decided to stay there overnight.

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Response to RobinA (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 08:52 AM

3. They chose....poorly.

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Response to Amishman (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:13 AM

5. Aw that's too bad.

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Response to Amishman (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:30 AM

6. They are "looters" and "rioters" by default at places BreitFart.

Words matter. We need to stop using the favorite go-to phrases that both doctrinaire racists and our lying corporate media uses. They should be properly described as "protestors" until we have all the facts regarding these individual incidents.

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Response to jcmaine72 (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:36 AM

8. A group of armed people break into a gun store using bolt cutters in the middle of the night

and you would prefer that they be described as "protestors"?

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Response to Dial H For Hero (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:44 AM

9. Maybe they're simply burglars then.

Why are they immediately being connected to the protests? Use of the word "looter" implies (at least as our media has been using that word) that they were part a demonstration and decided to commit an act of burglary. How do we know the crime wasn't premeditated? Who brings bolt cutters to a march?

Never trust our media. There's always more to these stories that they never deign to cover later on because they can't drum up fear and clicks with the truth.

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Response to jcmaine72 (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:56 AM

10. words do matter, which is why these are accurately described as looters

Using explosives to destroy then rob an ATM is not a protest, it is theft and a violent crime.

an armed group breaking into a gun shop is not an act of protest either.

by attempting to get rioters and looters considered to be protestors, you are doing the right's work for them and undermining those peacefully protesting to try and bring about change.

loot
/lo͞ot/
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verb
gerund or present participle: looting
steal goods from (a place), typically during a war or riot.
"police confronted the rioters who were looting shops"

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Response to Amishman (Reply #10)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:59 AM

11. Bullshit.

See my post above. If they're burglars, call them that. The word looter is a loaded term being used by our scumbag media and the weak-minded to smear otherwise peaceful protests.

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Response to jcmaine72 (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:02 AM

12. nope, completely accurate per the definition of the word

and I will restate that including these violent crimes as part of the overall protest is absolutely undermining the actual protests

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Response to Amishman (Reply #12)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:04 AM

13. Go ahead and carry the corporate media's foul-smelling water if you that's what makes you happy.

Have fun.

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Response to jcmaine72 (Reply #13)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:10 AM

15. exact same back to you

because you are doing exactly what you accuse me of

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Response to jcmaine72 (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 10:05 AM

14. Sorry, but if you steal goods from a store during a riot, you are by definition a looter, as per the

dictionary.

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Response to Amishman (Original post)

Tue Jun 2, 2020, 09:32 AM

7. Play stupid games...

Iím not even going to say I feel bad for them because I donít.

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