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Thu May 21, 2020, 03:55 PM

Never forget! "Calm Down. We'll Be Fine No Matter Who Wins"

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Americans are living now through the worst pandemic in a century and the severest economic crisis since the Great Depression. At every turn, [Impeached} President Donald Trump has made the crises worse. Had somebody else been president in December 2019—Hillary Clinton, Jeb Bush—fewer Americans would have met untimely deaths; fewer Americans would now be unemployed; fewer businesses would be heading toward bankruptcy.
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Not Trump alone, but the great political party behind him, is working to ensure that election is as unfree and unfair as possible. In that effort, they have mobilized the active or tacit support of millions of Americans.
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Trump’s followers live in an isolated knowledge community that has developed its own situational ethics. They wanted to lock up Hillary Clinton for sending and receiving emails on a personal server, not caring even slightly when Ivanka Trump did the exact same thing or when Trump outright blabbed to the Russian foreign minister secrets much more vital than anything Clinton could possibly have risked.
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Democracy does not fly on autopilot. If the people responsible for the institutions of democracy will not do the job, the job will not be done. While the job goes undone, the United States and the world careen toward conflict and crisis. - David Frum, The Atlantic

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Calm down. We’ll Be Fine No Matter Who Wins - repost from Washington Post 11/07/16

But here's some of what it said: If Trump wins, he’ll be held more or less in check by the House and Senate because that’s the way our system of government is set up. Not even Republicans are eager to follow Trump’s lead.

There won’t be a wall. He won’t impose any religion-based immigration restrictions, because even Trump isn’t that lame-brained. He’ll dress up and behave at state dinners and be funny when called upon. He’ll even invite the media to the White House holiday party. He won’t nuke Iran for rude gestures. He won’t assault women. He and Vladimir Putin will hate each other, respectfully.

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Thu May 21, 2020, 04:01 PM

1. What the hell is he smoking! nt

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Response to doc03 (Reply #1)

Thu May 21, 2020, 04:04 PM

2. Sorry, that's not the title to his story. It's 180* reversed.

Click on the link to The Atlantic.

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Response to ffr (Reply #2)

Thu May 21, 2020, 04:09 PM

3. So that is what he thought in 2016, I guess

he underestimated how low the Republicans could go.

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Response to doc03 (Reply #3)

Thu May 21, 2020, 04:14 PM

4. Not even close. He uses it as one example of how people got it all wrong.

You won't understand unless you read what he posted.

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Thu May 21, 2020, 04:20 PM

5. Idiots back in 2000 were speculating that it didn't matter who was the president

And then we got George W. Bush, who brought us: 9/11, a decade of fear of terrorism, the Iraq war, and the Great Recession.

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Response to DSandra (Reply #5)

Thu May 21, 2020, 04:38 PM

9. +1

And the whole budget reversal away from balanced budgets back to deficit spending. GWB didn't add $5T to the debt. If people looked, Clinton & Dems put us on track for another $5.2T is surpluses had GWB/Rethugs done nothing. Instead he ended with a huge great recession and public debt standing at $10.2T.

And because Gore didn't win convincingly, we got 5 to 4'ed up the ass!

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Thu May 21, 2020, 04:20 PM

6. That repost from WaPo was written by Ken Larsen on 11/7/16, not David Frum.

Larsen: "Thanks to the brilliance of our tripartite government, nobody gets to be dictator. And despite what nearly everyone seems to believe, our 'broken government' works pretty well most of the time." Thanks, Ken. So much for your Pollyannish world view.

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Response to sop (Reply #6)

Thu May 21, 2020, 04:34 PM

8. I wrote it was a repost of WaPo, not a repost of what D. Frum said in the WaPo

Please read his article. It'll explain itself to you. For that matter, read what I posted. The OP title comes from within his article.

Geesh!

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Response to ffr (Reply #8)

Thu May 21, 2020, 04:57 PM

11. Isn't that what I just wrote?

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Response to sop (Reply #11)

Thu May 21, 2020, 06:09 PM

12. Are you just pulling my leg to waste my time?

I wrote: Calm down. We’ll Be Fine No Matter Who Wins - repost from Washington Post 11/07/16

Nowhere in what I posted do I assert that David Frum wrote the WaPo article.

You wrote: "That repost from WaPo was written by Ken Larsen on 11/7/16, not David Frum."

In other words, you invent a strawman fallacy and shoot it down, but what you shot down has nothing to do with what I had posted.

So no, that isn't what you wrote. Care to triple down?

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Thu May 21, 2020, 04:47 PM

10. Confusing

Kathleen Parker wrote the WaPo opinion piece titled Calm down. We’ll be fine no matter who wins. published November 4, 2016 https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/calm-down-well-be-fine-no-matter-who-wins/2016/11/04/e5ca3c32-a2d3-11e6-a44d-cc2898cfab06_story.html

She is still expressing her opinions. Here is a recent one on Twitter.

"The election can’t come soon enough."

Come on, calm down Kathleen.


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Response to Yonnie3 (Reply #10)

Thu May 21, 2020, 06:10 PM

13. It would probably do a lot of good to clear up the confusion, if you went ahead and read the article

I'd think anyway.

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Response to ffr (Reply #13)

Thu May 21, 2020, 06:20 PM

15. I did n/t

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