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Tue May 19, 2020, 09:07 PM

Whatever happened to First, Do No Harm? "Trump Allies Lining Up Doctors to Prescribe Rapid Opening"


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“Anybody who joins one of our coalitions is vetted,” Murtaugh said Monday. “And so quite obviously, all of our coalitions espouse policies and say things that are, of course, exactly simpatico with what the president believes. ... The president has been outspoken about the fact that he wants to get the country back open as soon as possible.”

https://apnews.com/4ee1a3a8d631b454f645b2a8d9597de7

So now he's got members of the medical profession going against medical advice?

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Reply Whatever happened to First, Do No Harm? "Trump Allies Lining Up Doctors to Prescribe Rapid Opening" (Original post)
NoRoadUntravelled May 2020 OP
elleng May 2020 #1
The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #2
Newest Reality May 2020 #3
stillcool May 2020 #4
NoRoadUntravelled May 2020 #6
tulipsandroses May 2020 #5
tanyev May 2020 #7
Joinfortmill May 2020 #8

Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Tue May 19, 2020, 09:08 PM

1. NOT their BUSINESS!

HUGE numbers of chicken-hearted people, never imagined such!

JUST SAY NO!

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Tue May 19, 2020, 09:12 PM

2. Being book-smart, as a doctor must be to finish medical school, doesn't mean

a person isn't completely stupid otherwise or blinded by ideology. Ben Carson, for example, was said to have been a brilliant neurosurgeon, but he's a Trump ideologue and in all respects other than his narrow professional field he seems to be as dumb as a box of hammers.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #2)

Tue May 19, 2020, 09:19 PM

3. Yup!

I would add that being "for sale" is another factor. Education levels or degrees don't mean you don't sell to the highest bidder. Ethics are another matter. In a way, everybody does have their price and the payoff can be financial wealth, power, connections, prestige, etc.

Ah, won't go into it, but there have been other, destructive, yet disastrous ideologies that had their share of highly intelligent, skilled adherents. Many had more than one degree, etc.

It works both ways.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Tue May 19, 2020, 09:20 PM

4. I don't know how many Doctors..

are in this country, but finding 27 Right-Wing quacks shouldn't be that hard.

On the May 11 call, Nancy Schulze, a GOP activist who is married to former Rep. Dick Schulze, R-Pa., said she had given the campaign a list of 27 doctors prepared to defend Trump’s reopening push.

“There is a coalition of doctors who are extremely pro-Trump that have been preparing and coming together for the war ahead in the campaign on health care,” Schulze said on the call. “And we have doctors that are … in the trenches, that are saying ‘It’s time to reopen.’”

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Schlapp’s husband agreed the president is getting criticized for not appearing to follow the advice of public health experts. Matt Schlapp is chairman of the American Conservative Union, which hosts the annual Conservative Political Action Conference attended by conservative luminaries.

“The president’s going to get tagged by the fake news media as being irresponsible and not listening to doctors,” Matt Schlapp said on the call. “And so we have to gird his loins with a lot of other people. So I think what Nancy’s talking about … this is the critical juncture that we highlight them.”

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Response to stillcool (Reply #4)

Tue May 19, 2020, 09:34 PM

6. Every day we fall further into the rabbit hole.

I'm hoping there's an end to it somewhere.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Tue May 19, 2020, 09:23 PM

5. The health care community is a slice of society. You will find good and bad

Just see the docs that run pill mills. Some people will do anything for a buck or access to power. I have worked with docs and nurses that said all kinds of wacko shit. One of my co-workers - frequently reminds me that she left her church because the pastor said if you vote for trump you are not a good Christian.On my previous job, there were docs and nurses that were against the affordable care act before it passed.

Whenever I go to conferences or lectures, there's usually 1 or 2 outspoken Trump fans.

And if you garner to one of the popular nursing message boards that I belong to, yes, you will find Trump fans there too.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Tue May 19, 2020, 09:43 PM

7. Why listen to competent doctors and scientists when you can spend all your resources

on photo ops, propaganda and gaslighting?

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Tue May 19, 2020, 10:24 PM

8. Some docs suck. Their people first.

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