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Mon May 18, 2020, 10:21 AM

Franklin Roosevelt Put Young People Back to Work. Let's Do It Again.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/18/opinion/coronavirus-unemployment-youth.html


A Civilian Conservation Corps enrollee planting a tree circa 1938.Credit...Fotosearch/Getty Images

The Depression-era Civilian Conservation Corps helped build America at a time of national crisis.

By Collin O’Mara
Mr. O’Mara is the president and C.E.O. of the National Wildlife Federation.

Nearly 7.7 million American workers younger than 30 are now unemployed and three million dropped out of the labor force in the past month. Combined that’s nearly one in three young workers, by far the highest rate since the country started tracking unemployment by age in 1948.

Nearly 40 percent worked in the devastated retail and food service sectors. And as the most recently hired, young workers are typically the first let go and often the last rehired, especially those of color.

As our country’s leaders consider a range of solutions to address this crisis, there’s one fix that will put millions of young Americans directly to work: a 21st-century version of the Civilian Conservation Corps.

In 1933, when President Franklin Roosevelt created the C.C.C., he was facing, as we are today, the possibility of a lost generation of young people. The conservation-minded president’s idea was to hire young unemployed men for projects in forestry, soil conservation and recreation. By 1942, the 3.4 million participants in “Roosevelt’s Tree Army” had planted more than three billion trees, built hundreds of parks and wildlife refuges and completed thousands of miles of trails and roads.

While the corps was not perfect — only men were hired, work camps were segregated, and some projects caused ecological damage — the C.C.C. was the most expansive and successful youth employment program in American history. It also played a crucial role in forging the Greatest Generation, which defeated fascism and built the strongest economy in the world. Today, there’s plenty to do for a revitalized conservation corps that would put young Americans back to work.

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I know of some crumbling infrastructure that could use some sprucing up.

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Reply Franklin Roosevelt Put Young People Back to Work. Let's Do It Again. (Original post)
Dennis Donovan May 18 OP
mitch96 May 18 #1
catrose May 18 #2
Eyeball_Kid May 18 #3
virgogal May 18 #4
LisaM May 18 #5
mitch96 May 18 #7
xmas74 May 18 #11
global1 May 18 #6
Dem4Life1102 May 18 #8
hunter May 18 #9
PoindexterOglethorpe May 18 #10
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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Mon May 18, 2020, 10:29 AM

1. My Uncles worked in the CCC camps and loved it.. made a bit of money too

Most of which got sent back to my grandmother..We did not have much growing up.
To me this makes a lot of sense. I keep hearing about how our roads, highways and bridges are in need of repair... This would be a great time to implement a fix to our infrastructure.
How to do it??? beyond my pay grade... I'm clueless on this point...
YMMV
m

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Response to mitch96 (Reply #1)

Mon May 18, 2020, 10:40 AM

2. I grew up in Louisiana

Family was scattered all over the state. One of my chief memories were all the road signs "WPA 193-," long before I knew what the WPA was. John Maynard Keynes advised FDR to hire people to dig holes and fill them up again, if there was nothing better for them to do. But there were many things better to do, and individuals and society were so much better off.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Mon May 18, 2020, 10:44 AM

3. It SHOULD begin with a summertime rush to rebuild infrastructure. It won't.

Trumpy-boy could do a lot to keep his failures away from public scrutiny. An infrastructure program could be one of them, but Trumpy-boy won't be able to figure out how a massive endeavor like rebuilding on a national scale can hand over billions to his favorite cronies and NOT be uncovered by his political opposition. Trumpy-boy is all about corruption. That's why he hasn't moved on "infrastructure week." Remember that version of happy-talk?

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Mon May 18, 2020, 10:50 AM

4. The youth today are different,most wouldn't take those jobs.

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Response to virgogal (Reply #4)

Mon May 18, 2020, 11:38 AM

5. I was just thinking that.

How do you work around that? Some of the CCC were college kids.

On one of my summers during college, I worked a government-funded job building nature trails and clearing brush. It was hard, but I liked it (a lot of what I did was grunt work, pushing wheelbarrows full of rocks, clearing weeds, carrying railroad ties).

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Response to virgogal (Reply #4)

Mon May 18, 2020, 12:03 PM

7. "most wouldn't take those jobs." Promise to pay a portion or all of the

student loans... they will come a runnin'
Pay med student loan and have them work one,two or three years in underserved areas..
Lots of carrots to dangle in front of them....
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Response to virgogal (Reply #4)

Mon May 18, 2020, 12:58 PM

11. Unless those jobs offer real training.

Infrastructure jobs are construction welding, heavy equipment,etc. They can include line work, HVAC, solar, and so much more. Work with union leaders on what the training should involve. Turn some of the programs into an apprenticeship.

Take a kid in an impoverished area, not ready for college but wants to work. There are no jobs. The only one sniffing around is the military. Tell him or her that there's a program where you will work hard but you'll see new places and when you're done you'll have paid training in a decent paying field. More will sign up than you think.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Mon May 18, 2020, 11:41 AM

6. My Dad Was In The CCC's In 1940 - One Camp In Eastern Oregon & The Other In Washington.....

He was 17y/o at the time. In Eastern Oregon - he worked on building roads and creating irrigation for the ranches and farms of the area. In the State of Washington - he fought forest fires and hauled rocks used for the building of the Coulee Dam. I remember him saying it was the best year of his life.

The boys of the CCC's made $30.00 per month - $25.00 was sent home to their families back home and $5.00 went into their pockets for spending money. They were known as the $1.00 a day boys. Camps were built in every State and their very presence in communities that they inhabited - boosted the economy in those communities. At the end of the CCC's many of the boys ultimately settled down in those same communities and built their lives around those communities.

The CCC's restored almost 4,000 historical structures and developed over 800 state parks. They also prevented soil erosion on over 20 million acres of land, stocked more than 1 billion fish, planted three billion trees, surveyed and mapped millions of acres and hundreds of lakes, installed approximately 5,000 miles of water-supply structures, built over 63,000 buildings and more than 7,000 impounding and large-diversion dams, constructed more than 27,000 miles of fences and over 3,000 fire lookout towers, improved 1,000's of beaches, built 1,000's of miles of foot-, horse- and truck trails, assisted the Bureau of Biological Survey in developing an nationwide system of wildlife refuges and performed more than a thousand other similar types of tasks.

This whole effort grew out of a need to get the country back on foot from the Great Depression and was a critical part of FDR's New Deal. The program ran from 1933 to 1942. It ended soon after Pearl Harbor.

I call the boys of the CCC's - the forgotten men of the Greatest Generation. Since I learned more about the CCC's in an attempt to know my Dad better (I lost him at a very young age) I found out that most people don't even know that the CCC's existed and don't know of the contribution that they made to the building of this country.

I feel very impassioned that American's learn about the important contribution that these boys made to the building of American. I would like to see a monument or memorial be constructed in Washington D.C. honoring their efforts so that all future generations of our youth could learn about the contribution that these boys made.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Mon May 18, 2020, 12:05 PM

8. To be accurate, FDR put young white people to work

As African Americans and other minorities were excluded from New Deal programs.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Mon May 18, 2020, 12:38 PM

9. My unordered list:

> Shut down and remove coal fired power plants and restore lands destroyed by coal mining.

> Create walkable energy efficient urban areas and high density suburbs; places where residents don't need to own cars.

> Build safe, comfortable housing for the homeless, largely built by residents themselves.

> Rebuild our schools and train teachers, with emphasis on smaller class sizes, universal literacy and numeracy, science, critical thinking skills, and realistic sex education.

> Bring high speed internet to rural areas, subsidizing the service for those who cannot afford it.

> Remove dangerous and environmentally destructive dams. (Yes, some dams built as Depression era work projects...)

etc.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Mon May 18, 2020, 12:56 PM

10. Keep in mind that we had three years of Depression

before FDR was elected and started doing things like this. Hoover did zilch, was of the mindset that the Government has no business helping the unfortunate poor and downtrodden. Same with Republicans today.

Which is why we need the Democrats to sweep the House, Senate, and Presidency this year. And be ready to go with an agenda that will make FDR's Hundred Days look like a snooze fest.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Mon May 18, 2020, 01:06 PM

12. You First

I am not sacrificing my children. They are only in their 20s, but the way this disease is going, they could die. I will let other sacrifice at the altar of Trump. When Trump is out of office, and the virus has gone away, my boys can take their chances.

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