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Fri May 15, 2020, 06:10 PM

A hopeful sign of a few die hard republicans seeing MF45 for the fraud he is.

My husband is the president of a national non-profit trade organization. This group has a convention every summer that brings hundreds of people together. To date, this group has not canceled their convention scheduled for July in Sioux Falls, SD. The board is scheduled to make that decision between June 1st and June 15th. It dawned on me this week that this convention could go on as planned! It could because these folks are as red as they come with most of them still calling the virus a hoax, stupid, an overreaction etc...I have to hear it every damned day on the phone at work. I should get hazard pay but that's another story.

My husband isn't one of these RWNJ's and I figured that he would get this thing shut down but so far it hasn't happened. My husband is a thoughtful person but he doesn't make decisions quickly and he definitely has a wait and see type of demeanor. Two days ago I said to my husband, "You know...if you go to Sioux Falls, you'll have to come home and quarantine for two weeks. You'll have to live in the camper in the driveway and stay away from me, our kiddo and our shop for that entire time. We can't jeopardize the family or our employees" He looked at me in disbelief. I told him I wasn't kidding. He said "Really?" and I said "REALLY". I left work and told him I'd left the CDC guidelines bookmarked for him on my computer and he could read it for himself.

He immediately began calling his board members to see where they stood on the convention. These people are from all over the country - most are from deep red areas and the business they're all in is chock full of the reddest repubs you can imagine. ALL of them are in favor of shutting the convention down ASAP. The reddest repukes on that board were all quite vocal about the virus, how frightened they are to get it, that the pResident is lying to them about testing and how tRump's got to go or we will lose countless more Americans.

We found out that one of these board members just got out of the hospital with Covid-19. He said it is the sickest he has ever been. He went on an anti-tRump rampage with my husband saying he almost died because he kept hearing that this was like the flu or a cold and he should just keep working, so he did. Another board member from GA has a wife who works in an assisted living facility where Covid-19 has killed half the residents - he is terrified she will get it and then he will too. He pointedly blamed MF45 for the mess we're in. He said he's never voted for a Democrat but he would vote for Biden because he, at least, would know what to do.

I thought this was all good news. Our camper is actually very nice but I guess my husband really didn't want to quarantine there for 2 weeks.


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Reply A hopeful sign of a few die hard republicans seeing MF45 for the fraud he is. (Original post)
MontanaMama May 2020 OP
Nevilledog May 2020 #1
MLAA May 2020 #2
Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #3
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gratuitous May 2020 #5
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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 06:13 PM

1. Good job!

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 06:22 PM

2. All he needed was a little nudge and the handbook! 😊. Well done.

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 06:25 PM

3. That's indeed encouraging.

Thank you for getting the ball rolling with your husband too.

The comments by the board member who was sick sounds right. It's often a very unpleasant and long-lasting illness compared to the flu, and that has been downplayed as well.

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 06:25 PM

4. Good for you. Actual science and data wins the day. A lot of us are frightened by this virus,

and even more so, frightened by those who are so nonchalant about putting others in harms' way, if they chose to expose themselves (and in turn, others in their circle (family, friends, etc.)).

My SO works as an essential employee and thus has to go to work, possibly exposing themselves on a daily basis to the CV. I am nervous everyday. I pray everyday for us, and all others that this disease will pass all of us by, and just be a old nightmare.

Again, good for you for standing up, and protecting you and your husband. Your husband is a lucky man. I am glad that those you've heard about (caught the CV) are doing better.

Take care and be safe!

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 06:27 PM

5. The poll numbers show a vast majority of people are supportive of the lockdown

But for some reason, the decisions on relaxing the lockdown are being driven by small clots of the lowest information dunderheads walking around with suspiciously professional-looking signs. Even a lot of die hard Republicans aren't anxious to test their mettle against this virus.

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #5)

Fri May 15, 2020, 06:46 PM

7. They are until it hits them directly...typical.

The dude that was in the hospital had to share his personal story, but I am sure many will still say it is a hoax until they are in that hospital themselves.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #7)

Fri May 15, 2020, 07:02 PM

9. You're probably right, but I hope you're wrong

I really hope the idiots who get sick make lots and lots of videos about how wrong they've been, and that each one persuades just one of the knuckleheads to leave off their stupid crusade. But it probably won't.

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #5)

Fri May 15, 2020, 07:19 PM

16. I call them Covidiots ...

but dunderheads works too.

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #5)

Sat May 16, 2020, 10:10 AM

44. Also, don't forget many of them are astroturfed

I know that many in Michigan are paid by the rich and powerful.

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #5)

Sat May 16, 2020, 10:52 AM

47. As far as Shitler's concerned, it's only about him and only about the economy.

He stupidly believes that the economic engine of this country is only fueled by the stock market. He's too ignorant that the true economic engine of this country is its people. He nor other rethugs haven't seemed to grasp the concept that if you kill the people, you will kill the economy because there will be no one at work to make the engine run.

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #5)

Sat May 16, 2020, 03:39 PM

54. It's all the hard core DT supporters! They're responding to HIS wishes, same as always! n/t

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 06:42 PM

6. Encouraging, but I still wonder what they'll actually

do in the voting booth. They need to stop voting Trump and straight down-ticket Republicans. That is the true test.

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Response to Golden Raisin (Reply #6)

Fri May 15, 2020, 07:22 PM

17. Yeah. I worry about that too.

However...they’re thinking and talking about it. These guys have no clue what my husband’s political beliefs are and the fact that they were offering all that bodes well and means they’re probably talking to others about it too. Baby steps. The ones that don’t vote for Biden...eff them. They’ll get theirs.

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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #17)

Sat May 16, 2020, 03:48 PM

55. I think anybody who actually gets the virus will NEVER vote fore DT again! Fear of death is very

compelling & something you don't forget readily.

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 06:54 PM

8. Screw with his head and lock him up in there anyway

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #8)

Fri May 15, 2020, 07:10 PM

12. What, punish him for listening to his intelligent wife? I don't think so. nt

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Response to Hekate (Reply #12)

Fri May 15, 2020, 07:14 PM

14. I was kidding, Hekate

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #14)

Fri May 15, 2020, 07:15 PM

15. Good to know!

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 07:06 PM

10. A much appreciated hopeful sign

Thanks for the inside glimpse

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 07:09 PM

11. Talk about one person speaking up making a huge difference! That would be you, MontanaMama!

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 07:14 PM

13. Like it when good news is shared here.

Thank you and keep it coming.

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 07:23 PM

18. I was supposed to be going to a huge choral festival in Minneapolis the week of 4 July

it is, of course, cancelled. But even after the board wanted to cancel it took weeks to negotiate the ability to cancel without being killed financially. This was all back in April. The official announcement of the postponement to next year was mid April. Honestly, I don't know that we will be able to have it even in July 2021 since choruses can't rehearse without at the very least a stringent testing regime and we aren't seeing any hope of that until at least 20 January 2021 at noon.

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Response to dsc (Reply #18)

Fri May 15, 2020, 07:27 PM

19. I'm sorry.

These cancellations are a big deal, aren’t they?

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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #19)

Fri May 15, 2020, 07:43 PM

22. yep

even the individual choruses who had to cancel seasons had a lot of work. I am on the board of mine and we are clearly not rehearsing now or for quite some time. On Sunday we have to start figuring out what going forward might look like. I am bordering on being despondent as to that.

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Response to dsc (Reply #22)

Fri May 15, 2020, 09:12 PM

32. I no longer sing

or play anything except the radio (and a lot of that) - but dear heaven, if a whole chorus - or even just a substantial percent - came down with COVID - what a catastrophe! That could lead to suicides - of audience members, let alone members - from the sense of loss.

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Response to soldierant (Reply #32)

Fri May 15, 2020, 09:24 PM

35. A chorus in Washington State already had this happen

as did one in the UK. An article commissioned by a national group of teachers of singing said that we won't be able to have rehearsals of choruses until a vaccine. I am thinking a really good testing regime could work. But that said, it will be a long time.

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 07:35 PM

20. No offense, but...

Why would anybody want to have a convention in South Dakota?
Better than North Dakota, I guess.

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Response to trof (Reply #20)

Fri May 15, 2020, 07:40 PM

21. None taken.

It was scheduled 2 years ago...and I agree! I wouldn’t want to go there. That said, in this particular trade, conventions seem to get held in the heartland of this country instead of fabulous destinations. It has been one of my pet peeves for years. When Sioux Falls ended up being a Covid hot spot, I thought that would be the end of it. It took a while and a threat of camper life for a certain someone but now it’s done.

WAY better than ND.

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Response to trof (Reply #20)

Sat May 16, 2020, 04:32 PM

56. Ha! Made me pause...

A convention in Sioux Falls. It took me a few seconds to get past that sentence.

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 07:45 PM

23. Encouraging news

Even if they just stay home and not vote it will help.

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Response to CanonRay (Reply #23)

Fri May 15, 2020, 07:52 PM

27. Agree 100%.

The states of these board members are: Wisconsin, Kentucky, Georgia, Colorado, Utah, Pennsylvania, Alabama.

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 07:47 PM

24. WHEE, WHEE! Keep us informed of more positive developments...we need to hear good news!❤

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 07:47 PM

25. Great post

Rec

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Response to malaise (Reply #25)

Sat May 16, 2020, 01:06 PM

52. Great post, and this is a great sentence. Please read this sentence from original post..

The reddest repukes on that board were all quite vocal about the virus, how frightened they are to get it, that the pResident is lying to them about testing and how tRump's got to go or we will lose countless more Americans."

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 07:51 PM

26. Wow.. Look what you started, MontanaMama!

This is really good to know.. so sorry about those who have already gotten it and those who didn't make it.

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Response to Cha (Reply #26)

Fri May 15, 2020, 07:54 PM

28. I'm with you Cha.

The man who had it and recovered lost his son to suicide last fall...I can’t imagine his family sustaining another loss so soon. If these folks will vote for Joe at best or at least stay the hell home if they can’t vote blue then we will be ahead.

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 08:16 PM

29. This is very encouraging news. Thank you for sharing.

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 08:20 PM

30. I believe these people are simply creating cover for themselves. When they go in the voting booth,

And are about to pull the levers, their brainwashing will kick in, visions of fetuses and confiscated guns will dance in their heads, and they’ll vote the same way they always have.
It’s going to be like Nixon. 2 years after he quit, you couldn’t find ANYONE who would admit that they voted for him. It was like he’d been elected twice by magic.

These people DO NOT CHANGE.

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 08:37 PM

31. Nothing like the prospect of a painful death to focus the mind.

I am hopeful that Trump's bungling the response to Covid-19 will focus many minds.

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 09:13 PM

33. MontanaMama, you are a hero n/t

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Response to soldierant (Reply #33)

Fri May 15, 2020, 09:23 PM

34. Well thank you.

Really all I did was promise a two week camper stay for my husband who has far more influence than I.

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 10:09 PM

36. Kudos, my friend!

You likely saved many lives just by doing what you did! And it looks like the word is getting out - better late than never!

Hugs from New York!

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #36)

Fri May 15, 2020, 10:13 PM

37. Hugs to you, friend.

Is it spring there yet?

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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #37)

Fri May 15, 2020, 10:19 PM

38. Well, it snowed here only once this month - so far

But the leaves are coming out on the trees, so I think that makes it official. And the flowering trees are blooming too - the few times I've gotten out to see them. I'm guessing that tourism is a lost cause this year here in the North Country, too bad this nightmare couldn't have happened back when we were snowed in since everything (except groceries and gas stations) are closed anyway, but we're keeping safe and glad to hear that you are, too!

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Fri May 15, 2020, 10:24 PM

39. Well played Mrs. nt

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Sat May 16, 2020, 02:39 AM

40. Good for you !

For being smart enough to take care of yourself and family.
And your husband WHEN he cancels !
Do people think that travel will be safe this summer?
We are such a jaded nation, we have no idea how diseases can spread anymore.
This is bad and will get worse.
Please everyone, stay safe!

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Response to mgardener (Reply #40)

Sat May 16, 2020, 10:25 AM

45. I don't think it will be safe to travel this summer.

We’ve got less than 20 active cases in MT right now. I fear that will explode when our national parks open up and people see MT as a “safe” place to go.

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Sat May 16, 2020, 06:04 AM

41. Thank you so much for this spot of good news!

It really helps me stay hopeful!

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Sat May 16, 2020, 06:13 AM

42. All it took was all this!

Glad to hear even some die hard Repukes are coming to their senses.

Man these people are slow to grasp reality. All it took was all this!

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Response to augyboston (Reply #42)

Sat May 16, 2020, 10:29 AM

46. Yes.

“All it took was all this” at least for the handful of MAGAts in this situation. There are more out there, unfortunately. As the virus spreads, each of them will either catch it or know someone who has it.

Welcome to DU!

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Sat May 16, 2020, 08:38 AM

43. If nothing else

The concept of air travel seems like a royal pan in the ass right now. Even if you don’t have the sense to be afraid

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Sat May 16, 2020, 11:46 AM

48. Reality and experience can be excellent teachers

Sadly, some people have to learn things the hard way.

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Sat May 16, 2020, 12:03 PM

49. This is great news.

Your associates are right out front with their feelings, but a lot of 45's supporters are with them, just not saying it out loud. I'll bet if we listen carefully, we'll hear similar things from his suppporters. Two in my life just showed signs that their brain cells still rub together, and called him out for the liar he is. The teflon is wearing thin. I think James Carville is right...people aren't going to vote for 4 more years of this.

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Sat May 16, 2020, 12:56 PM

50. I really think, as more people get sick and die

the tide will turn.. We'll see how the "canaries" do. Been watching cases rise in Douglas County since the restaurant opened in Castle Rock last Sunday..

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Sat May 16, 2020, 01:00 PM

51. Thank You for this wonderful post..Great News..!!!

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Sat May 16, 2020, 02:58 PM

53. A glimmer of hope was all I needed to get by today.

Thank you!

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Response to MontanaMama (Original post)

Sat May 16, 2020, 04:50 PM

57. They had better be flipping, or be known as CRAZY AF too?

I try to avoid CRAZY AF people.

Death Count Donnie, we need a time machine for!

He just mentions bleach and lysol and the stooges make phone calls in droves, and not a one of them was pleased?

I have this feeling if you went back in time and made Moscow Mitch die at spawn, we'd have peace on earth instead of this shit?


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