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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums'Here, I'll use this as a mask': Man wipes nose on Oakland County worker who asked him to wear mask
HOLLY, Mich. A man wiped his nose on the shirt of a woman who told him he was supposed to be wearing a mask inside a dollar store in Oakland County, police said. The incident was caught on video.
The incident happened around 1:30 p.m. Saturday at the Dollar Tree on North Sagniaw Street in Holly, according to authorities.
https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/05/04/here-ill-use-this-as-a-mask-man-wipes-nose-on-oakland-county-worker-who-asked-him-to-wear-mask/
Another Freedumb Warrior.
irisblue
(34,548 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Siwsan
(27,394 posts)She spat on him and then a male pulled a gun and shot him in the head, killing him. Absolutely horrifying.
Initech
(102,976 posts)That would be worth it.
csziggy
(34,189 posts)That should count as at least assault, if not battery. No one puts a hand on me without my permission. No one uses me as a tissue ever.
Scream RAPE or as they used to tell us FIRE since that would get a better response than a cry of rape would. But scream loudly and repeatedly until there is a reaction and the turd that used me as his wiping rag is apprehended.
I decided long ago that if someone laid a hand on me or assaulted me in any way, I would scream. I am not big enough and anymore not strong enough to fight in retaliation. Besides, then there would be the confusion as to who started a confrontation. But if I am screaming as if I were being harmed, without any physical reaction from me, it would be clear who was at fault.
ETA - In Florida, assault is being verbally attacked, battery is an actual physical attack.
Doremus
(7,265 posts)Hopefully he is standing before a judge by now.
Leith
(7,856 posts)I would stand there and scream for security as loud and as long as I could. What's the worst that could happen? People will look at me? Management, witnesses, and security would come running over? That's a winning outcome for me.
dickthegrouch
(3,704 posts) Scream RAPE or as they used to tell us FIRE
Youd make the court case extremely difficult. Especially if you continue the lie with security staff or law enforcement.
Screaming help is far less complicated and doesnt need any explanation or walking back.
csziggy
(34,189 posts)But FIRE does, or did back then.
I believe it is called the Kitty Genovese or Bystander Effect. Unless an event will affect people personally, if there are other witnesses, they don't response to a need for help. A fire will affect everyone in the vicinity while a call for help or rape does not threaten someone who does not respond.
Bystander Effect
What Is the Bystander Effect?
The bystander effect occurs when the presence of others discourages an individual from intervening in an emergency situation. The greater the number of bystanders, the less likely it is for any one of them to provide help to a person in distress. People are more likely to take action in a crisis when there are few or no other witnesses present.
Social psychologists Bibb Latané and John Darley popularized the concept of the bystander effect following the infamous murder of Kitty Genovese in New York City in 1964. The 28-year-old woman was stabbed to death outside her apartment, neighbors failed to step in to assist or call the police. Latané and Darley attributed the bystander effect to the perceived diffusion of responsibility (onlookers are less likely to intervene if there are other witnesses who seem likely to do so) and social influence (individuals monitor the behavior of those around them to determine how to act).
How To Be An Active Bystander
The social and behavioral paralysis described by the bystander effect can be reduced with awareness and in some cases explicit training. Secondary schools and college campuses encourage students to speak up when witnessing an act of bullying or a potential assault. One technique is to act as if one is the first or only person witnessing a problem. Often when one person take action, if only to shout, "Hey what's going on?" or "The police are coming," others may be emboldened to take action as well. That said, an active bystander is most effective when they assume that they themselves are the sole person taking charge; giving direction to other bystanders to assist can therefore be critically important.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/bystander-effect
Also, see: https://study.com/academy/lesson/defining-the-bystander-effect-kitty-genovese-murder-research-by-latane-and-darley.html
While some recent studies in other countries show a different crowd psychologies outside of the USA, at the time I took the self defense course in the 1970s, this WAS the advice given women.
BamaRefugee
(3,733 posts)Boomerproud
(8,555 posts)If she didn't- why not? I may not be going into discount stores for awhile.
Voltaire2
(15,035 posts)LuckyCharms
(19,373 posts)TDale313
(7,822 posts)Hope he gets identified.
3catwoman3
(25,934 posts)(rhetorical question that probably has no good answer).
I cannot imagine myself EVER behaving like this. Total deterioration of civility and decency.
Hekate
(95,737 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)I'm not a lawyer, but I'd look for one to argue everything in the book against that turdhead. Covid-19 is not a joke. If he tests positive, find more books to throw at him.
badhair77
(4,709 posts)These store clerks are on the front line, theyre considered essential, and Im sure not getting paid very well. Just awful behavior on his part.
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Ferrets are Cool
(22,077 posts)I loathe tasers, but I would carry one AND use it if I was in a situation where this could happen.
keithbvadu2
(40,915 posts)Find him. Does he have a wife, mother, sisters, daughters?
That's the lesson he is teaching them.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)It's assault!
ecstatic
(34,579 posts)Earlier today there was an article about a security guard being shot dead for asking a patron to wear a mask (at another Family Dollar in Michigan).
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Had he done it to me, and he wouldnt have, he would be wiping blood from his nose. And other parts of his head.
Where the republicans get the idea that liberal are meek is beyond me. I guess because we are educated and dont walk around with our guns. Which many of us own.
Mariana
(15,253 posts)Recently a poster here told us how he was accosted by someone and harassed for wearing a mask. The poster is in his 70's.
GoCubsGo
(33,336 posts)If it was me, he would have. It would easily be justified as self-defense.
Buckeye_Democrat
(15,098 posts)I worked in quality control.
Over about the last year at that factory, management kept hiring felons. (Im not sure why that apparent policy shift happened, but I know they previously struggled to find new employees AND Ohio offers some kind of tax break for hiring former prisoners.)
ALL of them were white, racist and supported Trump. (One guy had an HH tattoo, for Heil Hitler.)
I was like the quality cop on my shift, repeatedly finding problems with THEIR work in particular, so they pretty much hated me.
One of them coughed in my face as a joke after I tried to warn people that Coronavirus would become a serious problem in this country, despite what Trump was saying.
Decided to leave that job soon thereafter. It wasnt just that cough experience, but lots of things going to shit there.
Anyway, it wouldnt totally surprise me if this Dollar Tree thug had a previous record of some kind. I hope they catch the asshole!
irisblue
(34,548 posts)::I still wish she had kneed him::
Source--https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/05/us/dollar-tree-wiping-face-trnd/index.html
snip-- "Police in Holly, Michigan, have arrested a 68-year-old man on assault charges after he entered a Dollar Tree on Saturday and wiped his face on an employee's shirt."
snip--" Rex Howard Gomoll of Linden faces misdemeanor charges of assault and battery, Jessica Cooper, the Oakland County prosecutor, told CNN."
More at source
Second Source --https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/05/06/dollar-store-clerk-assault-holly-michigan/5176684002/
snip--" Rex Howard Gomoll, 68, was arraigned Wednesday via video conference due to COVID-19, according to the Holly Police Department. The charge is punishable by up to 93 days in jail and/or a $500 fine if convicted.
Police said Gomoll was also ordered to have no contact with the victim or return to the Holly Dollar Tree store.
snip--"Gomoll was identified by callers responding to a video clip the Holly Police Department posted on Facebook and arrested after police went to his house and he admitted he was the man in the video."
More at this source as well
WTH Dude.