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Sat May 2, 2020, 08:17 AM

If vaccine for the virus is developed in the next two or three months, will you take it?

Or will you take your chances out there in the wild world?

If they rush it, there will most likely not be adequate testing? They will not fully understand the side effects?

And it may be similar to a placebo, just to ease the mind of the public?

Personally, it will be hard for me to trust anything coming from this Administration.

They have torn down whatever trust was there.

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Reply If vaccine for the virus is developed in the next two or three months, will you take it? (Original post)
kentuck May 2020 OP
Raven May 2020 #1
2naSalit May 2020 #41
MH1 May 2020 #42
tblue37 May 2020 #48
spanone May 2020 #2
a la izquierda May 2020 #3
tavernier May 2020 #17
tblue37 May 2020 #49
Vogon_Glory May 2020 #25
get the red out May 2020 #27
Squinch May 2020 #4
at140 May 2020 #5
Voltaire2 May 2020 #53
at140 May 2020 #54
Xipe Totec May 2020 #6
Generic Brad May 2020 #7
The Magistrate May 2020 #8
Raven May 2020 #9
The Magistrate May 2020 #13
Raven May 2020 #23
Yonnie3 May 2020 #10
Chainfire May 2020 #11
GoCubsGo May 2020 #12
lark May 2020 #26
hlthe2b May 2020 #14
riversedge May 2020 #20
hlthe2b May 2020 #22
Maeve May 2020 #15
Mike 03 May 2020 #16
Aristus May 2020 #18
beachbumbob May 2020 #19
In_The_Wind May 2020 #21
MoonRiver May 2020 #24
duforsure May 2020 #28
Sunsky May 2020 #29
uponit7771 May 2020 #30
COLGATE4 May 2020 #43
Mariana May 2020 #31
kentuck May 2020 #32
Name removed May 2020 #33
yardwork May 2020 #34
kentuck May 2020 #46
yardwork May 2020 #52
Wounded Bear May 2020 #35
Fiendish Thingy May 2020 #36
roamer65 May 2020 #55
sinkingfeeling May 2020 #37
Alex4Martinez May 2020 #38
boston bean May 2020 #39
LeftInTX May 2020 #40
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Maru Kitteh May 2020 #45
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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 08:19 AM

1. No. I will continue to self isolate until we see how many human guinea pigs

die for Trump's quest for a "Noble" Prize in Medicine.

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Response to Raven (Reply #1)

Sat May 2, 2020, 10:14 AM

41. +1

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Response to Raven (Reply #1)

Sat May 2, 2020, 10:17 AM

42. That's my plan, and I recognize my privilege

in having a very strong expectation that I'll be able to do that.

My heart aches for the people and families who will suffer if a botched "vaccine" is pushed on them and they don't have the privilege to escape it.
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Response to Raven (Reply #1)

Sat May 2, 2020, 01:02 PM

48. +1. nt

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 08:21 AM

2. trump said he was in charge of the vaccine....no thanks

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 08:21 AM

3. Depends where it comes from.

The Oxford team’s work seems promising. I would get vaccinated if it was with that one.

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Response to a la izquierda (Reply #3)

Sat May 2, 2020, 08:45 AM

17. Yes I would definitely take that one

because it’s been given to humans over the years for a different virus, and has so far been shown to be effective for COVID-19. Either way since it has been given before and is not harmful to humans, I don’t see why not take it in lieu of other protection that has had the benefit of longer testing.

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Response to tavernier (Reply #17)

Sat May 2, 2020, 01:03 PM

49. Yes, that one. nt

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Response to a la izquierda (Reply #3)

Sat May 2, 2020, 09:04 AM

25. I agree. With this Administration in place

I wouldn’t trust anything this administration touts as a cure or a preventative.

If the Oxford team comes out with something, I’d be willing to get vaccinated, but at this point I’d want to get my shot from a reputable Canadian lab.

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Response to Vogon_Glory (Reply #25)

Sat May 2, 2020, 09:20 AM

27. Amen

If is developed in a democracy with actual healthcare I would trust it.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 08:22 AM

4. Not a chance.

I'll take it in it's second or third generation.

I'll let others be used as test subjects.
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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 08:25 AM

5. NO! I can save my life by not driving on roads!

40,000 Americans die every year (average of past 25 years) and hundred thousand are severely injured.
We should reduce speed limit on roads down to 10 MPH to save thousands of lives YEAR AFTER YEAR.

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Response to at140 (Reply #5)

Sun May 3, 2020, 07:36 AM

53. So you think social restrictions to control

the spread of this virus are ridiculous?

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Response to Voltaire2 (Reply #53)

Sun May 3, 2020, 05:24 PM

54. No, but my life is safer by not driving my car

why do I say that? Because my crowded cruise ended on Feb 29th. Almost all crew was either Chinese, Indonesian, or from Thailand.
We never missed the packed stage show in theater every evening. And ate at the crowded buffet every lunch time and dinner in the dining room on a table for 8. Upon return from cruise I have shopped at grocery stores every week. And stopped at the bank and filled my gas tank couple of times. Filling gas is the dirtiest place in town because a 100 strangers have touched the gas dispenser handle. And every 3 weeks I accompany my wife to the hospital for her chemo to sit in with her cancer doctor appointment. And I pick up food from restaurants since both of us hate cooking. So what I am 80 years old, I practice meticulously washing hands with soap before touching any of the 9 body openings. No symptoms, no cough, no fever, still healthy as a horse.

But I get side swiped every week on average driving my diminutive Chevy Spark car. Now that is more risky in my life than visiting stores or enjoying a Caribbean cruise, going by actual experience. Social distancing is a good practice because no one has the iron discipline which I have about washing hands before touching vulnerable parts of body.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 08:26 AM

6. I won't be the first in line, but yes.

I'll wait a month after they start administering it.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 08:27 AM

7. I have no trust in anything Trump promotes

I prefer to wait for the one made available by the Biden administration.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 08:27 AM

8. I Would Follow My Doctor's Advice, Sir

I trust the man's judgement and knowledge.

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #8)

Sat May 2, 2020, 08:32 AM

9. I would too and she would tells me that if

Trump has anything to do with a vaccine, wait.

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Response to Raven (Reply #9)

Sat May 2, 2020, 08:37 AM

13. I Expect His Advice , Ma'am

Would be based on the peer-reviewed science behind any serum that became available.

He was spitting tacks about the inadequacy and fecklessness of the regime's response to the early stages of the contagion when last I saw him.

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #13)

Sat May 2, 2020, 09:01 AM

23. Hers would be too. She'll take a good look at who is

heading up the peer review. Fact is, nothing good will come out of Trump's involvement in the development of a vaccine, nothing. Birx has already sold her soul, Fauci is still standing but no way to know for how long. I would be taking a very close look at the peer reviewers to see what they or their institutions stand to lose, or gain, for a positive review of Trump's vaccine.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 08:32 AM

10. I may accept a vaccinaton

perhaps waiting a few months first to see if it is dangerous.

I will continue social distancing, mask wearing and isolation behavior as much as possible until there is a much larger data set on its actual performance.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 08:33 AM

11. My wife and I have discussed this

and no, we don't trust this government to do the right thing. I will look forward to getting the vaccine after it has been used for nine months or so with positive results, and few side effects.

What our present government is willing to do is do the final testing of the vaccine with the general population as the test subjects while they sit back with fingers crossed. It is the same kind of thing Boeing did with their 737 wide body.

What my fear is is that one side effect from an untested vaccine may be growing a new head in your colon, and I could not stand being converted to a Republican.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 08:36 AM

12. Nope.

I'll wait and see for several months. After that, if there's evidence that it is safe and effective, then yes. I'll take it. But, I'm not going to hold my breath about the "safe and effective" part. Like you, I don't trust those motherfuckers one bit.

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #12)

Sat May 2, 2020, 09:07 AM

26. That's my plan as well.

If it's developed in the USA, I will have doubts and will wait at least 60 days to make sure it's not a zombie killer version. Yes, I have read and watched too many apocalyptic books/movies where the world is killed by a new vaccine/cancer drug/AIDS treatment plus I know that drumpf is killing us for personal/political profit. If it's an Oxford developed vaccine, I would trust that more, maybe only wait 5-6 weeks vs. a full 90 days?

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 08:38 AM

14. I have relevent background to research the method/technique used to produce...

There are a lot of new methodologies and I think there more questions for some than others. I will research the methods, the track record of the producer and developer, whether any applicable animal studies were conducted (preferably in primates), and the reaction of European and WHO researchers in addition to the wide range of US virologists and vaccine experts. They will be discussing it publicly and even more frankly on select message boards/forums.

It is a given that the first to receive it after the trials will be health care and public health workers and first responders. The general public will thus have the benefit of their experience in addition to phase2/3 clinical trials. So those who are angry that they can't get said vaccine when it is first introduced might realize that they are actually benefiting from the delay.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #14)

Sat May 2, 2020, 08:55 AM

20. Thanks. I hope you will share your analysis with us.

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Response to riversedge (Reply #20)

Sat May 2, 2020, 08:59 AM

22. I will but these kinds of forums are challenging for users to delineate the validity of comments.

Everyone has an opinion after all.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 08:38 AM

15. Not this soon

I don't fancy being a test subject for this

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 08:45 AM

16. I'd prefer to wait about six months. I'll continue to shelter in place.

Just to err on the side of caution.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 08:50 AM

18. Only if it's proven safe and effective.

I have a hard enough time getting patients to get their vaccines even though they're safe and effective.

If they try to rush through a problematic immunization, all my hard work getting people to trust vaccines will be for nothing.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 08:52 AM

19. its debatable for sure if NOT proven

 

I have a hard time thinking CDC, FDA or any health official would want to mislead the US. Trump I expect him to but he has no morals to speak off.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 08:59 AM

21. Last year I told my doctor that I'm not a guinea pig.

I'll wait until its been tested.

I've adjusted to wearing a mask and one way shopping in grocery stores.

I wish others would do the same.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 09:04 AM

24. When and if my doctor recommends it, I probably would.

But I doubt he would approve a vaccine that was fast tracked, without adequate clinical trials.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 09:24 AM

28. No way!

I don't trust anything that's done while trumps in office, which shouldn't be long now. Once replaced with JB , probably.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 09:29 AM

29. No

I won't be their test subjects. Things are be rushed, protocols pushed aside to satisfy the no-clothes emperor. I'll wait and see if there are any issues, then take it. Trump has corrupted all institutions he deals with. As a healthcare worker, I'm shocked with the CDC's response to the coronavirus (from botched testing to unsound/ unsafe PPE guidelines/ no public masks- public should wear masks). It's hard when you can't trust these governing bodies that are supposed to give fact-driven/ evidence-based guidelines. After we vote Trump out of the Whitehouse, we need inquiries into the failure of the CDC, FDA, HHS etc in the coronavirus response. This should not happen again, no matter who is in power.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 09:37 AM

30. No, even Fauci is refusing to testify in front of the house. NOTHING can be trusted from the Trump

... admin

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #30)

Sat May 2, 2020, 10:34 AM

43. Fauci isn't "refusing to testify in front of the House"

He is being prohibited from doing so by Trump.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 09:42 AM

31. If you take a vaccine in the next two or three months, you ARE the testing.

You ARE the guinea pig. Just saying.

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Response to Mariana (Reply #31)

Sat May 2, 2020, 09:43 AM

32. Sort of like the protestors that were encouraged to get out there and win one for the Gipper...?

They were nothing but guinea pigs.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 09:48 AM

34. I think you're confusing the "they" with the federal government.

The scientists who are working on vaccine development - at research universities, industry, and yes, federal agencies - have dedicated their careers to using science to save lives.

What politicians do, that's a separate issue.

I will certainly get a vaccine when/if it becomes available.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #34)

Sat May 2, 2020, 12:56 PM

46. Can they be politically manipulated by this Administration?

Yeah, I think so.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #46)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:08 PM

52. I doubt it. Sure, there might be a few, but most scientists are pretty focused on their work.

Now, what the Trump administration might do with their work, that I don't trust at all.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 09:49 AM

35. Tough question. I'll probably wait...

hell, I don't even buy new software or hardware. I'm not a beta tester.

I get my flu shots from the VA, for free. I'll probably wait until they start offering them. Hopefully it'll be safe. But I won't trust much until Trump is safely removed from the reins of gov't.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 09:55 AM

36. I live in Canada - if our minister of health says a vaccine

Has been tested and determined to be safe and effective, and is now available, hell yes, sign me up.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 10:04 AM

37. Not until there is a huge number vaccinated without side effects.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 10:07 AM

38. If my state's governor Newsom or our health department recommends it, yes.

But a hard NO if it comes from the white house or a national recommendation associated with the white house.
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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 10:10 AM

39. I probably would.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 10:14 AM

40. Shoot me: I will

But afterward, I would still do the distancing stuff.

I would be most concerned that it wouldn't work as opposed to bad side effects.

Since Coronvirus is closely related to the flu etc, I think a vaccine would be safe. Sure there is a possibility that a vaccine could be contaminated, but you take that chance with any vaccination.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 10:37 AM

44. I will try to get the best information I can before deciding whether to take it or not.

If I feel it has been rushed to market without adequate clinical trials then I might postpone taking it. I don't want to take a vaccine that will potentially do more harm than good. However, if I can be convinced of its safety then absolutely I will take it. I always get the flu shot. I am a big believer in safe vaccines.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 10:40 AM

45. With proper research, yes. I'm an RN caring for vets. If I believe it reduces my chance of giving it

to my guys and gals, then yes.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 01:00 PM

47. absolutely

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 01:22 PM

50. Many people give Trump way too much power

I ignore him, and am not missing a thing. Governors, researchers, and the medical industry have the power.

Human trials of vaccine started more than a month ago - I don't think Trump had a thing to do with it. I think there will be an open discussion of how much we fast-track a wide-scale vaccine, and Trump will just be a side-line commentator.

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/21/818759617/i-wanted-to-do-something-says-mother-of-2-who-is-first-to-test-coronavirus-vacci

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 01:31 PM

51. Absolutely NO, I will not be a part of a government experiment! nt

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun May 3, 2020, 05:31 PM

56. The soonest one would be available is sometime next year.

There will be voluntary efficacy trials first. Then administration will be prioritized to high risk persons first, like health care providers and the elderly.

Young people probably won’t get until 2022 or 2023.

COVID-45 will be out of office on January 20, 2021.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun May 3, 2020, 05:32 PM

57. not while Trump is still playing pretend president

no way

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun May 3, 2020, 05:36 PM

58. I have no choice but to take the vaccine unless covid gets me first.

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