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Fri Apr 24, 2020, 11:55 AM

What really astounds me is that there is no one around Trump with

a conscience. As of yesterday, I am including Birx and Fauci. There are just no excuses left.

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Reply What really astounds me is that there is no one around Trump with (Original post)
Raven Apr 2020 OP
TwilightZone Apr 2020 #1
Raven Apr 2020 #2
Pantagruel Apr 2020 #3
global1 Apr 2020 #8
dawg Apr 2020 #4
sfstaxprep Apr 2020 #5
50 Shades Of Blue Apr 2020 #6
ScratchCat Apr 2020 #7
tblue37 Apr 2020 #10
Retrograde Apr 2020 #9
Raven Apr 2020 #11

Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Apr 24, 2020, 11:56 AM

1. I think some of them try.

There's a lot of evidence that some of his staff have tried to tone down the nuttiness over the past couple of years, but I think he's just uncontrollable.

Not that they shouldn't continue to try and do so publicly more often, but I really think it's a losing battle.

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 24, 2020, 11:58 AM

2. Then they should get out and go loudly. Staying lends him credibility.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Apr 24, 2020, 11:59 AM

3. Eventually

Birx and Fauci tell all books will explain they stayed for the good of the country, tempering the effect of the mad POTUS.
Not good enough for me but that's what passes for American exceptionalism these days.

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Response to Pantagruel (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 24, 2020, 12:42 PM

8. For The Good Of The Country They Should Resign....

Everyday they appear on the stage with him they lose more of any credibility the have left.

If they resign (particularly Fauci) will be given a forum to provide the American People with facts and good info. Any news organization will give him that forum. In fact Biden should hire him as his medical advisor.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Apr 24, 2020, 12:02 PM

4. They think that if they speak up enough to get fired then a clown will replace them.

They are almost certainly correct, so I don't blame Fauci and Birx for a certain amount of go-along to get-along. They have almost certainly saved lives with the influence they've been able to exert.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Apr 24, 2020, 12:04 PM

5. Sure....They're Staying For OUR Own Good

Ya see, by enabling and coddling Drumpf, they're helping out the country. Because, ya know, they don't want someone less qualified replacing them.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Apr 24, 2020, 12:05 PM

6. Birx and Fauci are damned if they do and damned if they don't, and I was willing to give them

the benefit of the doubt, thinking they were doing their best to walk a very fine tightrope. But after watching Birx sitting there silently listening to Trump spew such utter ignorant, dangerous bullshit and not issuing the slightest correction, Birx no longer gets any credit from me either.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Apr 24, 2020, 12:30 PM

7. Even worse imo

Is that hardly one person who has left this administration via their own decision or being fired has gone forward and said "this man must be removed". Anthony Scaramucci is the only one, with Amarosa just trying to sell a book. Not Tillerson; not Sessions; Not Mattis; not anybody who's words would matter.

IMO, it would take a half dozen or fewer Republicans to say it and he would be gone the end of summer.

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Response to ScratchCat (Reply #7)

Fri Apr 24, 2020, 03:18 PM

10. But they're Republicans, and they don't want to interfere with the appointment of judges,

the tax breaks, and the destruction of regulations, not to mention the military funding or their own future on boards, or as lobbyists, or on the wingnut welfare circuit.

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Response to Raven (Original post)

Fri Apr 24, 2020, 01:53 PM

9. Standing up is all well and good

if you have the FU money to do it. We've seen what our vindictive Dear Leader does to people he thinks slight him - remember Andrew McCabe being kicked out just before his retirement was vested? That's one of the ways Trump gets leverage over people: praise me or live with the consequences.

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Response to Retrograde (Reply #9)

Fri Apr 24, 2020, 03:45 PM

11. neither Birx nor Fauci are going to starve.n/t

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