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Tue Apr 21, 2020, 02:06 PM

Shit got real

Last edited Wed Apr 22, 2020, 01:21 PM - Edit history (1)

Biggest cliche ever: It changes everything when you lose someone to COVID-19.

I thought I grasped it. I've been careful since before we were supposed to be. I've been glued to the news for weeks and weeks. I've created my own spreadsheets to keep track of certain numbers. I've been ON IT. Not since the Mueller investigation have I absorbed quite so much news information so quickly.

I'm old enough that contemporaries started dying a few years ago. I've gone to funerals. I haven't gotten used to it, but I know how it feels when people die.

Then a friend who lived far away and had been very careful and privileged wrote and said he was ill, doctor thought it was the virus, and advised him to stay home. No respiratory problems. Kidneys hurt.

Over the next few days, his texts got shorter and shorter.

Nine days after feeling ill, died in sleep, cardiac arrest.

It all looks a lot different now.

Added the morning after: Thank you all for your kindness.

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Reply Shit got real (Original post)
Lulu KC Apr 2020 OP
sinkingfeeling Apr 2020 #1
MontanaMama Apr 2020 #2
cayugafalls Apr 2020 #3
Walleye Apr 2020 #4
Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2020 #5
smirkymonkey Apr 2020 #6
Caliman73 Apr 2020 #7
redstatebluegirl Apr 2020 #8
mr_lebowski Apr 2020 #9
Ninga Apr 2020 #10
ffr Apr 2020 #11
KS Toronado Apr 2020 #12
Lonestarblue Apr 2020 #13
barbtries Apr 2020 #19
helpisontheway Apr 2020 #24
barbtries Apr 2020 #30
Lonestarblue Apr 2020 #28
barbtries Apr 2020 #31
CaptainTruth Apr 2020 #14
gademocrat7 Apr 2020 #15
Ford_Prefect Apr 2020 #16
saidsimplesimon Apr 2020 #17
Scarsdale Apr 2020 #38
AtheistCrusader Apr 2020 #18
cate94 Apr 2020 #20
matt819 Apr 2020 #21
ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #22
Thekaspervote Apr 2020 #23
Heartstrings Apr 2020 #25
helpisontheway Apr 2020 #26
NNadir Apr 2020 #27
TruthAlwaysWins Apr 2020 #29
Mickju Apr 2020 #32
Joinfortmill Apr 2020 #33
Sunriser13 Apr 2020 #34
pbmus Apr 2020 #35
Stuart G Apr 2020 #36
PatrickforO Apr 2020 #37
niyad Apr 2020 #39
Demovictory9 Apr 2020 #40
N_E_1 for Tennis Apr 2020 #41

Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 02:07 PM

1. I'm very sorry for the loss of your friend.

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 02:08 PM

2. I am so sorry for your loss.

Covid19 is brutal.

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 02:08 PM

3. Sorry for your loss, friends are hard to lose.

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 02:09 PM

4. So sorry. 😞

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 02:09 PM

5. I'm sorry!

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 02:11 PM

6. I'm so sorry for your loss.

I just think this didn't have to be so bad if precautions were taken earlier. Anyway, my condolences to you and your friend's family.

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 02:11 PM

7. I am sorry about your friend.

This is why it is infuriating when idiots are out their comparing this to the flu.

The flu does not mess up your kidneys and cause heart attacks.

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 02:13 PM

8. So sorry for your loss.

I am of that age as well. I have a friend who seems to be beating this byt she could get worse in a hot minute. She is is still in the hospital.

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 02:13 PM

9. Sorry for your loss ...

Unnamed Friend

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 02:14 PM

10. Gulp. So very very sorry for the tragic loss of your friend.

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 02:25 PM

11. Don't mess around with safety with CV

It's just looking for a few good hosts. We're all hosts.

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 02:30 PM

12. Let's all do more

to help prevent more unnecessary deaths, PLEASE wear a mask everyone.

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 02:33 PM

13. So sorry for your loss. We all need to know more about how this virus works.

I read a very good piece in the NYT this morning that clearly explains what doctors treating Covid-19 patients are seeing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/20/opinion/coronavirus-testing-pneumonia.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

The doctor explains how patients can have symptoms for several days but be able to breathe okay, so don’t go the hospital, because they are experiencing something called silent hypoxia.

“Patients compensate for the low oxygen in their blood by breathing faster and deeper — and this happens without their realizing it. This silent hypoxia, and the patient’s physiological response to it, causes even more inflammation and more air sacs to collapse, and the pneumonia worsens until oxygen levels plummet. In effect, patients are injuring their own lungs by breathing harder and harder.”

The doctor then goes on to suggest a way to test oxygen levels at home. “There is a way we could identify more patients who have Covid pneumonia sooner and treat them more effectively — and it would not require waiting for a coronavirus test at a hospital or doctor’s office. It requires detecting silent hypoxia early through a common medical device that can be purchased without a prescription at most pharmacies: a pulse oximeter.

Pulse oximetry is no more complicated than using a thermometer. These small devices turn on with one button and are placed on a fingertip. In a few seconds, two numbers are displayed: oxygen saturation and pulse rate. Pulse oximeters are extremely reliable in detecting oxygenation problems and elevated heart rates.”

I suspect all of us are familiar with these devices as doctors use them all the time during regular checkups. I immediately ordered one just to be on the safe side.

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #13)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 03:25 PM

19. i've been trying to order one

but i don't trust the sellers anymore on amazon. there is nothing on prime. did you order from Amazon?

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Response to barbtries (Reply #19)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 04:28 PM

24. I tried to order a pulse oximeter for weeks. Sold out in town. Finally found one on Amazon that did

not take weeks to deliver. I had it in 5 days. I checked the listing the other day and now it says unavailable.

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Response to helpisontheway (Reply #24)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 06:29 PM

30. yeah i just looked again today.

in fact, every day i look on amazon for sanitizer and toilet paper, and every few days I look for haircutting tools, pulse oximeters, and groceries. slim pickings. I got scammed on toilet paper and although I did get a refund, it was a pain the ass and now I don't trust the sellers and try to get everything prime. that isn't going to work though clearly.

i was naive when this all began thinking the supply chain would normalize, but life is simply not normal at this time and i no longer expect it to change in a hurry. so i'm kind of a scavenger hunter.

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Response to barbtries (Reply #19)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 04:48 PM

28. Yes, after trying Walgreen's and CVS and Walmart.

Some of them had products, but they were mostly the really expensive ones over $100 or the ones I didn’t trust at $12-15. Amazon was showing the label “US Stock” on some of their options, so I ordered one of those, which was eligible for Prime shipping. That’s no longer overnight or even 2-day delivery these days, but I got a delivery in early May.

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #28)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 06:30 PM

31. thanks.

that is ultimately what i will do, i'm sure. they are more expensive than i expected, but if it could literally save my life it's worth it.

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 02:41 PM

14. I'm so sorry ... & yes, it's real. I hope the MAGAts realize that soon.

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 02:49 PM

15. Condolences on the loss of your friend.

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 02:59 PM

16. So far the MAGATS have no idea and are ready to blame anyone nominated by FOX NEWS

They live in another dimension where Momentum and Gravity do not apply. Where Truth is subjective. Where Law is whatever Dear Leader proclaims it to be.

I live among too many of them to have faith in the idea that they will "get it" if things get bad enough for them, too. I don't wish them evil or pain but I sure do wish they'd move to that other dimension permanently. The time they spend visiting this one is using up oxygen, water and food the rest of us are going to need when they have gone on to their greater reward.

I am truly sorry to hear of your friend. My sister is immune compromised and lives in the heart of MAGAT central in eastern WA. I worry that she will suddenly be gone before we hear she is even ill.

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 03:03 PM

17. many regrets for your loss of a friend

I blame that blob sitting on his toilet throne for many deaths.

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Response to saidsimplesimon (Reply #17)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 10:51 PM

38. Me too.

If he had acted on all the warnings, this would not have gotten so out of control. Busy golfing and holding rallys. Now it is everyone else's fault, according to him. So sorry to hear about your friend losing his life to this. So many good people dying because of a worthless blob of lard in the WH.

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 03:20 PM

18. How the fuck are people even supposed to mourn and have closure.

It's like, everyone is a continent away, watching loved ones and friends die by email, text, and telephone, or maybe the odd video conference...

This cannot be healthy.

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 03:37 PM

20. I'm sorry

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 03:37 PM

21. This is what I'm beginning to fear

It hits fast, and the mortality rate is high. And neither my wife nor I want to die alone in the hospital. I wasn't particularly worried a few weeks ago, and I can't really point to any one thing that has prompted my change in attitude - well, the news sucks, of course, but it's not even that. I think it's the uncertainty and the randomness. We're in a rural area, so that's one thing going for us, but I'm still going out to the grocery store and the auto shop and a few other specific (and short) errands, and I'm cautious, and increasingly people are wearing masks and gloves, so that's good. But, still, it's just so damn random.

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 03:40 PM

22. Oh, Boy!

That's a drag.
Wonder if the "ignorers" will have a change of heart if they experience what you did.

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 04:13 PM

23. So sorry for your loss. 😔

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 04:30 PM

25. Sorry for your loss....

He will forever be in your ❤️.

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 04:40 PM

26. Very sorry for your loss..nt

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 04:43 PM

27. Please accept my sympathy. I have some insight to how you feel. I lost my boss.

I'm still grieving.

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 04:50 PM

29. Thank you for sharing....

Your story just makes it that much more real for all of us. I'm very sorry that you have lost your friend; someone who seemed to be so careful and yet still caught this dreadful virus.


Thoughts go with you, Lulu KC.

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 07:19 PM

32. I'm sorry.

That is really hard to take.

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 07:50 PM

33. So sorry about your friend.

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 08:12 PM

34. I'm sorry.




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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 09:46 PM

35. Sadness , just very sad time...I am very sorry for your loss

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 09:48 PM

36. Sorry for your loss.

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 09:55 PM

37. Very sorry for your loss.

May your friend have eternal rest, and let perpetual light shine on him.

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2020, 11:58 PM

39. So very sorry for the loss of your friend.

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Response to Lulu KC (Original post)

Wed Apr 22, 2020, 12:01 AM

40. ..

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Wed Apr 22, 2020, 05:52 AM

41. ...

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