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Wed Apr 8, 2020, 11:59 AM

Needed: another word for "news" that is not true

I was listening to NPR this morning and they used several phrases that the buffoon often uses. The one that jars me, that he initiated and promotes all the time, is "fake news." He owns this. We must find a new word/phrase for disinformation that is presented as news. We need a word/phrase that the general public and news and can use without reinforcing his ranting.

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Reply Needed: another word for "news" that is not true (Original post)
Shanti Mama Apr 2020 OP
Walleye Apr 2020 #1
blitzen Apr 2020 #4
Walleye Apr 2020 #8
blm Apr 2020 #10
redwitch Apr 2020 #2
The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #3
BigMin28 Apr 2020 #9
The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #15
BigMin28 Apr 2020 #17
JHB Apr 2020 #19
brewens Apr 2020 #5
lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #21
elleng Apr 2020 #6
Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2020 #7
jayschool2013 Apr 2020 #11
pwb Apr 2020 #12
dawg day Apr 2020 #13
SaveOurDemocracy Apr 2020 #14
OriginalGeek Apr 2020 #16
lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #18
lame54 Apr 2020 #20
shockey80 Apr 2020 #22

Response to Shanti Mama (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:00 PM

1. Propaganda

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Response to Walleye (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:03 PM

4. Yes, call it what it is. And maybe with an adjective: "Fascist Propaganda" n/t

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Response to blitzen (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:06 PM

8. We used to know propaganda when we heard it during the Cold War

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Response to blitzen (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:07 PM

10. Fact

Fascist propaganda is exactly what it is.

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Response to Shanti Mama (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:00 PM

2. Would bullshit work? nt

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Response to Shanti Mama (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:00 PM

3. "Bullshit" works, but it might be a little vulgar for regular use.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:07 PM

9. In normal times

I would agree. But considering the vulgarity squatting in the White House, I believe using bullshit is quite appropriate.

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Response to BigMin28 (Reply #9)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:14 PM

15. There is a book called "On Bullshit" which perfectly describes

the sort of misinformation put forth by Trump, et al. In general, bullshit is something that is said when the speaker doesn't know what he's talking about or care about the truth of his statements. "Bullshit is unavoidable whenever circumstances require someone to talk without knowing what he is talking about. Thus the production of bullshit is stimulated whenever a person's obligations or opportunities to speak about some topic exceed his knowledge of the facts that are relevant to that topic." Here's the essay that the author, Harry G. Frankfort, later turned onto a book. http://www2.csudh.edu/ccauthen/576f12/frankfurt__harry_-_on_bullshit.pdf He was prescient, I think.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #15)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:35 PM

17. Thanks

nt

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:38 PM

19. How about "load of horse dump"?

Heard that in a speech from the '30s by Smedley Butler, and thought it was a "cleaner" version that plopped down like its namesake.

Of course, a currant variant might be "load of horseTrump"

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Response to Shanti Mama (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:03 PM

5. I've been hoping the crackpot news would catch on. I'll usually post FOX "News" and the rest of the

crackpot news sources" when getting in a shot at what the Trump worshippers are taught to make believe. I always use "make believe" or "pretend" in place of believe. It's a better description of their mentality.

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Response to brewens (Reply #5)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:39 PM

21. Thank you for the distinction between "believing" and "pretending."

It irks me to no end that the media constantly claim that Trump and Russiapublicans "believe" something that is clearly not believable by any sentient being. What they are doing is "pretending."

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Response to Shanti Mama (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:04 PM

6. New Lies

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Response to Shanti Mama (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:04 PM

7. Disinformation.

Which covers both things that are blatantly false, as well as a mixture of truth and falsehoods that overall have the purpose of deceiving the audience.

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Response to Shanti Mama (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:09 PM

11. Agitprop NT

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Response to Shanti Mama (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:09 PM

12. Fox?

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Response to Shanti Mama (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:10 PM

13. "Trumps"

As in...

Fox is spouting a lot of Trump today.

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Response to Shanti Mama (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:12 PM

14. Lies

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Response to Shanti Mama (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:22 PM

16. Perhaps I am mis-remembering

but I don't think doll-hands created the term. He appropriated it. From us. Who used it to describe republican lies and deliberately false information they liked to spread around.

Because he loves very few things more than dating his daughter and accusing the left of doing the things he is actually doing.

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Response to Shanti Mama (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:36 PM

18. "Lies"

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Response to Shanti Mama (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:38 PM

20. STFU's

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Response to Shanti Mama (Original post)

Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:40 PM

22. Trump speak.

 

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