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Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:12 PM

Tomorrow, I predict we will pass Italy ...

On Friday, we will pass China.

We're #1
We're #1

Do I need to place the sarcasm thingee?

And Pendejo45 said he's scores 10 out of 10 in the handling of Coronavirus.

Want to know what 10 out of 10 is?
Obama's handling of the Ebola virus.
Only 11 people got it in the US, and unfortunately 2 people died.
And the press was merciless to Obama.
https://thehill.com/news/administration/220922-president-obamas-ebola-problem
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/07/opinion/granderson-ebola-obama/index.html
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/19/ebola-america-fear-barack-obama-virus

Pendejo45 has handled the Coronavirus with 68,572 cases and 1,031 dead.
Where's the press?

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Reply Tomorrow, I predict we will pass Italy ... (Original post)
aggiesal Mar 25 OP
LonePirate Mar 25 #1
aggiesal Mar 25 #3
cynatnite Mar 25 #9
aggiesal Mar 25 #5
LonePirate Mar 25 #8
defacto7 Mar 26 #29
Blue_true Mar 25 #10
Tumbulu Mar 25 #2
aggiesal Mar 25 #4
greyl Mar 25 #11
Blue_true Mar 25 #13
Tumbulu Mar 26 #16
KY_EnviroGuy Mar 26 #20
jimfields33 Mar 25 #6
Blue_true Mar 26 #14
KY_EnviroGuy Mar 26 #21
Blue_true Mar 25 #7
Ms. Toad Mar 25 #12
Blue_true Mar 26 #15
Ms. Toad Mar 26 #18
Blue_true Mar 26 #23
Ms. Toad Mar 26 #30
uponit7771 Mar 26 #19
Blue_true Mar 26 #24
Bettie Mar 26 #25
roamer65 Mar 26 #17
Skittles Mar 26 #22
gibraltar72 Mar 26 #26
Recursion Mar 26 #27
spinbaby Mar 26 #28
aggiesal Mar 26 #31
spinbaby Mar 26 #32
aggiesal Mar 26 #33

Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:15 PM

1. I'm not sure those numbers from China are anywhere close to accurate.

That being said, we will end up with worst official numbers of any country on the planet. I donít think we are even at 1% of the final numbers.

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:25 PM

3. We are currently at 1.5% ...

1,031 deaths out of 68,572 cases

We gained 15,000+ cases today.
Italy gained a little over 5,000 cases.

Projecting, we should have approximately 83,000+ by this time tomorrow,
while Italy will have approximately 79,900+

Unfortunately, Italy is experiencing a 10.01% death rate right now at over 7,500 deaths.

Not like I'm spreading the cheer.

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Response to aggiesal (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:47 PM

9. Those are only deaths associated with the virus...

They don't count the ones that died because they were unable to help due to the overwhelming of medical resources.

The numbers are much higher actually. It'll take a long to time to calculate the true loss of life.

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:30 PM

5. After re-reading your post ...

are you saying we will be in the 10's of millions?

At what value do you see 1%?

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Response to aggiesal (Reply #5)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:44 PM

8. I don't think we have reached 1% of our final case or death totals. We're nowhere close to peaking.

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 12:57 PM

29. Considering the death rate in China is at 4% by the stats

and we won't be following their extreme methods you are right on in that we are nowhere near peaking, but we should be using real percentages rather than those 1% ones. I don't even know where they come from except false media statements.

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Response to aggiesal (Reply #5)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:50 PM

10. The poster seems to be implying 6-7 million ill in the USA,

around 96,000 dead.

I used a 1.4% death rate, what happened to Italy is their hospital system collapsed, likely causing their death rate to soar. If we follow Italy's pattern, we could be looking at close to 1 million dead, a number that I would have swore was not remotely possible here, even with a jackass like Trump in charge.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:22 PM

2. Ok, but how do our populations compare?

They have 60 million, the USA has 330 million. CA has 40 million and is about the same size and climate.

Yes, the press was merciless to Obama, as was the far left. Along with the entire Republican Party.

Thank goodness CA has a great governor.

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Response to Tumbulu (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:28 PM

4. Ok, so compare with China ...

they have over 1 Billion people and currently have 81,667 cases.
Their daily increase is now under 100 per day, while we just hit 15,000.
We could actually take over the number 1 spot by tomorrow evening.
And China has over 3x of our population.

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Response to aggiesal (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:53 PM

11. Yikes. And China has more like 4x USA population. nt

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Response to aggiesal (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:56 PM

13. China aggressively locked down 65 million people and literally

went house to house eventually looking for any sick person to quarantine. Trump and republican governors are basically saying that spreading the virus is less damaging than a falling stock market.

So, we could end up being Italy on steroids, they had a problem in the north of the country and locked it down in about 1 month. Trump has allowed the virus to move into all of the USA's 330 million people.

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Response to aggiesal (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 12:17 AM

16. But in general community is more important there

and we are a bunch of rag tag escapees of civilizations near and far out for our individual selves most of the time, at least that is how it seems sometimes. Especially those who vote Republican.

People wear masks there, people follow rules more carefully. I agree that we are headed to the top of this miserable pandemic. I am really really bummed about it.

And feeling worse every day.

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Response to Tumbulu (Reply #16)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 03:43 AM

20. Reports are claiming a national sense of following the rules in South Korea...

is what allowed them to turn their outbreak around. But here, libertarian Rethugs want no rules or community in society.

The simple truth is that ultra-wealthy plutocrats do not want us to have any community in America because we might actually organize against them. Individualism best suits their needs.

Now, they're making plans for big services on Easter Sunday per Trump's suggestion.......

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:37 PM

6. We're 5 times bigger then italy

Chinaís numbers are suspect at best.

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 12:03 AM

14. Italy isolated it's epicenter in the North within a month.

Trump's incompetent management of our crisis has allowed the virus to move into every part of the USA.

We are bigger yes, but the circumstances have been set to have us produce negative numbers unlike any seen elsewhere.

It will be interesting to see what happens in China now that leaders there are trying to "reopen" the country. If that country loses containment upon reopening, the USA stock market is toast, because it will be clear that the only thing which will stop the virus is a cure, then a vaccine for longterm, and neither of those appear to be on the short-term horizon.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #14)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 03:55 AM

21. To a rational person, our being bigger should make it easier to contain....

as apposed to societies where many live in tight quarters like in China. I fear our insistence on total freedom and mobility ingrained in us for so long is now to our detriment during this disaster.

Spank my hand, there I go being rational again.......

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:41 PM

7. Where is the Press?

My view? In a corner with it's head stuck up it's ass, the same as it was in all of 2016 and before that.

The modern Press is populated by people that have to be liked, to hell with whether the information they pass along are lies and distortions.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Wed Mar 25, 2020, 11:54 PM

12. We'll pass them both tomorrow.

Two of us who have been running the numbers have us at higher than China by end of day tomorrow.

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Response to Ms. Toad (Reply #12)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 12:14 AM

15. My biggest concern is the virus is now in every part of the USA.

Both China and Italy locked down the first epicenters rapidly compared to what has happened here.

I have to admit that you and other people who were worried about this thing in December appear to be right and people like me who believed that we had better capability to contain it were wrong. Trump's incompetence has not helped, especially his dramatically slashing CDC staff in China that could have been literal canaries in a coal mine for us. Trump's rhetoric toward China early on and now hasn't helped and isn't helping in any conceivably constructive way.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #15)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 12:35 AM

18. I wish I hadn't been right.

But my entire goal was to raise awareness so we wouldn't get to this point.

What terrifies me now is that Trump is giving his followers permision to ignore the state imposed restrictions. A few had just started to be convinced that the restrictions were necessary - and then Trump flipped back to his "this is nothing;" 'it's all politics" routine they jumped right on it.

And - just when the momentary relief that they were finally getting it ended, my daughter turns up with a fever of ~103. So we spent most of the day in search of a working thermometer (the battery in a nearly new thermometer died right after informing us her temperature was between 106 and 107). We finally got one this evening, and it's "only" 102.7.

I need a break.

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Response to Ms. Toad (Reply #18)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 12:23 PM

23. Has your daughter visited a Doctor or hospital?

A temperature of 102 is no joy. I was under the impression that if a person reaches a temperature of 106, the person's internal organs begin shutting down, you must have been terrified by her inaccurate readings.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #23)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 01:01 PM

30. She's done a virtual screening

with her insurance doctor. They prescribed tamiflu, based on their assessment that it is just the flu.

I've got a pretty good sense of what her temperature actually is - and my assessment was that it was above 101, but below 103.

That said, I had chronic tonsilitis when I was young, with a fever of 106+, which is why I drove all over creation looking for a thermometer - just as a reality check on my mom-sense. I remember ice baths, and near ice-water enemas as they frantically tried to get my temperature down.

When we actually got a thermometer late last night it was 102.7.

After taking acetaminophen, it was down to 98.3 this morning. I don't expect that it is permanently down - but 107 was clearly out of line.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #15)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 03:25 AM

19. Fired the Pandemic Response Team and Fired the CDC in China ... jus damn. Then people call

... me and ask me if this was on purpose and what does a person say?

There's no way people can be continually stupid against the country, they'd make a stupid mistake in favor of the country every once and a while.

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #19)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 12:30 PM

24. Trump sees the world through the prism of money.

My life experience with such people is that they easily make brutally inhumane decisions if the price of maintaining something doesn't look optimal to them. Trump saw expending several million dollars as a problem, the truly bad thing was that him staying home for 6 weekends out of a year would have more than paid for CDC functions in China.

Now a situation exists where in the absence of a cure and or a vaccine, the economy will either shutdown or limp along, costing trillions of dollars, possibly many tens of trillions, before this situation is under control.

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Response to Ms. Toad (Reply #12)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 12:35 PM

25. My husband is the numbers guy in our household

and he's come to the same conclusion.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 12:29 AM

17. COVID-45.

The virus in the White House.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 05:34 AM

22. Trump's advisors will beg him not to brag about being #1

yes indeed

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 12:37 PM

26. We are Mississippi dam it.

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 12:38 PM

27. We just did. 75K (nt)

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Response to aggiesal (Original post)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 12:38 PM

28. We're there

Just passed Italy.

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Response to spinbaby (Reply #28)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 01:16 PM

31. We'll pass China later today. n/t

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Response to aggiesal (Reply #31)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 01:19 PM

32. Italy just pulled ahead again

They just put up over 6,000 new cases. Unbelievable.

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Response to spinbaby (Reply #32)

Thu Mar 26, 2020, 07:12 PM

33. We're #1 ..

We're #1
We're #1

Not really something to cheer about, but we have a supreme idiot in the WH.

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