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Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:11 PM

Who started idea covid-19 is a bioweapon made by Chinese? GOP bro just talking as if a given

He basically watches Fox etc

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Reply Who started idea covid-19 is a bioweapon made by Chinese? GOP bro just talking as if a given (Original post)
bobbieinok Mar 2020 OP
louis-t Mar 2020 #1
exboyfil Mar 2020 #2
IcyPeas Mar 2020 #3
Midnight Writer Mar 2020 #17
applegrove Mar 2020 #4
intrepidity Mar 2020 #5
XRubicon Mar 2020 #18
Anon-C Mar 2020 #6
Takket Mar 2020 #7
catsudon Mar 2020 #8
NBachers Mar 2020 #10
stillcool Mar 2020 #9
roamer65 Mar 2020 #11
leftyladyfrommo Mar 2020 #13
Igel Mar 2020 #15
leftyladyfrommo Mar 2020 #16
Trailrider1951 Mar 2020 #12
PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2020 #14
Corgigal Mar 2020 #19

Response to bobbieinok (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:12 PM

1. Some S. Koreans are saying that.

Says a Korean friend of a friend.

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Response to bobbieinok (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:15 PM

2. Ask him his source

That should be the obligation of any citizen who has an assertion without facts in a conversation. Ask him to research it.

If our school systems do anything, they need to teach critical thinking skills. This is a fundamental example. I debated in high school, and debate isn't I think/feel - it is facts.

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Response to bobbieinok (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:17 PM

3. Republican Sen. tom cotton spread it:

Besides Cotton, The Washington Times, citing an Israeli biological warfare analyst, suggested the virus was developed in a lab, potentially as part of a Chinese bioweapons program. A story claiming China planned to admit the virus came from the lab was also circulating on Facebook but flagged by fact-checkers as false.

Facts First: Experts have dismissed Cotton's "engineered bioweapon hypothesis" but noted it's possible, yet unlikely, that the lab was connected to the start of the outbreak.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/18/politics/coronavirus-cotton-fact-check/index.html

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 06:28 PM

17. And Tom Cotton is a Rhodes Scholar. He is not stupid, but he is a psychopath.

He's the same Senator who sent a letter to Iran's Ayatollahs warning them not to trust Obama. Despite being a veteran, a traitor.

Watch him. He is a dangerous man who will yield even more power in the future.

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Response to bobbieinok (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:27 PM

4. Rush Limbagh trying to bury the story that it was an unregulated market

that started the vurus: an unregulated wet meat market but and unregulated market nevertheless.

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Response to bobbieinok (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:29 PM

5. Ignorant illiterate people

If they knew how to read and understand the genomic studies going on (nextstrain.org) they would realize how thoroughly debunked that notion is.

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Response to intrepidity (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 06:29 PM

18. +1

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Response to bobbieinok (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:30 PM

6. It was in the conspiracy nets not too long after things went hot in Wuhan, but not before(prior to..

...coronavirus it was all Weinstein/Anti-Biden prop where sleepy joe is creepy joe a sex trafficking blood sucking pedophile, donchaknow). Shortly thereafter the theory that this was purely a chinese bioweapon bubbled-up and within a day or two of that Tom Cotton tweeted about it, went on Fox and pushed it and it's been amplified in the bro-nets ever since.

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Response to bobbieinok (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:32 PM

7. its not..........

Forgive me because I don't remember where I read this.... but basically they way covid-19 is constructed is too dissimilar from existing viruses for it to be man-made. Reason being if you wanted to engineer a virus you would start with an existing one and screw around with its genetic template to build what you want, but that clearly did not happen with covid.......

ah! found the link!!!

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200317175442.htm

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Response to bobbieinok (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:34 PM

8. well

Chinese officials and news outlets said that the United States was the source of the virus.

Lijian Zhao, an official spokesperson for the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3075051/chinese-foreign-ministry-spokesman-tweets-claim-us-military


ps. i do not believe ccp

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Response to catsudon (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:46 PM

10. My Shanghai friend, who's in contact with mainland friends all day, says many in China believe this.

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Response to bobbieinok (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:45 PM

9. I read it was the Russians...

they like they're posions, nukes, weapons...whatever. The Chinese would not grind their economy to a halt on purpose, and they're too smart to make that kind of an error. The United States may have helped Russia, though. I'm sure any right-winger would be okay with that.

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Response to bobbieinok (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:48 PM

11. I highly doubt the Chinese did it on purpose.

But my gut feeling tells me it was an accidental breach at the Wuhan virology facility.

I canít prove it, but I do highly suspect it.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:55 PM

13. That's kind of what I think might have happened.

It is a strange coincidence that the virus started right where there was a biohazard lab.

I read that theory quite a while ago.

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Response to leftyladyfrommo (Reply #13)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 06:19 PM

15. And yet, given the structural analyses of the virus itself,

that's most likely NOT what happened.

It's novel. Either they were working with a virus nobody else had worked on and nobody knew they had or it did what viruses do from time to top and hopped hosts.

The difference between "intentionally made and accidentally released" and just "intentionally made" is trivial.

In fact, "intentionally made and accidentally released" is 99% "was intentionally made."

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Response to Igel (Reply #15)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 06:22 PM

16. I have no answers. It's just odd. nt

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Response to bobbieinok (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 04:49 PM

12. Send him this link:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200317175442.htm

And tell him you prefer real science to bullshit.....it smells much better!

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Response to bobbieinok (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:16 PM

14. People were saying that at the very beginning.

Most people know so very little about real science that they will believe all sorts of crap.

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Response to bobbieinok (Original post)

Mon Mar 23, 2020, 06:29 PM

19. With a 2 percent to 4 fatality rate?

Please..

Nope. Countries could do better, unfortunately.

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