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Fri Mar 20, 2020, 11:35 PM

Copper Destroys Viruses and Bacteria.

>"It could destroy norovirus, MRSA, virulent strains of E. coli, and coronaviruses—including the novel strain currently causing the COVID-19 pandemic."<

>"In the 1854 to 1855 cholera epidemic, Burq could not find any deaths of jewellers, goldsmiths, or boilermakers—all those who worked with copper. In people in the army, he found that musicians who played brass instruments (brass is partly copper) were also protected.

In the 1865 Paris epidemic, 6,176 people died of cholera, out of a population of 1,677,000 people—that’s 3.7 people out of every 1,000. But of the 30,000 who worked in different copper industries, only 45 died—an average of around 0.5 per 1,000."<

>"Today, we have insight into why a person handling copper day in and day out would have protection from a bacterial threat: Copper is antimicrobial. It kills bacteria and viruses, sometimes within minutes. In the 19th century, exposure to copper would have been an early version of constantly sanitizing one's hands.

Since then, studies have shown that copper is able to destroy the microbes that most threaten our lives. It has been shown to kill a long list of microbes, including norovirus, MRSA, a staph bacteria that has become resistant to antibiotics, virulent strains of E. coli that cause food-borne illness, and coronaviruses—possibly including the novel strain currently causing the COVID-19 pandemic."<

>"A study from 1983 found that hospital door knobs made of brass, which is part copper, barely had any E. coli growth on them, compared to stainless steel knobs which were “heavily colonized.” This is significant because of how rampant healthcare-acquired infections are: In the U.S. alone, there are about 1.7 million infections and 99,000 deaths linked to HAIs per year, which cost between $35.7 and $45 billion annually, from the extra treatments people need when they get infected."<


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https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xgqkyw/copper-destroys-viruses-and-bacteria-why-isnt-it-everywhere?utm_source=pocket-newtab

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Reply Copper Destroys Viruses and Bacteria. (Original post)
OxQQme Mar 20 OP
uponit7771 Mar 20 #1
TheBlackAdder Mar 20 #2
jberryhill Mar 20 #3
htuttle Mar 20 #4
roamer65 Mar 20 #5
magicarpet Mar 21 #6
Beakybird Mar 21 #7
Bayard Mar 21 #10
Beartracks Mar 21 #11
lunasun Mar 21 #8
GulfCoast66 Mar 21 #9
Beakybird Mar 21 #12
Kali Mar 21 #13
Beakybird Mar 21 #14
GaYellowDawg Mar 21 #15
krispos42 Mar 21 #17
GulfCoast66 Mar 21 #19
lunasun Mar 21 #18
GulfCoast66 Mar 21 #20
lunasun Mar 21 #22
blogslut Mar 21 #16
Calculating Mar 21 #21
Seattlelib Mar 24 #23

Response to OxQQme (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2020, 11:38 PM

1. Hmmm

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Response to OxQQme (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2020, 11:41 PM

2. Including the good bacteria that is required for the body to survive.

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Response to OxQQme (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2020, 11:44 PM

3. You didn't like this the first time it was posted?

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Response to OxQQme (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2020, 11:45 PM

4. My house has copper doorknobs

It was built in 1909, so the doorknobs probably helped in 1918 as well.

Good to know.

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Response to OxQQme (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2020, 11:47 PM

5. Get some brass dollar coins and play with them in ur hands, folks.

The copper will wear off on to your hands.

I am using credit card and dollar coins, also quarters to pay for things right now. I’m avoiding paper currency.

The handling of our cupronickel and brass coins will definitely not hurt.

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Response to OxQQme (Original post)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 12:04 AM

6. Other metals too,

Silver is antimicrobial,

A commonly used active antimicrobial ingredient is silver, due to its ability to kill off bacteria on surfaces by up to 99.9%. But it appears that silver may have more to offer in its antimicrobial role.

Brass/Bronze/(Yes Copper) are antimicrobial,

The surfaces of copper and its alloys, such as brass and bronze, are antimicrobial. They have an inherent ability to kill a wide range of harmful microbes relatively rapidly – often within two hours or less – and with a high degree of efficiency.

Brass door handles have proven extremely useful in hospitals to significantly cut down on microbials as staph, Sars, Mers and other pathogens.

See page 25 @ link below.

https://books.google.com/books?id=V9bQDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA25&lpg=PA25&dq=hospitals+with+brass+door+knobs+have+fewer+microbial&source=bl&ots=Nr4_ZslnmY&sig=ACfU3U1B-xDnJFOk1iBfloV7nG2inTBuyw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiun5Sm1KroAhUMP6wKHffLBhwQ6AEwDHoECAIQAQ#v=onepage&q=hospitals%20with%20brass%20door%20knobs%20have%20fewer%20microbial&f=true

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Response to OxQQme (Original post)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 12:09 AM

7. I thought the OP was using copper as slang for a policeman, and I thought, "What a great officer!"

I'll try using coins. I've been using cash for so many years. I'm afraid of change!

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Response to Beakybird (Reply #7)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 12:38 AM

10. Snorf!

I see what you did there.

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Response to Beakybird (Reply #7)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 12:48 AM

11. Can't resist a pun: "Don't be afraid of change: Use coins!"



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Response to OxQQme (Original post)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 12:29 AM

9. Ok. I'm finally fed up with this copper Woo.

And it is Woo.

Is copper antimicrobial. Yes. Many metals in that atomic family are. They kill most bacteria in a matter of hours. But in a hospital setting the goal is to kill all bacteria right fucking now. And does anyone have any scientific studies showing these metals effect on viruses? Which are as similar to a bacteria as an elephant is to a jellyfish.

Metals are not disinfectants. Put copper door knobs, bed railings, stair rails in all you want. Hell, use copper nails. But because the metals are not disinfectants the will have to be cleaned in the exact same way Stainless Steel is. So spend 10 times as much for no change in protocol. And it wears out quickly

And all the posts about wearing copper bracelets, carrying pennies or taking copper internally to prevent illness. All bullshit woo.

You know why no actual doctor will tell you to do this? Because it does not work. It’s middle age medicine.

DU is supposed to be a fact based site. Not a home for whacked out internet medical advice.

And here is the danger. People believing this shit will think they have some kind of magical protection and will slack off on doing the things that can really protect you from an illness.

Use this stuff if you want. Unless you take it internally it won’t hurt you. But don’t count on it to protect you.





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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #9)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 12:55 AM

12. Well in a home setting, we have to settle for some bacteria and germs.

And it's better to have surfaces that are less hospitable to germs. There is also research in and some products that have nanoparticles that repel germs and bacteria.

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Response to Beakybird (Reply #12)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 01:12 AM

13. wipe it down with diluted chlorine bleach

for "pennies" instead of wasting big bucks on half-assed woo bullshit

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Response to Kali (Reply #13)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 01:16 AM

14. Ok. I get it.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #9)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 01:49 AM

15. THANK YOU

Woo patrol can be a busy job around here sometimes. You're absolutely right on all points. The only thing I would add is that viruses are even less like bacteria than elephants are clams; viruses aren't technically even life.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #9)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 06:04 AM

17. I think the idea is that...

...if you had brass or bronze hardware as a general thing, they would tend to self-sanitize. Which is generally s good thing.

Obviously it won't work within seconds. But if a business had brass doorknobs, for example, they would be bacteria-free every morning.

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Response to krispos42 (Reply #17)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 11:00 AM

19. Only if they cleaned off all the oil and dirt that accumulated each day.

Anything that gets coated with lots of oils from the human hands along with the dirt that go with it can harbor illness.

Since the whole thing started I am daily cleaning off the door knobs at my work site used by around 50 technicians. The amount of daily build up of grime is surprising.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #9)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 10:10 AM

18. No different than any place on the Internet not special in that sense I have read lots of

nonsense on this site over the years but yes this particular woo does have a recently published study from NIH that I have posted multiple times . This will be my last time here doing that
here since it continues to be posted and obviously no one is reading it
Please see POST #8

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Response to lunasun (Reply #18)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 11:19 AM

20. I acknowledge in my post these metals do kill bacteria over time.

But they do not disinfectant and can still harbors disease. And are really expensive compared to stainless steel. Not to mention much weaker and prone to wearing out. So in a situation that requires really clean surfaces it will need to be cleaned like stainless.

My real ire I reserved for the bracelet, penny and internal copper crowd. Nothing wrong with doing it, except the ingestion idea. But claiming any of the above protects us is just not true.

One of the things that first attracted me to DU was it was a site for those on the left that insisted on being fact, or science based. There are plenty of sites where I can read all types of crazy medical advice. I don’t like seeing it here.

Have a nice weekend. And stay safe.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #20)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 11:54 AM

22. My problem is with the title that it destroys and use of words in the article

coronavirus was “rapidly inactivated.”
4 hours in NIH link I provided
Yes less than stainless steel but not a miracle shield from transmission
Also notice in this op link somewhere its added “using copper along with standard hygiene protocolsl”

I have added the link to OPs so people can see Yes it may be less time than plastic or stainless steel but not a bug zapper or shield

Bracelets / Penny/ high intake of copper for a long time ?I hope not thought of as protection

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Response to OxQQme (Original post)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 02:09 AM

16. You know what kills this virus?

Soap.

Don't drink it though.

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Response to OxQQme (Original post)

Sat Mar 21, 2020, 11:21 AM

21. FFS

This copper rumor going around the internet lately is gonna get people killed.

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Response to OxQQme (Original post)

Tue Mar 24, 2020, 07:55 PM

23. Kitchen Counter tops

I've heard Soapstone is also antimicrobial! They also used to use it as counter tops in chem labs, because its not affected by acid and can withstand up to 4,500 degrees. Does anybody else have anymore information on this?

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