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Fuck all anti-union conservatives everywhere. That is all. nt (Original Post) Zorra Sep 2012 OP
Yep, agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2012 #1
Fuck Yeah! mailman82 Sep 2012 #3
A-fucking-men! backscatter712 Sep 2012 #2
A real problem is many Americans just don't get it that many of the rights they RKP5637 Sep 2012 #4
Absolutely. And this goes so way beyond just the work environment. Zorra Sep 2012 #5
And sooo many in this country, even some democrats, would like to knock out the union pilings RKP5637 Sep 2012 #19
It boggles the mind why any Democrat would want to break the power of unions. Zorra Sep 2012 #32
It is a brainwashed lethargic ambivalent citizenry for the most part. Many have RKP5637 Sep 2012 #34
Too many today want to tear down workers who have a "good deal" rather than demanding the "good deal pampango Sep 2012 #7
Exactly!!! They are promoting the race to the bottom and far too many are RKP5637 Sep 2012 #18
This is the problem of Third Way infiltration. woo me with science Sep 2012 #11
My fear is I think I already know the answer, but will wait and see with an optimistic mind RKP5637 Sep 2012 #16
"Obama’s top spokesman said the president has not taken sides.." woo me with science Sep 2012 #21
"Take no side....." daleanime Sep 2012 #26
This is what torques me, the R's are allowed by default to take the upper hand, then by the RKP5637 Sep 2012 #27
The past 30 years have been very conservative TBF Sep 2012 #14
I was never in a union, because of the nature of the job I had, but I've always RKP5637 Sep 2012 #15
Agree - TBF Sep 2012 #30
My heritage goes back to europe too, I think similarly. Depending on the RKP5637 Sep 2012 #33
In my congressional district we have a Repug TBF Sep 2012 #36
Fuck all so-called "Liberals" that bash unions, too! Odin2005 Sep 2012 #6
Yes indeed! wilsonbooks Sep 2012 #8
which is -a lot- of people pasto76 Sep 2012 #12
+++ 1,000,000 +++ n/t RKP5637 Sep 2012 #22
kick LaydeeBug Sep 2012 #9
Fuck Republicans in Democrat suits. nt woo me with science Sep 2012 #10
We have some democrats in this state, what's left of the RKP5637 Sep 2012 #24
Du rec. Nt xchrom Sep 2012 #13
! n/t porphyrian Sep 2012 #17
With a chainsaw! Fuddnik Sep 2012 #20
Does that include people driving non union made cars? nt sufrommich Sep 2012 #23
DU rec...nt SidDithers Sep 2012 #25
Here in Texas it's bad. BrainMann1 Sep 2012 #28
well said! librechik Sep 2012 #29
piss on rahm emmanuel KG Sep 2012 #31
Without unions this country would be dead. Starry Messenger Sep 2012 #35
Indeed. Especially the New "dem"/DLC/Third way pieces of human garbage. Edweird Sep 2012 #37

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
2. A-fucking-men!
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:10 PM
Sep 2012

They're would-be slave-owners and slave-masters.

The hate I have for those sons-of-bitches has no bounds.

RKP5637

(67,102 posts)
4. A real problem is many Americans just don't get it that many of the rights they
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:18 PM
Sep 2012

do have in a work environment only exist because of what the unions did.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
5. Absolutely. And this goes so way beyond just the work environment.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:44 PM
Sep 2012

Without the long term support of labor unions, Democrats would have been powerless to bring about every single good thing about this country.

RKP5637

(67,102 posts)
19. And sooo many in this country, even some democrats, would like to knock out the union pilings
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:50 PM
Sep 2012

that have supported the democratic party.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
32. It boggles the mind why any Democrat would want to break the power of unions.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:41 PM
Sep 2012
The nation’s union membership rate continued a decades-long slide last year, falling to 11.8 percent of the American work force in 2011, the Bureau of Labor Statistics announced in a report on Friday.


The top 1% takes 43% of the pie while the bottom 90% gets only 36%


"Bwaaahaaahaaa! We told them the wealth would trickle down!"


In effect there are increasingly two economies, a wealthy “top” economy doing very well, and a “bottom” economy for roughly the bottom 99% facing income stagnation, with dwindling wealth and resources.

Only the wealthy few have had income growth in the last 30 years

This next graph [5] shows rapidly increasing income growth for the top 1% in the past ten years. It also shows that for the entire bottom 60% there has been very little growth in per household income over the last 30 years, well under 1% annually.


Union membership: Declining steadily since Reagan.

Workers: Declining income equality since Reagan.

The wealthiest Americans: Markedly increased income since Reagan.

"Bwaaahaaahaaa! We told them the wealth would trickle down!"


WAKE UP AMERICA!!!

RKP5637

(67,102 posts)
34. It is a brainwashed lethargic ambivalent citizenry for the most part. Many have
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:04 PM
Sep 2012

no idea of the battles fought to provide what they have left today. It's a society woefully lacking a comprehensive education.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
7. Too many today want to tear down workers who have a "good deal" rather than demanding the "good deal
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:55 PM
Sep 2012

for themselves.

The GOP politics of creating envy of other workers who have it a little better than you is done in a way that is supposed to motivate you to drag those workers down to your level rather than provide bring you up to theirs. Unfortunately, conservatives have been quite good at selling that brand of politics.

RKP5637

(67,102 posts)
18. Exactly!!! They are promoting the race to the bottom and far too many are
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:47 PM
Sep 2012

climbing aboard the train while waving the flag and cheering on the destruction of their own future.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
11. This is the problem of Third Way infiltration.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:48 PM
Sep 2012

During the debt ceiling debate, Obama chose not to correct the malignant Republican talking points about the need for austerity. Instead, he chose to give speeches about pea eating and to cement all the right-wing lies about our economy and what is needed to fix it.

This strike is an opportunity for Democrats to CORRECT the union bashing narrative that has taken hold in this country. The President has a bully pulpit and the resources to take control of this narrative and educate the country.

What they choose to say and do here, and how passionately and persistently they say and do it, will convey a lot about the depth of the infiltration we face.

RKP5637

(67,102 posts)
16. My fear is I think I already know the answer, but will wait and see with an optimistic mind
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:43 PM
Sep 2012

for the best.

RKP5637

(67,102 posts)
27. This is what torques me, the R's are allowed by default to take the upper hand, then by the
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:58 PM
Sep 2012

time the WH responds, and gets beyond the compromise bit, the republicans have cemented in the nations' mind whatever they wish. This, is just one more example.

TBF

(32,041 posts)
14. The past 30 years have been very conservative
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:30 PM
Sep 2012

rule in this country - and that includes the current administration. Not that they aren't better than the competition, but we are still sitting in the center at best and that just lends itself to being pulled right.

Labor history is not taught in schools, and the many of the hard-core labor members who worked in manufacturing jobs were laid off years ago. Those jobs aren't coming back, but our unions ought to be in the retail and other service spheres. Instead folks seem to be just watching as wages go lower & lower. The longer it continues the harder the fight will be to bring them back up.

K&R for the OP.

RKP5637

(67,102 posts)
15. I was never in a union, because of the nature of the job I had, but I've always
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:40 PM
Sep 2012

appreciated the unions and have always recognized the tremendous job they did of improving working conditions and wages for everyone. I just don't get it, so many Americans are so nonchalant as everything slips and is taken from them.

I have no idea anymore what it will take to wake this country up. I thought 8 years of Bush was doing it, but apparently not. I feel quite uncomfortable in the US, I really question what the future holds. Way too many are politically naive and gullible, and far too many think TV ads are giving them the correct information, for example. And way too many are proud of their ignorance.

Joseph Goebbels would have loved the US today, he could have done anything he wanted and many Americans would goggle it right up.

TBF

(32,041 posts)
30. Agree -
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:24 PM
Sep 2012

a line in my family traces themselves back to a Puritan who came here in 1635. Frankly, at this point, I wish he had stayed in England. Not that Europe is perfect, but at least with social issues I think I'd be much more comfortable somewhere like Sweden. This country is becoming quite frightening.

RKP5637

(67,102 posts)
33. My heritage goes back to europe too, I think similarly. Depending on the
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:53 PM
Sep 2012

results of the elections the US could be a frightening place. Already here we don't even have democrats that are running for office anymore, for the most part, in Nov.

And the moderate republicans were voted out in the recent primaries. All we have left now, for the most part, are right wing loony teabaggers. And, the state is projected to go, seriously, 99.7% for Romney/Ryan. They all really wanted Santorum for president in the primaries, but now have to settle for Romney/Ryan as their saviors.

We have a major congressional election coming up and the republican is running unchallenged in this huge district.


TBF

(32,041 posts)
36. In my congressional district we have a Repug
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:27 PM
Sep 2012

and a LaRouchie democrat who wants to impeach Obama. What a choice. No one wants to put serious money into the races here until we get better dem turnout so it's a catch-22. I'm convinced we might have a chance with our new state democratic chairman who is Hispanic to reach labor. If we can get them organized and voting we'll have a shot at doing much better.

It is frightening to see a lot of young people reaching out to the Ron Paul campaign - they like what he has to say about MJ and ending the wars. Unfortunately his economic policies and views toward women are just as bad if not worse than the repugs. Greece is being threatened with fascism and similarly we will be here as well.

RKP5637

(67,102 posts)
24. We have some democrats in this state, what's left of the
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:55 PM
Sep 2012

democratic party, that are so right wing they are right wing of some of the R right wingers.

BrainMann1

(460 posts)
28. Here in Texas it's bad.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:00 PM
Sep 2012

Some of us don't have any idea that the work environment can be all company and you have to put up with anything they say. When faced with this they just hide thier faces.

 

Edweird

(8,570 posts)
37. Indeed. Especially the New "dem"/DLC/Third way pieces of human garbage.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 09:26 PM
Sep 2012

I have a white hot hatred of them that burns with the power of a thousand suns. They are the worst kind of two-faced lowlife scum.

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