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Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:56 PM

 

My bet is there will be a virus treatment before a vaccine

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Reply My bet is there will be a virus treatment before a vaccine (Original post)
evertonfc Mar 2020 OP
tanyev Mar 2020 #1
LaurenOlimina Mar 2020 #2
Laelth Mar 2020 #3
evertonfc Mar 2020 #5
Laelth Mar 2020 #7
applegrove Mar 2020 #6
Laelth Mar 2020 #8
GumboYaYa Mar 2020 #11
applegrove Mar 2020 #15
applegrove Mar 2020 #18
canetoad Mar 2020 #10
Laelth Mar 2020 #12
thesquanderer Mar 2020 #17
Phoenix61 Mar 2020 #4
Laelth Mar 2020 #9
Hoyt Mar 2020 #13
customerserviceguy Mar 2020 #14
hlthe2b Mar 2020 #16

Response to evertonfc (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:59 PM

1. Quick, accurate testing + effective treatment would be a really good start.

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Response to evertonfc (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:05 PM

2. yeah

 

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Response to evertonfc (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:06 PM

3. Interesting.

Care to explain why you believe that?



-Laelth

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Response to Laelth (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:09 PM

5. I read on marketwatch.com

 

where several pharmaceutical companies said it they were inching closer to several treatments now

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Response to evertonfc (Reply #5)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:14 PM

7. Nifty. Thanks. n/t

-Laelth

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Response to Laelth (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:10 PM

6. There are trials for treatments going on as we speak. Older malaria medication

and HIV medication as well as other anti-virals. And if they work they don't have to go through any testing to see if they are safe.Trials in china and i'm sure elsewhere. That is where my hope is.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:15 PM

8. I see. That makes sense. Thanks. n/t

-Laelth

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Response to applegrove (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:21 PM

11. South Korea is using hydroxychloroquine as standard of care

and their death rate is substantially lower. It is a zinc ionophore and zinc in cytoplasm has been show to disrupt RdRP from replicating virus RNA. I started taking quercetin (a natural zinc ionophore) and zinc last week.

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Response to GumboYaYa (Reply #11)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:36 PM

15. I will look for it.

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Response to GumboYaYa (Reply #11)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:31 PM

18. Got some zinc lozenges. Someone else had told me to do that. I only

have to be told twice.

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Response to Laelth (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:21 PM

10. This story about a 'cure'

Has been doing the rounds for a day or two. Unfortunately news.com.au is Murdoch owned and I'd like to see the story being covered by Fairfax media or the Australian Broadcasting Corp before taking it for granted.

However, the University of Queensland announced a vaccine candidate a couple of weeks ago and I believe it is in testing right now.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12317268

Coronavirus: Australian researchers want drug trial after positive results

A team of Australian researchers say they've found drugs effective in fighting the novel coronavirus and hope to have patients enrolled in a nationwide trial by the end of the month.

University of Queensland Centre for Clinical Research director Professor David Paterson told news.com.au today they have seen two drugs used to treat other conditions wipe out the virus in test tubes.

He said one of the medications, given to some of the first people to test positive for Covid-19 in Australia, had already resulted in "disappearance of the virus" and complete recovery from the infection.

Paterson, who is also an infectious disease physician at the Royal Brisbane and Women's Hospital, said the drugs were "a potentially effective treatment".

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Response to canetoad (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:24 PM

12. Cure is out of the question.

A vaccine would be ideal, but some kind of “treatment” will do. Thank you for the post.

-Laelth

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Response to Laelth (Reply #12)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:57 PM

17. Cure and vaccine serve different people.

vaccine wont help those who have it.

cure wont stop people from getting it.

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Response to evertonfc (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:08 PM

4. That's not be the case for most viruses so far.

Seems it’s easier to get the body’s immune system to do a seek and destroy.

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Response to Phoenix61 (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:16 PM

9. You just don't want the body to go too far ...

... and do a seek-and-destroy on itself. That’s a real possibility with COVID-19. More here:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213100840

-Laelth

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Response to evertonfc (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:27 PM

13. That's what I've read. Of course, the vast majority infected don't need any treatment,

 

just isolation to prevent transmission.

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Response to evertonfc (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:34 PM

14. Seems reasonable

Doctors will be trying drugs that have already gained approval, so that should make studies easier to complete earlier.

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Response to evertonfc (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:51 PM

16. Almost assuredly. But all the attention is on producing NEW antivirals (to be patented) rather than

systematically evaluating all previous. Even the old-time anti-malarial chloroquine, has shown some promise pending some concerted study. Hopefully, some of the academic centers will do the rigorous trails of these existing drugs to see which, if any, should have new purpose.

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