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Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:43 AM

Almost as if it's the people at the bottom who create wealth

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Reply Almost as if it's the people at the bottom who create wealth (Original post)
kpete Mar 2020 OP
Moostache Mar 2020 #1
secondwind Mar 2020 #2
Ohiogal Mar 2020 #3
UpInArms Mar 2020 #4
MissMillie Mar 2020 #5
AllaN01Bear Mar 2020 #6
hangaleft Mar 2020 #51
Tweedy Mar 2020 #60
ancianita Mar 2020 #7
panader0 Mar 2020 #8
ALBliberal Mar 2020 #9
blue-wave Mar 2020 #11
panader0 Mar 2020 #14
DSandra Mar 2020 #59
lagomorph777 Mar 2020 #21
grantcart Mar 2020 #32
panader0 Mar 2020 #40
EarnestPutz Mar 2020 #46
al bupp Mar 2020 #50
blue-wave Mar 2020 #10
spike jones Mar 2020 #12
FailureToCommunicate Mar 2020 #15
smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #22
KSNY Mar 2020 #24
PatrickforO Mar 2020 #26
DarthDem Mar 2020 #27
Newest Reality Mar 2020 #30
Backseat Driver Mar 2020 #52
Firestorm49 Mar 2020 #13
overleft Mar 2020 #16
geardaddy Mar 2020 #17
ck4829 Mar 2020 #18
Bluethroughu Mar 2020 #19
keithbvadu2 Mar 2020 #20
PatrickforO Mar 2020 #25
LuvNewcastle Mar 2020 #45
PatrickforO Mar 2020 #23
burrowowl Mar 2020 #28
Bengus81 Mar 2020 #29
bigbrother05 Mar 2020 #33
Newest Reality Mar 2020 #31
not fooled Mar 2020 #36
Newest Reality Mar 2020 #38
ChazInAz Mar 2020 #44
DBoon Mar 2020 #34
Newest Reality Mar 2020 #39
Backseat Driver Mar 2020 #53
NCjack Mar 2020 #35
not fooled Mar 2020 #37
Backseat Driver Mar 2020 #54
TheFourthMind Mar 2020 #41
Cary Mar 2020 #43
Cary Mar 2020 #42
Dem2theMax Mar 2020 #47
PoliWrangler Mar 2020 #48
Glaisne Mar 2020 #49
Lisa0825 Mar 2020 #58
applegrove Mar 2020 #55
warmfeet Mar 2020 #56
Blue Owl Mar 2020 #57
Mike Niendorff Mar 2020 #61
papa3times Mar 2020 #62
SunSeeker Mar 2020 #63
wnylib Mar 2020 #64
wnylib Mar 2020 #65
IronLionZion Mar 2020 #66

Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:49 AM

1. K&F'nR!!! AMEN!!! (n/t)

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:55 AM

2. Kickety kick!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:13 AM

3. + 1000!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:22 AM

4. As if there was any doubt

... yet, according to the .01%, they made all that money on their very own

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:25 AM

5. (sarcasm) Socialist! (/sarcasm)

Available on Netflix now:

http://inequalityforall.com/

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:27 AM

6. this job creator is nothing more than nonsense .

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Response to AllaN01Bear (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:07 PM

51. It's a bullshit excuse used to justify the 1%'s glomming all the wealth

 

Just like trickle down is a bullshit excuse to justify tax cuts for the rich.

P.S. The blurb in the OP is the reason I strongly supported Elizabeth Warren’s candidacy and am so despondent about the missed opportunity of electing a president who made going to war over that kind of crap the cornerstone of her campaign.

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Response to hangaleft (Reply #51)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:19 PM

60. Senator Warren is not going anywhere

From the senate, she and others who agree with her, will continue to persist.

President Joe Biden will neither ignore her, nor the millions of other voices calling for sanity.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:28 AM

7. Whoda thunk!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:31 AM

8. Abraham Lincoln:

Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.

Abraham Lincoln

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Response to panader0 (Reply #8)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:35 AM

9. Excellent I'm stealing.

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Response to panader0 (Reply #8)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:38 AM

11. Yes, great quote!!

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Response to blue-wave (Reply #11)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:45 AM

14. As a bricklayer for 40+ years I saw how

those who work the hardest get paid the least.
I should have been born into a rich family and would never have had to
do anything.....nah-- I actually enjoyed my work, I am probably healthier
because of it.

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Response to panader0 (Reply #14)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:01 PM

59. One can conclude that much if not most of the rich are overglamourized leeches n/t

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Response to panader0 (Reply #8)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:14 AM

21. So ... we really have a Laborist economy, hijacked by ersatz "Capitalists"

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Response to panader0 (Reply #8)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:41 AM

32. Pretty good summary of Marx"a Labor Theory of Value.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #32)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:19 AM

40. OMG! Rs would freak out knowing that the best Republican ever

was echoed by Marx. But yeah....

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Response to panader0 (Reply #8)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:56 AM

46. Like ALBliberal just said, this quote is excellent and I have already stolen it. See my...

...signature line for it's new quote. Thank you very much.

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Response to panader0 (Reply #8)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:27 PM

50. In my understanding, this point is more or less the basis of Marxism /nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:37 AM

10. Oh!!

Surely you jest!! It's gonna come trickling down at any moment now!!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:39 AM

12. pyramid of capitalist system

[link:|

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Response to spike jones (Reply #12)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:47 AM

15. Yup. That's it right there! Not rocket science.

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Response to spike jones (Reply #12)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:16 AM

22. +1000

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Response to spike jones (Reply #12)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:23 AM

24. Love this! Thank you.

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Response to spike jones (Reply #12)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:25 AM

26. I LOVE IT!!

Of course I've seen this before, but now it has ever greater meaning for us all.

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Response to spike jones (Reply #12)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:28 AM

27. Unlimited ++++ for this


I've never seen that before; thanks. Not much has changed since 1911. Well, things actually did change for a while. But corporations and their enthusiastic backers made sure we got right back "on track," now 109 years later.

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Response to spike jones (Reply #12)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:33 AM

30. Bingo!

Without the base of the pyramid, it doesn't even go up to the peak. It has to be built on a foundation.

Pull that out and boom, it collapses. Let's watch.

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Response to spike jones (Reply #12)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:35 PM

52. Plan B seems to be working just fine so far

A tiny piece of RNA suddenly has rulers (malignant narcissists), foolers (corrupt ass-kissers), and uniformed order followers (medaled TBI'd officers of the line) worried they might actually have to do a few chores themselves to fix their portfolios or, curses, share it to get some of it back; change their complicated snake-oil tunes, scripts, and talking points, and maybe even metaphorically shoot their beloved granny in front of the grandkids that they are trying to protect from all the chaos and trauma while trying to avoid the risk of driving the "bring out your dead" carts. I'm the ghost of promises broken and barely even on the chart. Many will be left with some version of an adjustment disorder that will haunt their sleep and tire their brains. It won't last forever, but then neither will this lesson save any of them from exposure/infection nor will their hateful "cult" worship... For a moment in time, I'm as expensive as I can be on that lower level of existence!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:43 AM

13. 100% true - in a normal circumstance.,

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:51 AM

16. They are the wealth creators......

Until the the one percenters steal it from us!!!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:53 AM

17. Bam!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:08 AM

18. K&R

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:10 AM

19. Thank you for clearing that up

For those masters of their universe.

We are the makers, they are the takers.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:12 AM

20. Emergency funds

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #20)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:24 AM

25. Why, it's corporate SOSH-A-LIZM!! We cannot EVER have no

SOSH-A-LIZM, but the corporations and billionaires certainly can.

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #20)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:50 AM

45. This.

I read today that most businesses only have enough capital to support themselves for about 27 days, hence, the bill Republican Senators are trying to pass right now. They want to give nearly a trillion away to businesses, but they hold up a bill to provide a little bit of relief to ordinary people. They're really pushing things to the limit here, and I think people are about to get fed up.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:23 AM

23. Oh, my goodness! Yes!

Almost as if...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:31 AM

28. Kick

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:32 AM

29. Yeah and where REAL tax cuts and relief should happen....

Trumps latest BS Fed interest cut so someone can get a new Yacht and a hell of a rate does ZIP for the economy.

Meanwhile Bank Credit cards still running 15/18/25%.

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Response to Bengus81 (Reply #29)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:45 AM

33. Yes, got to give them money at 0% so the unemployed can borrow it

There wasn't enough "liquidity" in the financial markets, so the Mango Mushhead had to be sure they had plenty on hand to make a killing from the working class that "do all the living and dying" to keep the economy afloat.

Keeping mortgage rates down don't help a family that doesn't have a steady income.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:35 AM

31. Okay, People!

Don't get a all socialist and We The People now as if you just woke up from a capitalist nightmare and see it like it is!!!!

I mean, get with the official program about the meritocracy, hard work, boot straps, (they are out of them right now) etc. Nobody gets to leave The Matrix.

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Response to Newest Reality (Reply #31)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:10 AM

36. And The Market is sacrosanct

because it magically provides jobs and creates wealth for all.




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Response to not fooled (Reply #36)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:13 AM

38. Holy, holy, holy!

The Golden Calf is our idol. All bow and pause for worship. And now, repeat: Consume mass quantities. AMEN!

Well, it won't be sustainable. Nature has other plans.

That bull on Wall St. seems to be a double entendre as far as what it symbolizes.

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Response to not fooled (Reply #36)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:37 AM

44. And...

"The kings are our dear fathers, under whose care we live in peace."

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:49 AM

34. The forgotten last chapter of Atlas Shrugged

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Response to DBoon (Reply #34)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:18 AM

39. Well,

"They" are working hard on the army of robots. Gotta' hand it to "them". I use quotes more often on missing referents in order to be clear about that.

The question is, what happens to the "humanoid resources" when that comes to pass? That is not a paranoid question, it is really something that needs to be addressed now as we nosedive deep into a 4th Industrial Revolution, after the major Recession for them, Depression for us, that is.

It looks like truck drivers are among the first in line. Playing it down is not working for me because the proposed "new jobs" are not going to mimic the past revolutions in innovation that we have seen. That's just placating people for now.

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Response to Newest Reality (Reply #39)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:41 PM

53. Open the pod door, Hal - I'm sorry, Dave. I can't do that, LOL!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:57 AM

35. If only the rich would accelerate the construction of factories and resource exploitation

the economy would bounce back -- NOT.

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Response to NCjack (Reply #35)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:12 AM

37. And if only there were fewer burdensome regulations and government interference

in The Market...then it would finally be free to work perfectly!!!

Oops, wait...

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Response to not fooled (Reply #37)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:46 PM

54. Meanwhile, how them "Human Factors" working out for yah now, sis!

Did you remember to include the "mind" of a few snips of very adaptable RNA in those predictive values and algorithms?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:20 AM

41. Consumer Power!

This crisis certainly exposes our parasites as being void of capital and intelligence and power. Needs to be a World Consumers Union.

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Response to TheFourthMind (Reply #41)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:24 AM

43. The economy is 2/3 consumer spending

That is a hard fact.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:23 AM

42. As an economics major at the University of Illinois, 1978 to 1982

I was taught real economic theory.

And it was my introduction to the depth and breadth of "conservative" sophistry.

The economy, literally, is Consumer Spending + Investment + Government Spending + Exports - Imports. I don't see any "makers and takers" in that equation. Their "makers" will "make" at the point of equilibrium, where marginal profit equals zero. Businesses are price takers, not price makers.

Oddly when I confront University of Chicago economics majors they are wholly unable to engage me in classical economics, supply and demand.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:55 PM

47. Wish I could rec this 100 times.

I also wish I could put it up on billboards all over the country.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 02:24 PM

48. kick!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 03:44 PM

49. All national wealth comes from just two sources.

Natural resources and labor. Capitalism is the exploitation of both.

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Response to Glaisne (Reply #49)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:06 PM

58. Bingo.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:27 PM

55. So true.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:06 PM

56. Yep.

We create it, and they take it away. If only there were some type of system, some mechanism, people could use to level the playing field.

Vote November 3rd, your life and your livelihood depend on it.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:13 PM

57. K&R

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:41 PM

61. Hell. Yes.


#ExactlyTHIS


MDN

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:24 AM

62. Labor

creates all wealth!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 02:36 AM

63. Please post the link to the tweet in your OP so I can retweet it.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 06:32 AM

64. Reminds me of a painting print

I saw once. A well-dressed couple dancing on the beach in the rain while another couple, dressed as servants, stands by holding up umbrellas. Called "The Singing Butler."

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Response to wnylib (Reply #64)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 07:15 AM

65. Described as s romantic painting

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Mar 18, 2020, 08:18 AM

66. Job creators will just send more jobs to China


Good thing we got all those tax cuts for the rich. It's really helping the economy so much.

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