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proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:42 AM Sep 2012

Please post in this thread if you support Chicago teachers.

Here is the union's press release. Please read it for details about this strike. There is so much misinformation, right here on DU!

http://www.ctunet.com/blog/cps-fails-to-negotiate-fair-contract-to-prevent-first-labor-strike-in-25-years

This is about teachers demanding what's best for children.







Solidarity with Chicago teachers! They are demanding what the children of Chicago deserve - great schools!

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Please post in this thread if you support Chicago teachers. (Original Post) proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 OP
SOLIDARITY FOREVER, FOR THE UNION MAKES US STRONG! no_hypocrisy Sep 2012 #1
While I support the teachers... addltd Sep 2012 #228
Welcome to DU addltd no_hypocrisy Sep 2012 #234
Thank you, teachers, for your service. porphyrian Sep 2012 #2
1000%. nt boston bean Sep 2012 #3
I'll see your 1000% and raise it another 8000% for a total of 9000% Zalatix Sep 2012 #274
Allow me to knock it OVER 9,000 Scootaloo Sep 2012 #277
+ a brazillion!!! n/t Greybnk48 Sep 2012 #297
I support the teachers 100%. Waiting For Everyman Sep 2012 #4
100% support! ananda Sep 2012 #5
solidarity forever xchrom Sep 2012 #6
Support! Starry Messenger Sep 2012 #7
very few people in our lives barbtries Sep 2012 #8
Indeed. Good strike, good luck! Robb Sep 2012 #9
K&R Odin2005 Sep 2012 #10
Solidarity K&R! demmiblue Sep 2012 #11
Perfect! mountain grammy Sep 2012 #27
Welcome to DU, mountain grammy! demmiblue Sep 2012 #141
k/r limpyhobbler Sep 2012 #12
100% MerryBlooms Sep 2012 #13
Which Side Are You On -- Pete Seeger xchrom Sep 2012 #14
CPS Parent Here...My daughter is upstairs getting ready for Strike Camp at the Neighborhood Boys and alcibiades_mystery Sep 2012 #15
God bless you for your support..... AnneD Sep 2012 #256
+1. Teachers and Parents are natural allies. Or OUGHT to be. Smarmie Doofus Sep 2012 #293
Solidarity!.....I totally support unions and the Chicago teachers! whathehell Sep 2012 #16
This teacher's union rep support the striking teachers of Chicago KitSileya Sep 2012 #17
Stand By Me w/ grandpa elliot xchrom Sep 2012 #18
A flat-out incredible video and a helluva great song! jamesatemple Sep 2012 #113
loved it and shared it on FB for Solidarty with Chicago teachers unapatriciated Sep 2012 #278
K&R !!! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2012 #19
K&R rosesaylavee Sep 2012 #20
thank you for standing up rurallib Sep 2012 #21
Solidarity! TahitiNut Sep 2012 #22
Proud daughter of a public school teacher, checking in! Chorophyll Sep 2012 #23
Solidarity!! VenusRising Sep 2012 #24
Total support mainstreetonce Sep 2012 #25
If you have a job, you had better support these Teachers. liberal N proud Sep 2012 #26
Yes, and I wish schools and colleges (where I teach) in WI did the same - though for SWTORFanatic Sep 2012 #28
Solidarity!!! GObamaGO Sep 2012 #29
Support teachers! yardwork Sep 2012 #30
K&R. Overseas Sep 2012 #31
27 year educator here. SOLIDARITY! Ishoutandscream2 Sep 2012 #32
k&r... solidarity. spanone Sep 2012 #33
They have my support! cordelia Sep 2012 #34
I support the teachers and their union lunatica Sep 2012 #35
I support public school teachers everywhere. qb Sep 2012 #36
I was a steward and local recording secretary for the OCAW mountain grammy Sep 2012 #37
Standing up for teachers yellerpup Sep 2012 #38
Solidarity! AllyCat Sep 2012 #39
Support them 100%. HappyMe Sep 2012 #40
Chicago born and bred, suburban raised and public school educated -- 100% support Tansy_Gold Sep 2012 #41
I'm in. badhair77 Sep 2012 #42
Now we know why Rahm Emmanuel has been put on a back burner in the Obama campaign. JDPriestly Sep 2012 #43
When I heard that one of the issues was Lifelong Protester Sep 2012 #44
Joey the Scar and his crew were bitching this morning about Volaris Sep 2012 #284
The story about a 16% raise offer is a lie proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #298
100% solidarity forever. 99Forever Sep 2012 #45
They need more schools and smaller class rooms. This is how we can make teaching JRLeft Sep 2012 #46
sally field time PatrynXX Sep 2012 #47
Playing For Change Band - A Change Is Gonna Come live xchrom Sep 2012 #48
Huge K &R. daleanime Sep 2012 #49
Solidarity. MannyGoldstein Sep 2012 #50
support any teacher as well as Flashmann Sep 2012 #51
K&R tk2kewl Sep 2012 #52
K&R!!! BlueMTexpat Sep 2012 #53
In support with the teachers. sinkingfeeling Sep 2012 #54
Solidarity and good luck to them. Brickbat Sep 2012 #55
Solidarity knr Zorra Sep 2012 #56
Solidarity. Arctic Dave Sep 2012 #57
I stand with the teachers MsLeopard Sep 2012 #58
My heartfelt support for Chicago teachers jumptheshadow Sep 2012 #59
K&R - Absolutely support the teachers suffragette Sep 2012 #60
kick valerief Sep 2012 #61
As a retired teacher, kemah Sep 2012 #62
I support TEACHERS and I support UNIONS! BuelahWitch Sep 2012 #63
Hang in there, Teach! We support you 100%! meti57b Sep 2012 #64
Non-working teacher supporting working teachers here! KansDem Sep 2012 #65
k & r n/t ejbr Sep 2012 #66
TOTALLY SUPPORT!!! LovingA2andMI Sep 2012 #67
I logged on to lend my support to striking Chicago teachers me b zola Sep 2012 #68
100% solidarity!!!! laruemtt Sep 2012 #69
I support teachers........... n/t prairierose Sep 2012 #70
Solidarity Metatron Sep 2012 #71
Solidarity! Salviati Sep 2012 #72
Biggest K&R I can find to you all. n/t Egalitarian Thug Sep 2012 #73
"If you can read this ... lpbk2713 Sep 2012 #74
Support from Whovian. Whovian Sep 2012 #75
I taught in IL and this brings back memories of a strike for class size etc. snappyturtle Sep 2012 #76
Solidarity! patrice Sep 2012 #77
Solidarity brothers and sisters! geardaddy Sep 2012 #78
absolutely! il_lilac Sep 2012 #79
I support them 100%. The Link Sep 2012 #80
1000% support Turk 182 Sep 2012 #81
Absolutely support 100% F. Kafka Sep 2012 #82
Solidarity!! Ram Rahm! byeya Sep 2012 #83
Retired teacher says way to go! clydefrand Sep 2012 #84
Public school teachers JEB Sep 2012 #85
Kick! Luminous Animal Sep 2012 #86
Go Teachers!!!!! Fuddnik Sep 2012 #87
Support Johnny Noshoes Sep 2012 #88
K&R n/t JoeyT Sep 2012 #89
Kick for ProSense Sep 2012 #90
Hey... YvonneCa Sep 2012 #158
Solidarity Pat Riot Sep 2012 #91
Kick DontTreadOnMe Sep 2012 #92
K&R! woo me with science Sep 2012 #93
Support them or quit calling yourself a Democrat. Jakes Progress Sep 2012 #94
Thank you. nt woo me with science Sep 2012 #127
My father taught public school for 39 years 1gobluedem Sep 2012 #95
Solidarity! Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2012 #96
Go Teachers Go!! KamaAina Sep 2012 #97
solidarity from Florida!! Sancho Sep 2012 #98
Where working people defend their rights, that's where you'll find coalition_unwilling Sep 2012 #99
K&R cornflake_31 Sep 2012 #100
Teachers: fuck yeah! Ian David Sep 2012 #101
in this thread Systematic Chaos Sep 2012 #102
I support the striking teachers! intheflow Sep 2012 #103
Bump for great teachers, great students, and great schools! (and a rec too) silvershadow Sep 2012 #104
GO TEACHERS!!! Plucketeer Sep 2012 #105
As a former public school ann--- Sep 2012 #106
This proud MEA/NEA member stands in solidarity with my Chicago brothers & sisters catbyte Sep 2012 #107
Amen! This one, too! knitter4democracy Sep 2012 #199
I support the teachers and their union. nt hack89 Sep 2012 #108
I stand with the teachers. Bluenorthwest Sep 2012 #109
Up up up with labor Populist_Prole Sep 2012 #110
K&R! Fearless Sep 2012 #111
Solidarity! efilon Sep 2012 #112
Solidarity forever. salib Sep 2012 #114
K&R Zoeisright Sep 2012 #115
Solidarity. WilliamPitt Sep 2012 #116
I am with the teachers. The policitcans have no clue how hard teaching is.... kimbutgar Sep 2012 #117
This retired USWA member in solidarity..... jdadd Sep 2012 #118
I support them! Alduin Sep 2012 #119
I have former students on that line today. I am very proud of them. davsand Sep 2012 #120
Adding my voice/vote/support OriginalGeek Sep 2012 #121
Solidarity!!!!!! G_j Sep 2012 #122
I support Beringia Sep 2012 #123
Teachers and Unions rock Vincardog Sep 2012 #124
I always support teachers (used to be one), especially now when the only unions who still fight are Vidar Sep 2012 #125
K&R Oilwellian Sep 2012 #126
Kick! sarcasmo Sep 2012 #128
Solidarity! nt The Midway Rebel Sep 2012 #129
K&R for the REAL job creators! wakemewhenitsover Sep 2012 #130
Support Chicago tchrs. n/t ChazII Sep 2012 #131
100% support for them. They should have done it long ago. sabrina 1 Sep 2012 #132
You DUers ROCK!! proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #133
Their list of demands seems pretty reasonable. This should be over in a week or 2 because it's not craigmatic Sep 2012 #134
As long as we have children we will need teachers proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #140
I agree with that in principle but in practice it only adds to the craigmatic Sep 2012 #187
Well, when we have Medicare for all, that might happen Lifelong Protester Sep 2012 #258
I just retired in NYC. You can have my job. By which I mean..... Smarmie Doofus Sep 2012 #280
It's about much more than money tama Sep 2012 #282
It's time for Corporate Democrats like Rahm Emmanuel to put up or shut up! Peace Patriot Sep 2012 #135
It's so nice, I'll post here twice. Support Our Educators!!! nt Zorra Sep 2012 #136
I support all dedicated teachers! MineralMan Sep 2012 #137
This message was self-deleted by its author bvar22 Sep 2012 #151
Kicking again woo me with science Sep 2012 #138
Video from the North Side Prism Sep 2012 #139
1976 El Rancho Unified School District...CTA...NEA...EREA...CFT ... I stand with Chicago Teachers cr8tvlde Sep 2012 #142
K&R. n/t gkhouston Sep 2012 #143
100% DemocratsForProgress Sep 2012 #144
Solidarity! opiate69 Sep 2012 #145
Standing with the teachers! onestepforward Sep 2012 #146
SOLIDARITY! n/t backscatter712 Sep 2012 #147
absolutely dsc Sep 2012 #148
I stand with the Unions. Autumn Sep 2012 #149
Solidarity!!! bvar22 Sep 2012 #150
30 year? jpbollma Sep 2012 #153
I do. hunter Sep 2012 #152
Solidarity! nt riderinthestorm Sep 2012 #154
my Mom in the '70s bigtree Sep 2012 #155
+1 Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #156
I absolutely support them. This is not about money/salary. It is about... YvonneCa Sep 2012 #157
Absolutely support! marew Sep 2012 #159
100% Solidarity with Teachers! ComtesseDeSpair Sep 2012 #160
CWA here mitchtv Sep 2012 #161
Solidarity! AzDar Sep 2012 #162
Of course I support the Chicago teachers, MadHound Sep 2012 #163
I'm with them. immoderate Sep 2012 #164
The large Polish-American community in Chicago can appreciate this... Bozita Sep 2012 #165
Solidarity from a union steward teacher in Florida! Riley18 Sep 2012 #166
Solidarity now and forever! chazzio Sep 2012 #167
Support the teachers and public education. kiranon Sep 2012 #168
Right on! --nt CrispyQ Sep 2012 #169
Support Teachers! nt Ilsa Sep 2012 #170
K&R Misinformation and DISinformation. Hissyspit Sep 2012 #171
Solidarity! tclambert Sep 2012 #172
Union Yes! Teamster Jeff Sep 2012 #173
++ Teamster Jeff Sep 2012 #300
Stay strong, teachers! We love you! cp Sep 2012 #174
go for it DonCoquixote Sep 2012 #175
Up with teacher salaries. Down with Mayor Rahmney's school privatization bid. leveymg Sep 2012 #176
I support the right of all working people to strike for better conditions. Dyedinthewoolliberal Sep 2012 #177
100% support from me!! nt emmadoggy Sep 2012 #178
Workers unionize only when the boss is a BASTARD Warpy Sep 2012 #179
Would never happen in Right to Work South HockeyMom Sep 2012 #180
Damn straight I support them RegieRocker Sep 2012 #181
Solidarnosc KG Sep 2012 #182
They have my support! ebbie15644 Sep 2012 #183
Thank you for all your Smilo Sep 2012 #184
Their facebook page: HiPointDem Sep 2012 #185
I support the teachers 100% Chisox08 Sep 2012 #186
k&r Yes I support the teachers! airplaneman Sep 2012 #188
Power to the Peeps 12AngryBorneoWildmen Sep 2012 #189
I'm glad that Chicago teacher are showing the kind of cojones... gadjitfreek Sep 2012 #190
Solidarity !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Sep 2012 #191
Fight The Power!! nikto Sep 2012 #192
Solidarity! rateyes Sep 2012 #193
Labor! Yes! lindysalsagal Sep 2012 #194
I couldn't support them more. senseandsensibility Sep 2012 #195
SOLIDARITY! MrScorpio Sep 2012 #196
Absolutely support teachers! txwhitedove Sep 2012 #197
I wore red today! knitter4democracy Sep 2012 #198
Oh hell yes! Scuba Sep 2012 #200
+1 freshwest Sep 2012 #201
Go teachers. Go unions. many a good man Sep 2012 #202
I'm here to Caeser67 Sep 2012 #203
K&R. nt awoke_in_2003 Sep 2012 #204
No more privatization wilsonbooks Sep 2012 #205
solidarity! mike_c Sep 2012 #206
I definitely support Chicago teachers. rainy Sep 2012 #207
Sick to DEATH of scapegoating teachers!! . . .n/t annabanana Sep 2012 #208
picket line walkin' Union Nurse here n/t riverwalker Sep 2012 #209
Go CTU! erodriguez Sep 2012 #210
Union! nolabear Sep 2012 #211
solidarity demwing Sep 2012 #212
As an educator, I can really identify with this! trayfoot Sep 2012 #213
you have my 100% support ldf Sep 2012 #214
This is about job security for the hardest working people in our society YOHABLO Sep 2012 #215
I'm in dreamnightwind Sep 2012 #216
k and r for solidarity fishwax Sep 2012 #217
Full support here... if only we were allowed to unionize here in NC. n/t Anser Sep 2012 #218
100% SOLIDARITY! Agony Sep 2012 #219
Proud member of NEA and VEA and proud of our AFT breathern! muddrunner17 Sep 2012 #220
I hate media jerks that make teachers look bad by suggesting they make too much. LiberalFighter Sep 2012 #221
This teacher supports her brothers and sisters in Chicago! Stand strong! n/t RayOfHope Sep 2012 #222
Solidarity NNN0LHI Sep 2012 #223
I respect the teaching profession more than any other profession I can think of NNN0LHI Oct 2012 #301
In Solidarity. Betsy Ross Sep 2012 #224
Solidarity with Chicago teachers. pacalo Sep 2012 #225
Solidarity here roody Sep 2012 #226
I trust their judgment. nt valerief Sep 2012 #227
kick Angry Dragon Sep 2012 #229
I support most ALL teachers. But, I hope they can end this strike quickly. Auntie Bush Sep 2012 #230
Not about the pay. n/t YvonneCa Sep 2012 #239
I'm with you davidthegnome Sep 2012 #231
Solidarity.... xocet Sep 2012 #232
An injury to one is an injury to all! Citizen Worker Sep 2012 #233
raised hand bloomington-lib Sep 2012 #235
Solidarity! n/t dmr Sep 2012 #236
Hell, yeah! I support the teachers! Go Union! sueh Sep 2012 #237
I think it should be nation wide DonRedwood Sep 2012 #238
Solidarity!!! AnotherMother4Peace Sep 2012 #240
Solidarity with my fellow teachers. femmocrat Sep 2012 #241
Solidarity, from NYC. JaneyVee Sep 2012 #242
It's bad enough when the Repukes want to kill the unions. But Rahmbo has never been rhett o rick Sep 2012 #243
Damn right I support them Canuckistanian Sep 2012 #244
From a teacher in Northern Ontario, Canada! the devil Sep 2012 #245
Of course, I support them. nt Live and Learn Sep 2012 #246
As a resident of Chicago xloadiex Sep 2012 #247
I support the teachers 100% sonias Sep 2012 #248
I have a sister who's a teacher in Chicago. chalky Sep 2012 #249
100% slor Sep 2012 #250
K n r izzybeans Sep 2012 #251
Stand strong teachers we can do it Sep 2012 #252
kickski Snarkoleptic Sep 2012 #253
Absolutely! Kick for better schools! countryjake Sep 2012 #254
All my love and support... AnneD Sep 2012 #255
As If nvme Sep 2012 #257
Abso-fucking-lutely!! n/t eridani Sep 2012 #259
I support the Union bjosephs Sep 2012 #260
Total support here. Nt abelenkpe Sep 2012 #261
Teachers are my heroes. SunSeeker Sep 2012 #262
I'm With Them Bigredhunk Sep 2012 #263
K&R. Pro Union and Teachers. npk Sep 2012 #264
K&R teachers Phlem Sep 2012 #265
Absolutely! frogmarch Sep 2012 #266
I support labor. Period. Chan790 Sep 2012 #267
CFT local member here. diane in sf Sep 2012 #268
I support theteachers. nt. Rincewind Sep 2012 #269
I support all good teachers everywhere Le Taz Hot Sep 2012 #270
Solidarity now, Solidarity then, Solidarity forever!!! I support all union actions. Suji to Seoul Sep 2012 #271
Yep! rucky Sep 2012 #272
Solidarity. n/t DLevine Sep 2012 #273
kick and rec lame54 Sep 2012 #275
another k&r for support unapatriciated Sep 2012 #276
Chicago: the whole world's watching. n/t Smarmie Doofus Sep 2012 #279
Solidarity! jimlup Sep 2012 #281
Remember Oaxaca nt tama Sep 2012 #283
My Grandmother was teacher, My Husband was a teacher, my heart is for teachers!!! Heather MC Sep 2012 #285
Solidarity. n/t mattclearing Sep 2012 #286
I'm standing with the teachers! Loki Sep 2012 #287
i marched with the teachers union a couple of years ago.... madrchsod Sep 2012 #288
Teachers have awesome marches. proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #291
Agree especially with your tag line Tigress DEM Sep 2012 #289
I wish more politicians would pay attention to that. proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #292
I support unions 90-percent Sep 2012 #290
I support them. Puglover Sep 2012 #294
k&r-100% SUPPORT!!!!!!!! TheUnspeakable Sep 2012 #295
Roger that rock Sep 2012 #296
Yo 2ndAmForComputers Sep 2012 #299

no_hypocrisy

(46,080 posts)
234. Welcome to DU addltd
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 09:50 PM
Sep 2012

To respond, striking is never the first option; it's the last. When parties (labor and management) fail to agree on even the smallest point, the only tool that labor has is to strike. It forces management to return to the table and at least accept some terms that labor is trying get into a new agreement.

 

porphyrian

(18,530 posts)
2. Thank you, teachers, for your service.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:44 AM
Sep 2012

As I mentioned on another thread, it pisses me off that the only civil servants who get appreciated publicly are in the military or are first responders. Teachers make enormous sacrifices to help raise our children for us, then get beat up for it. Thank all of you for being crazy enough to do the right thing.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
7. Support!
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:46 AM
Sep 2012

My internet is out at the house and I am checking DU from my phone. I wanted reports on the strike. Danke!

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
15. CPS Parent Here...My daughter is upstairs getting ready for Strike Camp at the Neighborhood Boys and
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:50 AM
Sep 2012

Girls Club.

If we can be fully supportive of CTU - and we have skin in the game - so can you.

Support the Chicago Teachers Union - for better schools and a fair contract!

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
256. God bless you for your support.....
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:35 PM
Sep 2012

They are stripping the quality of the inner city schools to make a buck. Instead of raising their tax base, they are short changing the kids education. Schools in the suburbs have such "luxuries" as a library, school nurse, and counsulers. Inner city kids need it just as much, if not more.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
293. +1. Teachers and Parents are natural allies. Or OUGHT to be.
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 08:56 AM
Sep 2012

I often think that if we could reduce the system to it's essentials: the teacher, the parent and the child ... and let the important decision making stay within that constellation... we could get ourselves from under these hideously oversized, maddeningly politicized bureaucracies.

And in doing so... we we'd be able to offer a better product.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
16. Solidarity!.....I totally support unions and the Chicago teachers!
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:51 AM
Sep 2012

Rahm needs to have his ass kicked on this, and, I imagine, a few other things!

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
17. This teacher's union rep support the striking teachers of Chicago
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:51 AM
Sep 2012

Seriously, the issues seem incredible (as in, difficult-to-believe,) to this Norwegian teacher. It certainly makes our complaints pale in comparison.

You guys do fantastic jobs under incredibly difficult conditions, and you deserve better. If you don't get better, the children will certainly suffer because of it, so there is a trickle-down effect here that isn't fake. Class room limits, liveable wages, all your demands can be summed up as a demand to be respected as the professionals you are.

I support you.

jamesatemple

(342 posts)
113. A flat-out incredible video and a helluva great song!
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:31 AM
Sep 2012

Thanks for posting it, xchrom. The message of the song transcends borders as exemplified by the diverse group of musicians from all over the world. It is critically important for us to stand by the Chicago teachers in their fight for fairness. Maybe we could just skip the next generation of wars and spend the money on our educational system. Seems fair to this old man.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
26. If you have a job, you had better support these Teachers.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 09:04 AM
Sep 2012

If you want a job, you had better support these Teachers.

If you want a better job, you had better support these Teachers.

If you want to improve your job, you had better support these Teachers.

If you want education to get better, not worse, you had better support these Teachers.

SWTORFanatic

(385 posts)
28. Yes, and I wish schools and colleges (where I teach) in WI did the same - though for
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 09:08 AM
Sep 2012

different reasons of course!

qb

(5,924 posts)
36. I support public school teachers everywhere.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 09:13 AM
Sep 2012

All of the teachers I know are under-paid and over-worked, although they willingly put in extra hours and buy supplies out of their own pocket for their students.

mountain grammy

(26,619 posts)
37. I was a steward and local recording secretary for the OCAW
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 09:13 AM
Sep 2012

my husband was IAM. We both know the only reason we have been able to retire with any money in the bank is because of unions. The only hope for workers is the union. Which side are you on?

Tansy_Gold

(17,855 posts)
41. Chicago born and bred, suburban raised and public school educated -- 100% support
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 09:19 AM
Sep 2012

For all the teachers, 100% solidarity.

"Local #1" -- and it's all local.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
44. When I heard that one of the issues was
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 09:26 AM
Sep 2012

Last edited Tue Sep 11, 2012, 08:31 AM - Edit history (1)

getting textbooks in the classroom on time, and not 6 weeks later, I could not believe it.
And another issue, getting music and art back into the schools!
Class size!
It is about a LOT more than money.

Their proposed teacher evaluation does not sound good either. I agree with Ms. Lewis, evaluate the teachers on what they CAN control, not on factors outside of their control (such as poverty and violence, issues that are certainly at the schoolhouse door, and in the school).


Rahm, better re-think this one.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
284. Joey the Scar and his crew were bitching this morning about
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 07:13 AM
Sep 2012

how ...Oh those damn unions have no idea how they are being perceived by the larger General Public when they pull this nonsense over how they refuse the raise they got offered, and how that looks in a down economy...


That's when I came here and found out that I think they SHOULD be on strike (no AC? In a PUBLIC SCHOOL?)
WTF if that were "Mr. Mayor's" Publicly-Funded place of work, and the AC went out, you think that fucker would have shown up AT ALL till the problem was fixed? NO, and he would have read the riot act to the Maintenance Dept. for good measure I'M SURE.

The "General Public" that Joey is oh so worried about will see it that way, too, as soon as they find out how bad that working environment is for those people we like to call "invaluable" to our Society and Future.

Solidarity. Now and Forever.

(and fuck Joe. I hope that coroner starts telling tales, and Joey has to hire himself a lawyer.)

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
46. They need more schools and smaller class rooms. This is how we can make teaching
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 09:28 AM
Sep 2012

as effective as possible.

BlueMTexpat

(15,366 posts)
53. K&R!!!
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 09:40 AM
Sep 2012

Balance the budget by taxing those who are not paying their fair share, not on the backs of those who are charged with educating our children!

kemah

(276 posts)
62. As a retired teacher,
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 09:58 AM
Sep 2012

I do not get the idea of non teachers, people who have never taught a day in their life, have become experts in that field. That would be like being a certified mechanic but never having to touch a car.

me b zola

(19,053 posts)
68. I logged on to lend my support to striking Chicago teachers
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:12 AM
Sep 2012

I am with them in spirit and wish them the best of luck.

snappyturtle

(14,656 posts)
76. I taught in IL and this brings back memories of a strike for class size etc.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:23 AM
Sep 2012

I had a class (H.S. PE) at 7:00 AM with 103 students! I was the first and only girls' teacher assigned at that hour. We had other 'problems' as ridiculous and as dangerous to students. Sometimes striking is all that is left.

Turk 182

(88 posts)
81. 1000% support
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:26 AM
Sep 2012

This former teacher and Union VP fully supports the chicago teachers in their efforts to improve schools. The Union Makes Us Strong.

clydefrand

(4,325 posts)
84. Retired teacher says way to go!
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:34 AM
Sep 2012

Recently I (a retired teacher who worked for 32 years) was told by my repub brother-in-law that I have never worked in the REAL world and that I didn't know anything about the real world. That indeed broke my heart because of his nasty comments about our president and to me. He thinks teachers don't work in the real world? If it weren't for teachers, how many businesses would we have in the country? Of course I can go on and on for other reasons too.

Pat Riot

(446 posts)
91. Solidarity
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:43 AM
Sep 2012

Teachers will be portrayed as the bad guys, not caring about the kids, but not true. One of the hardest jobs in the world. If a union can not strike it has no power.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
97. Go Teachers Go!!
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:58 AM
Sep 2012

Tell Rahm to fold up his charter school agenda into lots of sharp little corners and sit on it!!

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
105. GO TEACHERS!!!
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:05 AM
Sep 2012

My wife is a teacher and has been lead negotiator for her union. Sometimes it comes down to a strike to make a point. It's unfortunate, AND avoidable when reason and common sense prevail.

 

ann---

(1,933 posts)
106. As a former public school
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:08 AM
Sep 2012

employee and proud union member, I KNOW how hard teachers work and they would not go on strike unless they were not given the bare necessities to do their job. That would include reasonable pay. Although, I believe this strike is more about other issues which wouldn't involve too much money from the budget.

catbyte

(34,372 posts)
107. This proud MEA/NEA member stands in solidarity with my Chicago brothers & sisters
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:09 AM
Sep 2012




Diane
Anishinaabe in MI & mom to Taz, Nigel, and baby brother Sammy, members of Dogs Against Romney, Cat Division
"Dogs Aren’t Luggage--HISS!”

davsand

(13,421 posts)
120. I have former students on that line today. I am very proud of them.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:51 AM
Sep 2012

Wearing my red today in support and solidarity!



Laura

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
121. Adding my voice/vote/support
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:56 AM
Sep 2012

For teachers. Education is one of the single most important things we can do. Give teachers the resources to do it and the compensation to live through it!

This post is made in honor of Jack (Jolly) Rogers - a 7th grade Social Studies teacher who gave a damn. I don't know where you are now, Mr. Rogers but you made a difference.

Beringia

(4,316 posts)
123. I support
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:58 AM
Sep 2012

It is great they are standing up for themselves and the students. I heard on the news last night that they badly need social workers. Each social worker on staff now has 1000 students per social worker.

Vidar

(18,335 posts)
125. I always support teachers (used to be one), especially now when the only unions who still fight are
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 12:02 PM
Sep 2012

nurses and the teachers.

 

craigmatic

(4,510 posts)
134. Their list of demands seems pretty reasonable. This should be over in a week or 2 because it's not
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:03 PM
Sep 2012

really about money. My only beef with teachers' unions is that they keep older teachers on the job after they've already put all their time in when we younger people need to get our time in too. I know there are great older teacher but give us younger ones our chance too.

 

craigmatic

(4,510 posts)
187. I agree with that in principle but in practice it only adds to the
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:00 PM
Sep 2012

economic hard times we've been having lately. It's hard to find a good teaching job trust me I've looked. They say there's hundreds of applicants to one opening. All I'm saying is that if someone can retire they should so someone else can have a turn. That's only fair.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
258. Well, when we have Medicare for all, that might happen
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:51 PM
Sep 2012

I don't disagree with you, I'd like to 'get out of the way' for you younger folks, but that danged healthcare thing keeps me tethered.

 

tama

(9,137 posts)
282. It's about much more than money
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 07:09 AM
Sep 2012

It's about communities saying no to the neoliberal ideology and corporate model control mania. 99% vs 1%. It's not about money, it's a political strike. Those tend not to be resolved easily, but rather escalate. Remember Oaxaca.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
135. It's time for Corporate Democrats like Rahm Emmanuel to put up or shut up!
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:11 PM
Sep 2012

If they don't support organized labor, they should get out of the Democratic Party and join their true brethren in the Reagan-Bush-Romney dark castle!

And a word to organized labor: Did you know that virtually ALL voting machines in the U.S. are run on 'TRADE SECRET' code--code that the public is forbidden to review--some 70% of it owned and controlled by one, private, far rightwing-connected corporation (ES&S, which bought out Diebold)? Did you know that half the states do NO AUDIT of this so-called vote counting AT ALL, and that the others do only a miserably inadequate 1% audit?

Think about it.

Response to MineralMan (Reply #137)

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
142. 1976 El Rancho Unified School District...CTA...NEA...EREA...CFT ... I stand with Chicago Teachers
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 01:47 PM
Sep 2012

We were one of the first...haven't kept up on it, but surely your issues are worse than ours. We just wanted a pay increase.

"Based upon a more compelling factual situation because
of the duration of the strike and more clearly definable damages,
the El Rancho Unified School District in Pico Rivera,
California recently filed a lawsuit against the National Education
Association, the California Teachers Association, the El
Rancho Education Association, the California Federation of
Teachers, and the El Rancho Federation of Teachers for damages
resulting from a 25 day strike in 1976.5 The district based
its lawsuit on the fact that the above-mentioned employee organizations
and unions induced the employees of the district
to breach their contract."

http://digitalcommons.law.scu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2187&context=lawreview

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
150. Solidarity!!!
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:47 PM
Sep 2012

The 30 year bi-partisan attack on Organized LABOR must end.

It is not possible to support "Free Trade" and Organized LABOR at the same time.
The two positions are mutually exclusive.

jpbollma

(552 posts)
153. 30 year?
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:01 PM
Sep 2012

Democrats killed the unions right along with Republicans when they passed Taft-Hartley! I questioned this particular strike in earlier threads but after doing research of my own as well as reading this link and those provided by other DUers I can say without hesitating, I SUPPORT this strike!

hunter

(38,310 posts)
152. I do.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 02:58 PM
Sep 2012

I taught in big city schools. I was a union member.

Teachers and their students deserve more.

If this nation had any sense we'd flip the Defense budget with the Education budget.

Wouldn't it be delightful hearing wealthy people scream that their property taxes were paying for useless Aircraft carriers and the 16 million dollar salaries of defense contractors?

YvonneCa

(10,117 posts)
157. I absolutely support them. This is not about money/salary. It is about...
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:10 PM
Sep 2012

...having a voice in the changes education reform is bringing to public schools. Despite the spin to the contrary, most teachers are caring, wonderful, hard-working (past contract hours on their own) people.

Much of education reform seeks to undermine what they do and threatens the future of public schools. Public school teachers know this. They are doing their best to educate the general public on this issue.

We should be THANKING them, not attacking them.

ComtesseDeSpair

(545 posts)
160. 100% Solidarity with Teachers!
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 03:19 PM
Sep 2012

I live a block away from a school here in Chicago and could hear the chanting, cheering, and (hearteningly) beeps coming from passing cars when I started work in my home office this morning. I made a point to take the dogs past the school on their walk so I could tell the teachers to keep fighting the good fight, and it was nice to see the passing city vehicles (garbage truck, police, and water management) all honked and received abundant cheers from the teachers. Workers Unite!

Teamster Jeff

(1,598 posts)
173. Union Yes!
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:56 PM
Sep 2012

Saw some of you out there today on 51st/State - 51st/ Cottage Grove and on 47th St. I laid on the air horn of the big truck and saw lots of smiling faces. Hang tough. My daughter graduates next year with her teaching degree and I let her know that she will benefit because of the stand that you are taking.

Teamsters Chicago Local 705

cp

(6,623 posts)
174. Stay strong, teachers! We love you!
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 04:59 PM
Sep 2012

Lots of friends who teach, and it's a hard job with lots of hours. Lots of rewards from kids, sure, but damn hard. (Like to see a CEO last a day in a classroom). Teachers have to do SO much more than ever before.
We Wisconsiners stand with you, sisters and brothers.
Courage!

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
179. Workers unionize only when the boss is a BASTARD
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 05:21 PM
Sep 2012

and they only strike when that BASTARD refuses to negotiate!

Solidarity forever!

gadjitfreek

(399 posts)
190. I'm glad that Chicago teacher are showing the kind of cojones...
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:20 PM
Sep 2012

...that I only dream of seeing here in NY with draconian new teacher evaluation measures, increasing class size, decreasing funding and so on. I have been working without a contract for the last two years with no prospect of a contract anywhere in the future. My union is so weak that we show up in union shirts on Fridays but that's the extent of it. Every contract is weaker and worse than the one before it. We are among the lowest paid teachers in the region but we are at the top of the charts when it comes to our graduation and state test scores. Go, Chicago! Start a revolution where teachers take back the schools from the politicians and big-money people.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
192. Fight The Power!!
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 06:21 PM
Sep 2012

Fight the corrupt powers-that-be.

And Rahm Emanuel is a GOP toad masquerading as a Democrat.

lindysalsagal

(20,666 posts)
194. Labor! Yes!
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 07:19 PM
Sep 2012

In my state, NY, they can jail us, and one of us was jailed in the 70's. I hope they're all ok when this is over.

ldf

(2,964 posts)
214. you have my 100% support
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:13 PM
Sep 2012

i personally think that most of the labor vs management confrontations could be solved long before strikes ever come into the picture.

but management backs the unions into the corner, knowing the strike will make labor look vindictive, greedy, and unwilling to compromise. which is EXACTLY what management wants americans to think about ANY union.

don't give in, CTU!

Agony

(2,605 posts)
219. 100% SOLIDARITY!
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:31 PM
Sep 2012

to effing hell with:

Rahmyass
Arneyass
neoliberals and education privateers in general

period

Romneyass, Ryanass and neocons are much worse so to fucking hell with them too.

Go Chicago Teachers!

LiberalFighter

(50,887 posts)
221. I hate media jerks that make teachers look bad by suggesting they make too much.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:35 PM
Sep 2012

Someone should turn it back on the media.

Local news anchor nationwide is $75k, weathercaster is $62k. Why should they get paid more than teachers?

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
301. I respect the teaching profession more than any other profession I can think of
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 08:30 AM
Oct 2012

Dang right, SOLIDARITY!

I am with you now and forever!

Don

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
230. I support most ALL teachers. But, I hope they can end this strike quickly.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 09:11 PM
Sep 2012

Get the pay they want and need and then back to work with their students.

xocet

(3,871 posts)
232. Solidarity....
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 09:20 PM
Sep 2012

These seem to be quite reasonable concerns:

Press Release: CPS Fails To Negotiate Fair Contract To Prevent First Strike In 25 Years

09/09/2012

...

“Recognizing the Board’s fiscal woes, we are not far apart on compensation. However, we are apart on benefits. We want to maintain the existing health benefits.

“Another concern is evaluation procedures. After the initial phase-in of the new evaluation system it could result in 6,000 teachers (or nearly 30 percent of our members) being discharged within one or two years. This is unacceptable. We are also concerned that too much of the new evaluations will be based on students’ standardized test scores. This is no way to measure the effectiveness of an educator. Further there are too many factors beyond our control which impact how well some students perform on standardized tests such as poverty, exposure to violence, homelessness, hunger and other social issues beyond our control.

“We want job security. Despite a new curriculum and new, stringent evaluation system, CPS proposes no increase (or even decreases) in teacher training. This is notable because our Union through our Quest Center is at the forefront teacher professional development in Illinois. We have been lauded by the District and our colleagues across the country for our extensive teacher training programs that helped emerging teachers strengthen their craft and increased the number of nationally board certified educators.

“We are demanding a reasonable timetable for the installation of air-conditioning in student classrooms--a sweltering, 98-degree classroom is not a productive learning environment for children. This type of environment is unacceptable for our members and all school personnel. A lack of climate control is unacceptable to our parents.

...


http://www.ctunet.com/blog/cps-fails-to-negotiate-fair-contract-to-prevent-first-labor-strike-in-25-years
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
243. It's bad enough when the Repukes want to kill the unions. But Rahmbo has never been
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:22 PM
Sep 2012

for the working class.

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
244. Damn right I support them
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:23 PM
Sep 2012

This isn't about "union greed"

It's about forcing a local government to live up to their commitments to a free and fair PUBLIC education.

the devil

(42 posts)
245. From a teacher in Northern Ontario, Canada!
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:25 PM
Sep 2012

You've got our support! Fight the good fight, and do it for the children!

chalky

(3,297 posts)
249. I have a sister who's a teacher in Chicago.
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 10:40 PM
Sep 2012

She's a special needs teacher. She's frustrated about how they marginalize the special needs students. This kick is for her.

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
255. All my love and support...
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:25 PM
Sep 2012

From a professional colleague in another state. We are sending prayers of support your way. We know the media distorts your intentions and stirs up hate directed toward you, but we know the truth. Hang tough!!!!!!!


Edited to add....I am wearing red tomorrow in support.

nvme

(860 posts)
257. As If
Mon Sep 10, 2012, 11:43 PM
Sep 2012

Naturally when some of the lowest paid (noble) professionals entrusted not to make iphones or furniture but help expand our children's ask for a little better life, Romney is there to castigate and criticize your contstitional right to protest assemble and collectively bargain. Ask the people at Kaybee toys how good Romney is.

bjosephs

(1 post)
260. I support the Union
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 12:15 AM
Sep 2012

Ryan, Emanuel....what a pair.... I've been a teacher for 25 years in a private school without a union...my wife had a union in LA long before me. She was much more secure and much happier. Each year I'd worry, would I get a new contract.... We need more unions, not less.... Go Chicago Teachers!

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
267. I support labor. Period.
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 01:33 AM
Sep 2012

I don't think anti-labor partisans have any place in the Democratic Party. They can leave and they won't be missed.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
288. i marched with the teachers union a couple of years ago....
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 08:13 AM
Sep 2012

they totally rocked springfield il because the music teachers brought drums. 15,000+ union members from across illinois marching to the drums.

Tigress DEM

(7,887 posts)
289. Agree especially with your tag line
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 08:30 AM
Sep 2012

"You don’t improve education by demoralizing the people who have to do the work every day.” -Diane Ravitch

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
290. I support unions
Tue Sep 11, 2012, 08:32 AM
Sep 2012

Because we need a strong middle class and a standard of living for all of us that affords the opportunity for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Hard to achieve if we're all being beaten down into corporate drones without basic human rights in our modern American totalitarian workplace!

-90% Jimmy

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