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Sun Mar 15, 2020, 04:21 PM

Trump claims Biden and swine flu still killing people

I posted Friday during Trumpís Rose Garden farce that Trump had deflected the question about why he dismantled the pandemic team to claim that the swine flu, with Biden heading the task force, had caused 14,000 deaths. At the time, there was a 17 hour old Trump tweet that said Bidenís mismanagement had caused the death of 12,000.
He just put up a tweet this afternoon that says 17,000 died of the swine flu.
How many more will Trumpís time machine kill in the coming days?

btw, swine flu actually killed about 12,400.

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SCantiGOP Mar 2020 OP
Under The Radar Mar 2020 #1
SCantiGOP Mar 2020 #2
brewens Mar 2020 #3
SCantiGOP Mar 2020 #4
brewens Mar 2020 #6
pat_k Mar 2020 #5

Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 04:23 PM

1. 12,400 in the United States?

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Response to Under The Radar (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 04:27 PM

2. Yes

It was a variant of the flu that was not adequately covered by that yearís vaccine.
The flu normally kills about 25,000 Americans a year.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 04:38 PM

3. That's a really low death rate because 61 million people got the swine flu. n/t

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Response to brewens (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 04:51 PM

4. I just googled it at CDC site

Your numbers are right. Over 60 million got it and 12,000+ died in the US. The CDC estimate was that 150,000-575,000 died worldwide.
As with most Trump delusions, truth is the opposite of what he is now inventing. The 2009 swine flu response by the US (where the virus originated) is considered an example of a proper and life-saving response by government. Obama declared a national health emergency around the time of the first death, weeks before WHO declared it a worldwide pandemic.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 07:12 PM

6. I'd say if the devil offered Trump a deal for that death rate, he'd better take it. n/t

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Response to SCantiGOP (Original post)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 05:23 PM

5. Some fact checking on response

Given the Influenza A (H1N1) is now one of several endemic variations of seasonal flu, it is still killing people.

However, it has a case fatality rate lower than many typical seasonal flu's.

The number of deaths is mixed in with reports of deaths related to other seasonal flu's.

You know, a rate lower than Trump repeatedly dismissed as inconsequential with his absurd comparisons of COVID-19 to flu.

Trump's assinine tweet and fact checking on Obama admin's response.

....The USA was never set up for this, just look at the catastrophe of the H1N1 Swine Flu (Biden in charge, 17,000 people lost, very late response time), but it soon will be. Great decision to close our China, and other, borders early. Saved many lives!


While that death toll may sound high, itís over an entire year and, in fact, ended up being far lower than was initially expected. The strain of influenza also turned out to have a case fatality rate of just 0.02% ó well below even many typical seasonal influenzas.

Contrary to Trumpís suggestion that the Obama administration did ďnothing,Ē officials declared a public health emergency early in the H1N1 outbreak, secured funding from Congress and ultimately declared a national emergency, as weíll explain below.

On top of that, the CDC sequenced the new virus, created testing kits, and the Food and Drug Administration approved multiple vaccines, among other actions.

Rep. Michael Burgess, a Republican from Texas, praised the CDC at a House hearing in 2016 for quickly developing a vaccine for the swine flu in about six months ó in time for the start of the school year in September 2009. ďSo thatís a 6-month time frame if Iím doing my math correctly that you were able to identify the genetic sequence of the virus, reverse engineer a vaccine, test it, assure its safety and efficacy, and get it to school teachers on the second week of school. Thatís pretty impressive,Ē he said.

On April 15, 2009, the first infection was identified in California, according to the CDC, and less than two weeks later, on April 26, 2009, the Obama administration declared a public health emergency. The day before, on April 25, the World Health Organization had declared a public health emergency.

Dr. Richard Besser, then-acting director of the CDC, confirmed to the press on the day of the U.S. declaration that there were 20 cases of H1N1 in the U.S., and that ďall of the individuals in this country who have been identified as cases have recovered.Ē


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https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/trumps-h1n1-swine-flu-pandemic-spin/

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