Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:55 AM
evertonfc (1,713 posts)
Riddle me this
Why does this virus seem to be spreading so fast in first world countries? You don't hear as much about Latin America
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evertonfc | Mar 2020 | OP |
intrepidity | Mar 2020 | #1 | |
SCantiGOP | Mar 2020 | #2 | |
Bernardo de La Paz | Mar 2020 | #3 | |
defacto7 | Mar 2020 | #4 | |
MineralMan | Mar 2020 | #5 | |
dewsgirl | Mar 2020 | #6 | |
stillcool | Mar 2020 | #7 | |
OnDoutside | Mar 2020 | #8 | |
defacto7 | Mar 2020 | #10 | |
OnDoutside | Mar 2020 | #12 | |
dalton99a | Mar 2020 | #13 | |
Brainfodder | Mar 2020 | #9 | |
defacto7 | Mar 2020 | #11 |
Response to evertonfc (Original post)
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:59 AM
intrepidity (2,798 posts)
1. It will nt
Response to evertonfc (Original post)
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:59 AM
SCantiGOP (11,008 posts)
2. they probably have very limited testing ability
Response to evertonfc (Original post)
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:59 AM
Bernardo de La Paz (36,784 posts)
3. Less international travel.
Note: Closing borders only works if done very early AND only with strenuous followup on all cases including detailed and comprehensive contact checks. |
Response to evertonfc (Original post)
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:01 PM
defacto7 (13,485 posts)
4. They probably don't have the resources or political will
to deal with it. My speculation.
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Response to evertonfc (Original post)
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:01 PM
MineralMan (135,830 posts)
5. You don't hear because no attention is being paid to those countries.
You will hear, though. Iran, apparently, is having a very tough time with COVID-19,
It could be having a disastrous effect in some countries, but without any news coverage at all. We'll see. |
Response to evertonfc (Original post)
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:02 PM
dewsgirl (14,411 posts)
6. If I have learned one thing from this mess 90 percent
of these governments are not honest, some more so, some less so. The movie Contagion may have got a lot of things right, down to the Forsythia "cure"=Colloidal Silver. They missed all the deception amongst world governments.
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Response to evertonfc (Original post)
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:03 PM
stillcool (30,754 posts)
7. hopefully, it won't be their turn...
although, I'm not so sure what constitutes a first world country.
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 |
Response to evertonfc (Original post)
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:07 PM
OnDoutside (16,239 posts)
8. It was the Northern Italy spread that is the most puzzling. There's a
suggestion that because that area has a huge textile industry, and well in excess of 100,000 Chinese workers in this area of Italy, workers brought it back with them after Christmas and up to the Chinese New Year.
There is an excellent article in the New Yorker from 2 years ago, about the tension between locals and the Chinese immigrants. I'll try find and add it here. |
Response to OnDoutside (Reply #8)
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:14 PM
defacto7 (13,485 posts)
10. If that's true, it just is what it is. But I hope it doesn't become
just another way to blame "the Chinese". It would be more likely one of the many unfortunate situations that was unavoidable.
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Response to defacto7 (Reply #10)
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:28 PM
OnDoutside (16,239 posts)
12. Well said. This New Yorker piece is the background to those Chinese workers being in the Milan area
Italy has had a long, unhealthy link to racism & fascism (Google Lazio & fascism)
The first significant wave of Chinese immigrants arrived in the industrial zone around Prato, a city fifteen miles northwest of Florence, in the nineteen-nineties. Nearly all of them came from Wenzhou, a port city south of Shanghai. For the Chinese, the culture shock was more modest than one might have expected. “The Italians were friendly,” one early arrival remembered. “Like the Chinese, they called one another Uncle. They liked family.” In Tuscany, business life revolved around small, interconnected firms, just as it did in Wenzhou, a city so resolutely entrepreneurial that it had resisted Mao’s collectivization campaign. The Prato area was a hub for mills and workshops, some of which made clothes and leather goods for the great fashion houses. If you were willing to be paid off the books, and by the piece, Prato offered plenty of opportunities. Many Wenzhouans found jobs there. “The Italians, being canny, would subcontract out their work to the Chinese,” Don Giovanni Momigli, a priest whose parish, near Prato, included an early influx of Chinese, told me. “Then they were surprised when the Chinese began to do the work on their own.” Well worth reading the full article. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/04/16/the-chinese-workers-who-assemble-designer-bags-in-tuscany |
Response to evertonfc (Original post)
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:12 PM
Brainfodder (3,661 posts)
9. Can't report what you can't confirm 100% yet, maybe?
Around 200 countries, how many have testing at all, let alone readiness?
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